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    Hi all,

    I am wondering if some of you know any possibility if someone wants to study 2 more yrs after a 3yrs BSc?
    Because, the thing is, in countries like France, Germany or Switzerland Masters last for 2 yrs. But in the UK, all I can find are 1yr MSc...My first question would be, why only one year? Is it because the Masters in the UK last from september to september, with nearly no brakes? ( where in other countries, you ve got summer holidays etc) Secondly, as I really want to do 2 more years, what would you suggest, besides doing two different Master? If there are any possibilities..

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    Well I am doing my masters in Paris or Geneva and they are two years. Maybe look into studying abroad? Many courses are completely in English.

    Also why do you want to do a two year masters ?
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    What's wrong with a one year course?

    And we don't have any breaks at all!

    I don't know enough about the other systems, but there are probably some significant differences in requirements to get on, level of teaching, content, or something.
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    If you're that keen to do two years, you can do what I'm doing and study part-time. Or do MPhil courses, which are two years (or at least they are at Oxford!) :yes:
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    (Original post by battosai)
    Hi all,

    I am wondering if some of you know any possibility if someone wants to study 2 more yrs after a 3yrs BSc?
    Because, the thing is, in countries like France, Germany or Switzerland Masters last for 2 yrs. But in the UK, all I can find are 1yr MSc...My first question would be, why only one year? Is it because the Masters in the UK last from september to september, with nearly no brakes? ( where in other countries, you ve got summer holidays etc) Secondly, as I really want to do 2 more years, what would you suggest, besides doing two different Master? If there are any possibilities..

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    I've found some UK unis do 2 year MSc courses known as Euromasters based (suprisingly) on the European version of masters.
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    i assume you meant breaks....not brakes.


    there are a lot of Masters programs that last for two (MBA, or Masters' in Public Policy--for example, at Brown, Princeton or the Harvard Kennedy School). Also, some universities offer two year programs--a year in the states and a year in the UK. do some research.


    Why is it so important that your program is for two years? As someone who's nearly completed an MSc, the program's content should exceed the length as the deciding factor.

    I would not recommend two masters. For most people, one is enough. And it really does not increase your employment prospects.

    (Original post by battosai)
    Hi all,

    I am wondering if some of you know any possibility if someone wants to study 2 more yrs after a 3yrs BSc?
    Because, the thing is, in countries like France, Germany or Switzerland Masters last for 2 yrs. But in the UK, all I can find are 1yr MSc...My first question would be, why only one year? Is it because the Masters in the UK last from september to september, with nearly no brakes? ( where in other countries, you ve got summer holidays etc) Secondly, as I really want to do 2 more years, what would you suggest, besides doing two different Master? If there are any possibilities..

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    The masters in Speech and Language Therapy can be two years. But you might not want to do that subject
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    (Original post by battosai)
    Hi all,

    I am wondering if some of you know any possibility if someone wants to study 2 more yrs after a 3yrs BSc?
    Because, the thing is, in countries like France, Germany or Switzerland Masters last for 2 yrs. But in the UK, all I can find are 1yr MSc...My first question would be, why only one year? Is it because the Masters in the UK last from september to september, with nearly no brakes? ( where in other countries, you ve got summer holidays etc) Secondly, as I really want to do 2 more years, what would you suggest, besides doing two different Master? If there are any possibilities..

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    In continental Europe Master degree are two years long because you have mandatory placement to do, foreign language courses and other unrelated to your major modules (and in France the Bachelor/Master system don't really fit if you go to Grande Ecole as the Master last 3 years after two years "undergraduate"). In the end academic content will be nearly the same.

    For the Holidays you won't have one as you'll probably be doing your placement.
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    why is it imperative that the program is for two years? based on what you've written, you sound unsure about what it is that you'd like to study. i can't see how vacations are wholly relevant or a deciding factor in the process of choosing a Masters program. are you a career student?

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    (Original post by battosai)
    Hi all,

    I am wondering if some of you know any possibility if someone wants to study 2 more yrs after a 3yrs BSc?
    Because, the thing is, in countries like France, Germany or Switzerland Masters last for 2 yrs. But in the UK, all I can find are 1yr MSc...My first question would be, why only one year? Is it because the Masters in the UK last from september to september, with nearly no brakes? ( where in other countries, you ve got summer holidays etc) Secondly, as I really want to do 2 more years, what would you suggest, besides doing two different Master? If there are any possibilities..

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    @beefmaster: I actually applied for HEC in Switzerland and this is a 2yrs program. But the thing is, I'd like to go to London (UK, but Londo preferably) for my master because I already spent 6mths there, and just loved it ( i am from luxembourg)
    @ice queen: Because, here where I live, having 5 yrs of studies is better than 4. Eventhough, you might (in the UK) do in one year what others do in 2 yrs. I know it s stupid..
    @the_lonely_goatherd: No I want to study FT but this idea crossed my mind though..
    @foxxy_cleopatra: I did my research, but all the school I am applying at don't offer this kind of thing.. (BPP, Glasgow, Westminster, City,..)
    @derp: not really my topic, as I am applying for a MSc in Finance/investment
    @lysFromParis: I am aware of these internships they do in other countries, but I thought that maybe there was a way to combine studies/internship in the UK
    @Foxxy: I am not unsure, I know what I want to study as well as what I'd like to do my career in. But as said the whole idea would be to 2 more years, simply because where I live they look on how many yrs you ve studied.. Not sure that they are always aware of the differences in the UK system. And I NEVER said i'd consider vacations as being a relevant factor


    Thx a lot for your answers so far!!
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    (Original post by battosai)
    @beefmaster: I actually applied for HEC in Switzerland and this is a 2yrs program. But the thing is, I'd like to go to London (UK, but Londo preferably) for my master because I already spent 6mths there, and just loved it ( i am from luxembourg)
    @ice queen: Because, here where I live, having 5 yrs of studies is better than 4. Eventhough, you might (in the UK) do in one year what others do in 2 yrs. I know it s stupid..
    @the_lonely_goatherd: No I want to study FT but this idea crossed my mind though..
    @foxxy_cleopatra: I did my research, but all the school I am applying at don't offer this kind of thing.. (BPP, Glasgow, Westminster, City,..)
    @derp: not really my topic, as I am applying for a MSc in Finance/investment
    @lysFromParis: I am aware of these internships they do in other countries, but I thought that maybe there was a way to combine studies/internship in the UK
    @Foxxy: I am not unsure, I know what I want to study as well as what I'd like to do my career in. But as said the whole idea would be to 2 more years, simply because where I live they look on how many yrs you ve studied.. Not sure that they are always aware of the differences in the UK system. And I NEVER said i'd consider vacations as being a relevant factor


    Thx a lot for your answers so far!!
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    I don't know what you're speciality is but you have ESCP in London which is highly ranked by the financial time. You have campuses in Paris, London, Madrid and maybe an other place but I don't recall. I'm not sure you could do the two years at the same campus (my girlfriend got accepted there with a scholarship so if you have question about admission process you can ask).

    http://www.escpeurope.eu/
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    I know ESCP and the only Master I'd be intersted in, is one of their Specialised Master, and here again you have to do 5yrs before taking such a Master .. according to their entry requirements.
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    (Original post by battosai)
    I know ESCP and the only Master I'd be intersted in, is one of their Specialised Master, and here again you have to do 5yrs before taking such a Master .. according to their entry requirements.
    Sorry it was my only idea .

    If I understand correctly you're from continental Europe as I am, and you are worried about carreer/future study after a master degree in UK ? Maybe try to contact a uni/company in your home country and ask what they think about UK 1 year master.
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    Just do 2 separate Masters (if you can afford it) in the UK then. You think 1 Year Masters is not enough to get you a job in your country and leave you unable to compete with other EU graduates? I don't think 4 years of BSc and Masters will cause many problems, that is why a lot of people with 3+1 Year Masters have no problems finding jobs throughout Europe. You can always do an Erasmus Mundus Masters, usually they last 2 years, you can choose to do 1 Year in the UK and then you must spend the rest of your time in another EU country, the only problem is that there are not many UK universities or variety of courses for such degrees but still, you might get lucky.
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    @Lyn well you'r right, I am a bit worried. I don't pretend that sbd with 5yrs of uni would have more skills than sbd with 4yrs, but..It might count for the HR in the companies.. I am doing an internship at the moment, I ll try to see what the HR think about it, and will keep you posted!
    @cybergrad well, again I thought about it, but the problem with the topic I'll study is that most Master have similar lectures, so paying twice for the same thing... I might consider sth to deepen one topic but well..
    I dono the point of view of UK companies about ppl having 4 yrs of studies though?
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    I dono the point of view of UK companies about ppl having 4 yrs of studies though?
    4 Year of studies should do just fine for UK employers, they have no problem with it because it tends to be the standard, even 3 Year degrees are no problem but there is fierce competition for jobs. A Masters degree helps you stand out from the crowd, and the big companies prefer it. Many multinational companies also have no problem with 4 years of studies because they know that this is the standard for UK related degrees (3+1 Masters or 4 Year MSci, MEng etc etc), for example in France some big companies ask for 5 Year degree but if you tell them that you have a degree from abroad with a total 4 Years of studies (Masters included) this is not a problem, but like in Britain if you have already completed an internship this helps a lot.
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    (Original post by cybergrad)
    4 Year of studies should do just fine for UK employers, they have no problem with it because it tends to be the standard, even 3 Year degrees are no problem but there is fierce competition for jobs. A Masters degree helps you stand out from the crowd, and the big companies prefer it. Many multinational companies also have no problem with 4 years of studies because they know that this is the standard for UK related degrees (3+1 Masters or 4 Year MSci, MEng etc etc), for example in France some big companies ask for 5 Year degree but if you tell them that you have a degree from abroad with a total 4 Years of studies (Masters included) this is not a problem, but like in Britain if you have already completed an internship this helps a lot.
    Hmm ok I see what you mean. Well this is the thing I am not sure about you know, if for example french companies would be fine with the fact that someone has "only" 4 yrs and not 5.
    But of course, what I didn't "really" consider that much so far, is working abroad..i.e. in the UK. Not sure about the salaries there for freshly graduates, but I am sure my big advantage will be the languages ( as I speak 5). I've always been told this would be a major advantage if I'd work abroad.. Plus I am already doing a 6mths internship at the moment, and I might do a summer internship this year .
    But I admit that when you say "4yrs for UK companies is standard" than I might really consider the idea of working there..
    Again, thanks for your advices guys
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    (Original post by battosai)
    Hmm ok I see what you mean. Well this is the thing I am not sure about you know, if for example french companies would be fine with the fact that someone has "only" 4 yrs and not 5.
    But of course, what I didn't "really" consider that much so far, is working abroad..i.e. in the UK. Not sure about the salaries there for freshly graduates, but I am sure my big advantage will be the languages ( as I speak 5). I've always been told this would be a major advantage if I'd work abroad.. Plus I am already doing a 6mths internship at the moment, and I might do a summer internship this year .
    But I admit that when you say "4yrs for UK companies is standard" than I might really consider the idea of working there..
    Again, thanks for your advices guys
    Most likely the company that you will work for will be a multinational with many offices in different countries. When you join a graduate training scheme after completion you can always ask to be transferred to another country if you wish, many employees do this and the companies have no problem with it. After completion and with all the acquired experience, one year difference in your total time of studies will become irrelevant to your career prospects regardless of country.
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    Okay so I just spoke with one of the Head here and his point of view was: First you have to bear in mind that every recruiter is different. But for him, having a one or 2 yr master wouldn't mind, as long as it is from a good school. If one can do it one year, than he should go for it. Because at the end, of course the more experience you gain, the better you are...

    That's basically what he said. Now I'm affraid that choosing BPP Business School as first option might be penalising as it is as famous as the BPP Law School nor is it ranked anywhere..
 
 
 

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