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BIOL4 Biology Unit 4 Exam - 13th June 2011 Watch

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    (Original post by Stratos)
    Having done the two as retakes I'm almost sure it will be something to do with respiration and the lung, and from unit two probably something to do with meiosis and genetics.
    Fffuuu- I hate meiosis. Quick recap of it for me please?
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    (Original post by tehsponge)
    Fffuuu- I hate meiosis. Quick recap of it for me please?
    I literally completely forgot about it, I don't think I got a question about it on Unit 2 :ahee:
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    (Original post by tehsponge)
    Fffuuu- I hate meiosis. Quick recap of it for me please?
    Eeeeerm what i can remember?

    diploid number of gametes (so double of mitosis)
    random fusion of gametes increases genetic diversity
    also independent segregation and crossing over

    that's all i can remember
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    (Original post by *Rainbow*)
    Does anyone get question 2c in Jan 2011? The hardy weinberg? Dont really get why they got 48% I got like 27%
    I'm still confuzzled as to how this answer is worked out?
    Could someone show the working out how to get the answer ... i'm using p2 + 2pq +r2 to work it out.
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    (Original post by sakha1)
    I'm still confuzzled as to how this answer is worked out?
    Could someone show the working out how to get the answer ... i'm using p2 + 2pq +r2 to work it out.
    Finally worked this out..

    you have to square the p and then do 1-q try that and let me know if u get it
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    16% 0.16
    square root of 0.16=0.4=q

    p+q=1
    if q=0.4 then p=0.6

    2pq=% that is hetorzygous

    so you do 2x0.6x0.4=0.48
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    (Original post by sakha1)
    I'm still confuzzled as to how this answer is worked out?
    Could someone show the working out how to get the answer ... i'm using p2 + 2pq +r2 to work it out.
    The question tells us that 16% of the population is Rhesus negative, therefore q^2 = 0.16. (Rhesus negative is recessive, therefore to be rhesus negative you must be homozygous recessive).

    If you square root 0.16 you get the value of q, i.e. 0.4
    1-0.4 = p as p+q=1
    So p=0.6

    The % of the population that is hetrozygous is 2pq = 2x0.6x0.4=0.48

    Therefore 48%
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    (Original post by sakha1)
    I'm still confuzzled as to how this answer is worked out?
    Could someone show the working out how to get the answer ... i'm using p2 + 2pq +r2 to work it out.
    Weird, I just did that question.
    Here's my working out:
    16% = rr
    0.16 = rr
    so q^2=0.16
    so q=0.4

    p+q=1.0
    so p=0.6

    Then I just put those values into p^2+2pq+q^2=1.0 and got 0.48
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    (Original post by *Rainbow*)
    Finally worked this out..

    you have to square the p and then do 1-p try that and let me know if u get it
    I still don't get it:
    This is what i've got so far and i know it's wrong ...
    16% = r2
    0.16
    r=0.4
    p2 +2pq + r2 = 1
    2pq=0.2=1
    2pq=0.8
    pq=0.4

    I don't even know what i'm doing now could you show me the full working out please?
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    (Original post by tehsponge)
    Weird, I just did that question.
    Here's my working out:
    16% = rr
    0.16 = rr
    so q^2=0.16
    so q=0.4

    p+q=1.0
    so p=0.6

    Then I just put those values into p^2+2pq+q^2=1.0 and got 0.48
    Oh, that makes sense ... thank you. Why didn't i just plug the values in
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    Thanks all
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    (Original post by sakha1)
    I still don't get it:
    This is what i've got so far and i know it's wrong ...
    16% = r2
    0.16
    r=0.4
    p2 +2pq + r2 = 1
    2pq=0.2=1
    2pq=0.8
    pq=0.4

    I don't even know what i'm doing now could you show me the full working out please?
    There's lots of people above me who've done a far better job of explaining than me! hehe
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    For the Hardy Weinberg, if it gives you a % you have to square root but otherwise you don't right ? What if they give you frequency?
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    (Original post by NRican)
    For the Hardy Weinberg, if it gives you a % you have to square root but otherwise you don't right ? What if they give you frequency?
    Well that depends if they gave you the frequency of the allele or the frequency of a genotype. If it was just the frequency of an allele then there would be no need to square root it.
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    (Original post by tehsponge)
    Well that depends if they gave you the frequency of the allele or the frequency of a genotype. If it was just the frequency of an allele then there would be no need to square root it.
    Do you have any examples of this :s
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    Can someone please help me with this?

    Question 1cii Jan 11

    How do you get to the answer?
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    (Original post by *Rainbow*)
    Do you have any examples of this :s
    Well say you had a question that went something along the lines of:

    In London there are short haired mice and long haired mice. The allele for short haired mice H is dominant to the allele for long haired mice, h.

    If the question went on to say: the allele frequency of long hair is 0.4 then you know that q=0.4.

    However if it said something like, the frequency of long haired mice in the population is 0.4 then q^2=0.4. Because you're given the genotype frequency and not the allele frequency, you must square root it.
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    (Original post by Tericon)
    Can someone please help me with this?

    Question 1cii Jan 11

    How do you get to the answer?
    Total population in 2007 is 107,000,000

    Death rate is 5 per 1000 people. Divide the total population by 1000 and multiply by 5 to work out how many people died in 2007. ie. 535000

    Birth rate is 20/1000. Divide total population by 1000 and multiply by 20 to work out how many births there were in 2007. ie. 2140000

    Population of 2008 is: Total population in 2007 + total number of births in 2007 - total number of deaths.
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    (Original post by Jing_jing)
    Total population in 2007 is 107,000,000

    Death rate is 5 per 1000 people. Divide the total population by 1000 and multiply by 5 to work out how many people died in 2007. ie. 535000

    Birth rate is 20/1000. Divide total population by 1000 and multiply by 20 to work out how many births there were in 2007. ie. 2140000

    Population of 2008 is: Total population in 2007 + total number of births in 2007 - total number of deaths.

    Thank you
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    Lets do some questions people!

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