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    The car was restored in the late 80s/90s and had a full chassis up rebuild. It then only did 5000 miles since then when we got it. We have put about 3000 miles on it in 5 years.

    Looking forward to seeing you in July!

    The V12 does sound lovely, do you have the fish tail exhaust then? There is nothing wrong with the S3 at all, it just depends on what you want, a very comfortable and good looking GT or a good looking sports car! The S3 is still very capable, but the 4.2 is faster because it is lighter, not that you would be able to tell other than on a track!

    The interior was modified in the restoration so it had red piping around the seats and the leather was renewed, carpets changed etc. The car has uprated suspension as it uses Koni springs and dampers (very good, really tightens the car up) and has 6 pot front callipers and 4 pot rears so it stops too! The engine was rebuilt and the gearbox was also renewed. So it is basically a new car. It is running on Vredestein classic tyres now rather than the original Dunlop Sports which were worn out and the sidewalls were quite soft. The Vredesteins are much better and the JEC offers discount!

    The spoked wheels were also new in the rebuild, I believe they are Italian and quite a famous manufacturer beginning with B but I can't remember who! I don't think they are cheap! lol!

    What are the junks? Anything special or are they scrap yard material? Might be worth seeing if there is a owners club if you don't want em!

    Must be awesome to have a barn to store all those cars, would love to be able to do that!

    Amazing your aunt is giving them away the cars for free! There is probably at least £60k at least of cars just in the Mk.II and E-Type alone!

    All the best,

    Graham
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    (Original post by gbduo)
    The car was restored in the late 80s/90s and had a full chassis up rebuild. It then only did 5000 miles since then when we got it. We have put about 3000 miles on it in 5 years.

    Looking forward to seeing you in July!
    Also doesn't see a lot of use. Presumably it's a summer only car?


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    The V12 does sound lovely, do you have the fish tail exhaust then? There is nothing wrong with the S3 at all, it just depends on what you want, a very comfortable and good looking GT or a good looking sports car! The S3 is still very capable, but the 4.2 is faster because it is lighter, not that you would be able to tell other than on a track!
    Am not particularly concerned about the speed they can go.... rather have leisurely drives with it than go for sprints.

    Definitely not going to a track with it.

    Yes the Series 3 does have the fish tail exhaust, the only thing amiss with the Series 3 is it just doesn't have the good looks of a Series 1, the bumper somewhat spoils the looks of it and somehow or rather the lines seem rather off.

    The Series 1, once done up.... I think my wife will kill me if she found out I'm bringing it for laps around a track

    (Original post by gbduo)

    The interior was modified in the restoration so it had red piping around the seats and the leather was renewed, carpets changed etc. The car has uprated suspension as it uses Koni springs and dampers (very good, really tightens the car up) and has 6 pot front callipers and 4 pot rears so it stops too! The engine was rebuilt and the gearbox was also renewed. So it is basically a new car. It is running on Vredestein classic tyres now rather than the original Dunlop Sports which were worn out and the sidewalls were quite soft. The Vredesteins are much better and the JEC offers discount!

    The spoked wheels were also new in the rebuild, I believe they are Italian and quite a famous manufacturer beginning with B but I can't remember who! I don't think they are cheap! lol!
    Wire wheels are never cheap, even lower priced ones are at least £180 per piece.

    The restoration work, for me I'll be doing it to have it look as close as possible to the way it came off the assembly line. The only exception I might do to it is to add air conditioning on both of it as I absolutely cannot tolerate driving around during hot summer days without the air conditioner turned on at full blast.

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    Must be awesome to have a barn to store all those cars, would love to be able to do that!

    Amazing your aunt is giving them away the cars for free! There is probably at least £60k at least of cars just in the Mk.II and E-Type alone!
    Her late husband left her with a terrible fortune, used to be some bigshot with Shell before he went missing. Let's just say between his pensions and stocks he left her, it's enough for her to have an enviable living standard.

    The cars? Basically she just wants everything gone, she wants the entire house emptied out before end of this month as it's been sold. She doesn't really like anything old, so she wants to take nothing with her to Australia where she is moving to. Selling it? She can't be bothered, she much rather give it away than to live with the idea that she sold it cheap... crazy woman.

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    What are the junks? Anything special or are they scrap yard material? Might be worth seeing if there is a owners club if you don't want em!

    The ones that are worth taking are the 2 Jags.

    The other 3 that are in good nick :-

    1) 64 Mini Cooper S, is MOTed but tired. My aunt still uses it every now and then. I doubt she knows the real value of it.
    2) 50 Austin Atlantic A90, last taxed in 1988 as well. TBH I've no idea what car this is as I've never seen one before, only know it so from the documents.
    3) 37 Morris Eight. Last taxed in 1988 as well.

    There are about 10 other cars littered all over the property, her late husband had this habit where he didn't get rid of cars, just left them on his field.

    Most are the BL era craps that should never have been built, 4 of them are the Rover SD1s. 2 ADO16s, 1 Maestro, 1 MG Midget, 1 Alfetta and an Alfa Romeo Giulia.

    Would love to take the Alfas but I think my wife will slaughter me alive for even mentioning it. In any case they're in such poor state it'd take a lot of work to get them running again.
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    Can't believe I'm asking this... but, what's the condition of the mini... and any interest in it?

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    Also doesn't see a lot of use. Presumably it's a summer only car?




    Am not particularly concerned about the speed they can go.... rather have leisurely drives with it than go for sprints.

    Definitely not going to a track with it.

    Yes the Series 3 does have the fish tail exhaust, the only thing amiss with the Series 3 is it just doesn't have the good looks of a Series 1, the bumper somewhat spoils the looks of it and somehow or rather the lines seem rather off.

    The Series 1, once done up.... I think my wife will kill me if she found out I'm bringing it for laps around a track



    Wire wheels are never cheap, even lower priced ones are at least £180 per piece.

    The restoration work, for me I'll be doing it to have it look as close as possible to the way it came off the assembly line. The only exception I might do to it is to add air conditioning on both of it as I absolutely cannot tolerate driving around during hot summer days without the air conditioner turned on at full blast.



    Her late husband left her with a terrible fortune, used to be some bigshot with Shell before he went missing. Let's just say between his pensions and stocks he left her, it's enough for her to have an enviable living standard.

    The cars? Basically she just wants everything gone, she wants the entire house emptied out before end of this month as it's been sold. She doesn't really like anything old, so she wants to take nothing with her to Australia where she is moving to. Selling it? She can't be bothered, she much rather give it away than to live with the idea that she sold it cheap... crazy woman.




    The ones that are worth taking are the 2 Jags.

    The other 3 that are in good nick :-

    1) 64 Mini Cooper S, is MOTed but tired. My aunt still uses it every now and then. I doubt she knows the real value of it.
    2) 50 Austin Atlantic A90, last taxed in 1988 as well. TBH I've no idea what car this is as I've never seen one before, only know it so from the documents.
    3) 37 Morris Eight. Last taxed in 1988 as well.

    There are about 10 other cars littered all over the property, her late husband had this habit where he didn't get rid of cars, just left them on his field.

    Most are the BL era craps that should never have been built, 4 of them are the Rover SD1s. 2 ADO16s, 1 Maestro, 1 MG Midget, 1 Alfetta and an Alfa Romeo Giulia.

    Would love to take the Alfas but I think my wife will slaughter me alive for even mentioning it. In any case they're in such poor state it'd take a lot of work to get them running again.
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    (Original post by Manesh2468)
    if it is turning then just change the oil, drain fuel, maybe new spark plugs to speed things up, new fuel, i dno if they used unleaded or leaded fuel got no idea about that but it might be worth finding out, put a new battery in and hope the old girl starts, oil filter and fuel filter too, and that start up spray is very useful the one that says on the can "start ya (person that is given birth to when parents aint married l0l you know what i mean...)" and gl with it.
    Easy start/ether is basically crack for engines - engines often develop an addiction to it! It's not good for them though, so I'd avoid using it unless it's a serious situation.
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    (Original post by gbduo)
    There is nothing wrong with the S3 at all, it just depends on what you want, a very comfortable and good looking GT or a good looking sports car! The S3 is still very capable, but the 4.2 is faster because it is lighter, not that you would be able to tell other than on a track!
    Disagree. The V12 actually does 150mph. The 6 cylinder er... doesnt!
    (No matter what the 60's jaguar press claimed at the time)
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    (Original post by JC.)
    Disagree. The V12 actually does 150mph. The 6 cylinder er... doesnt!
    (No matter what the 60's jaguar press claimed at the time)
    As I say, you would only tell the difference on the track.

    The Series 1 and 2 are lighter so they have better handling, the V12 has better top end, but the Series 1 would run rings round it.
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    (Original post by gbduo)
    As I say, you would only tell the difference on the track.

    The Series 1 and 2 are lighter so they have better handling, the V12 has better top end, but the Series 1 would run rings round it.

    Really? So many people bang on and on about handling like they are race drivers.
    The reality is most people are mediocre behind the wheel at best.

    The V12 may feel a bit softer, but point to point you aren't going to notice any discernable difference. On a motorway or an A road the V12 would just "eff off".

    Day to day the V12 is the car to have.
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    (Original post by Iorek)
    Also doesn't see a lot of use. Presumably it's a summer only car?

    Am not particularly concerned about the speed they can go.... rather have leisurely drives with it than go for sprints.

    Definitely not going to a track with it.

    Yes the Series 3 does have the fish tail exhaust, the only thing amiss with the Series 3 is it just doesn't have the good looks of a Series 1, the bumper somewhat spoils the looks of it and somehow or rather the lines seem rather off.

    The Series 1, once done up.... I think my wife will kill me if she found out I'm bringing it for laps around a track



    Wire wheels are never cheap, even lower priced ones are at least £180 per piece.

    The restoration work, for me I'll be doing it to have it look as close as possible to the way it came off the assembly line. The only exception I might do to it is to add air conditioning on both of it as I absolutely cannot tolerate driving around during hot summer days without the air conditioner turned on at full blast.



    Her late husband left her with a terrible fortune, used to be some bigshot with Shell before he went missing. Let's just say between his pensions and stocks he left her, it's enough for her to have an enviable living standard.

    The cars? Basically she just wants everything gone, she wants the entire house emptied out before end of this month as it's been sold. She doesn't really like anything old, so she wants to take nothing with her to Australia where she is moving to. Selling it? She can't be bothered, she much rather give it away than to live with the idea that she sold it cheap... crazy woman.




    The ones that are worth taking are the 2 Jags.

    The other 3 that are in good nick :-

    1) 64 Mini Cooper S, is MOTed but tired. My aunt still uses it every now and then. I doubt she knows the real value of it.
    2) 50 Austin Atlantic A90, last taxed in 1988 as well. TBH I've no idea what car this is as I've never seen one before, only know it so from the documents.
    3) 37 Morris Eight. Last taxed in 1988 as well.

    There are about 10 other cars littered all over the property, her late husband had this habit where he didn't get rid of cars, just left them on his field.

    Most are the BL era craps that should never have been built, 4 of them are the Rover SD1s. 2 ADO16s, 1 Maestro, 1 MG Midget, 1 Alfetta and an Alfa Romeo Giulia.

    Would love to take the Alfas but I think my wife will slaughter me alive for even mentioning it. In any case they're in such poor state it'd take a lot of work to get them running again.
    Yeh dry days only more, it gets used in the winter on bright and dry roads. But yeh obviously the most dry days are in the Summer!

    It has a problem at the moment and it is not running right, just waiting on a free weekend to get it into a specialist!

    Yeh that is what we use ours for, a leisurely or may I say sprintly drive in the country is much better than all out speed IMO, particularly in such an expensive and rare classic, combine fast driving with the other idiots on the road and you could be in for some very expensive repairs!

    I think the Alfas, Mini, SD1, A90 and the Morris would be worth asking around the owners clubs and checking pistonheads. Particularly the Mini, this is a future classic and is only appreciating in value, particularly 60s. If you want it to go to a good home, give me a shout!! Please!

    You might be surprised how collectable some of those cars are now and how much they fetch...

    Sounds like a great life her late husband led before his mishap! At least he enjoyed his money to the full!

    I think the wire wheels were just shy of £650 a corner back in 1990, so dread to think what they are now.

    Oh just found them, I remembered they are Borrani wheels, here is the link:-

    http://www.borrani.co.uk/page/Jaguar...ireWheels.html

    They are now £920 ea.

    You can get these American copies for a rather more reasonable £260 but obviously the Borrani's are the ones to have so its up to you!

    http://www.sngbarratt.com/catalogue/...t=y&senderid=1

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    (Original post by JC.)
    Really? So many people bang on and on about handling like they are race drivers.
    The reality is most people are mediocre behind the wheel at best.

    The V12 may feel a bit softer, but point to point you aren't going to notice any discernable difference. On a motorway or an A road the V12 would just "eff off".

    Day to day the V12 is the car to have.
    Car to have for you.

    There is a reason why the S1 and S2 are worth more.
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    (Original post by gbduo)
    Car to have for you.

    There is a reason why the S1 and S2 are worth more.
    I wonder what that reason could be?
    Folk that enjoy moss gearboxes and standing at the roadside waiting for the XK lump to cool down, perhaps?
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    (Original post by gbduo)
    Yeh dry days only more, it gets used in the winter on bright and dry roads. But yeh obviously the most dry days are in the Summer!

    It has a problem at the moment and it is not running right, just waiting on a free weekend to get it into a specialist!

    Yeh that is what we use ours for, a leisurely or may I say sprintly drive in the country is much better than all out speed IMO, particularly in such an expensive and rare classic, combine fast driving with the other idiots on the road and you could be in for some very expensive repairs!

    I think the Alfas, Mini, SD1, A90 and the Morris would be worth asking around the owners clubs and checking pistonheads. Particularly the Mini, this is a future classic and is only appreciating in value, particularly 60s. If you want it to go to a good home, give me a shout!! Please!

    You might be surprised how collectable some of those cars are now and how much they fetch...

    Sounds like a great life her late husband led before his mishap! At least he enjoyed his money to the full!

    I think the wire wheels were just shy of £650 a corner back in 1990, so dread to think what they are now.

    Oh just found them, I remembered they are Borrani wheels, here is the link:-

    http://www.borrani.co.uk/page/Jaguar...ireWheels.html

    They are now £920 ea.

    You can get these American copies for a rather more reasonable £260 but obviously the Borrani's are the ones to have so its up to you!

    http://www.sngbarratt.com/catalogue/...t=y&senderid=1

    Graham
    I myself feel a lot safer doing 140mph than 40mph, but in a classic car... usually best to be reasonable and prudent.... unlike modern cars a crash in a classic car, expensive to fix is one thing, rare another but your chances of survival isn't all that good either

    In regard to wire wheels for the E-Type, I most likely will just get a set of refurbished Dunlops, Need to rein in the finances as my Chancellor of The Exchequer at home isn't a Credit Card Chancellor

    We decided to keep only the 2 Jags, the Morris 8 and the Austin A90.

    The rest, according to my restorer the SD1s, ADO16s and the Alfetta are beyond repair or not economically feasible for repairs. They are all going to the scrapyard.

    The Giulia and Midget are in repairable condition, will look for a good home for them.

    The Maestro...... £10 car that will cost me more to get rid of.

    The Mini, it's the biggest surprise of the lot, just tired looking... it was purchased new in Singapore by my late grandfather for my aunt.... it only came to Britain after 20 years when she moved here.. will let it go if no one in the family wants it.

    Yeah, her late husband knew how to enjoy his money when he had it. Cars, big bikes and travelling was his thing and he certainly went places.

    How often does the E-Type get serviced and maintained since it does so little miles each year?
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    I would suggest you offer the ADO16 on the relevent forum - if it's a GT you might find you'll get more from one of them than from a scrap yard.
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    My 190E had been in a barn for 14 years....

    It needed new coil springs and balljoints as they're seized up and bagged out...

    The handbrake and calipers needed unseizing...

    The engine was flushed with Kerosene (Engine flush) and drained and filled with new old, then drained and refilled after 500 miles...

    Brake fluid changed as it absorbs alot of water over time and the brake pipes replaced.

    That was about it... Bodywork was smashing.
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    (Original post by Iorek)
    I myself feel a lot safer doing 140mph than 40mph, but in a classic car... usually best to be reasonable and prudent.... unlike modern cars a crash in a classic car, expensive to fix is one thing, rare another but your chances of survival isn't all that good either

    the old volvo tanks l0l not the best of classics but its built like a tank good chance of survival in that :cool:
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    the old volvo tanks l0l not the best of classics but its built like a tank good chance of survival in that :cool:
    Yes that one is very safe.... you got to get it to speed first
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    (Original post by JC.)
    I wonder what that reason could be?
    Folk that enjoy moss gearboxes and standing at the roadside waiting for the XK lump to cool down, perhaps?
    Cooling down is easily fixed and has been on almost all E-Types now. Moss gearboxes are only on early S1, if you get the slightly later S1 and a half, then it has a proper synchro box rather than the crash box. So all the good looks of the S1, without the problems of the gearbox!

    The S1 and S2 are more sought after because they are rare, look better, handle better, have the XK engine which is a peach and are a sports car. The S3 is a very good GT, but damn does it have a ugly face.
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    (Original post by Iorek)
    I myself feel a lot safer doing 140mph than 40mph, but in a classic car... usually best to be reasonable and prudent.... unlike modern cars a crash in a classic car, expensive to fix is one thing, rare another but your chances of survival isn't all that good either

    In regard to wire wheels for the E-Type, I most likely will just get a set of refurbished Dunlops, Need to rein in the finances as my Chancellor of The Exchequer at home isn't a Credit Card Chancellor

    We decided to keep only the 2 Jags, the Morris 8 and the Austin A90.

    The rest, according to my restorer the SD1s, ADO16s and the Alfetta are beyond repair or not economically feasible for repairs. They are all going to the scrapyard.

    The Giulia and Midget are in repairable condition, will look for a good home for them.

    The Maestro...... £10 car that will cost me more to get rid of.

    The Mini, it's the biggest surprise of the lot, just tired looking... it was purchased new in Singapore by my late grandfather for my aunt.... it only came to Britain after 20 years when she moved here.. will let it go if no one in the family wants it.

    Yeah, her late husband knew how to enjoy his money when he had it. Cars, big bikes and travelling was his thing and he certainly went places.

    How often does the E-Type get serviced and maintained since it does so little miles each year?
    Serviced once a year, but it is fettled throughout the year, the carbs normally need a tune in the spring and winter. Again all done by professionals. Nothing stopping you doing it yourself, Dad and I just don't have the time to do it and the guy we use is reasonably priced and has years of experience, so no brainer!

    Dunlop tyres? Or Dunlop wheels? Tyre wise, we have Vredestein on ours and they are very good and the JEC will give club discount with them through some vendors as they are used in the JEC racing series. The Dunlop tyres are fine, but the Vredestein's feel more modern and are more grippy in all conditions.

    Because the E-Type is all bonnet and the bonnet is one piece of metal it is VERY expensive to get a new one, genuine ones are all gone and the patent parts will need panel beating to fit as each E-Type was kinda unique as they were hand built. So whatever you do, do not dent or scrape the bonnet!

    Let me know about the Mini.

    If you need any more help on this or whatever, feel free to PM at anytime.

    Graham
 
 
 
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