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    flawed how?? point of view that UCL's extremely wide range of masters that exceeds LSE's topped with a marginal difference of quality of both instutions in my mind gives UCL slightly better department. I did not give ranking that much weight otherwise manchester allegedly would have been 33rd :rolleyes:
    UCL is not better than LSE by any stretch of the imagination. Let alone in a different tier
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    you are right in saying they did not give me much but out of ten well performing MC firms i.e slaugheter, allen, hogan lov's ect all gave me a preferred list but they highlighted they will recruit beyond this as not to discriminate but it is less likely you will get an interview...my age does not really become an issue when asking a question about universities??

    Average UCAS was 400--10 points below QMUL and Exeter, on par with SOAS. - you have the wrong idea, i meant what people finish with i.e 1sts, 2:1's...leicester is fairly low on both year on year.

    the high take of international students is not sustainable because they are lowering the entrance requirements this could possibly be some evidence towards the lower grade achievements too?? but this will inevitably bring the law school down

    looks like quite a few firms sponsor various events (debating, etc.). -sponsorship is not recruitment

    Doubt he got much of anything. These firms aren't sending out their entire recruiting strategy to 18 yr olds.]- they are not but the question i asked was if would be dissadvantaged at a particular uni(hence being given a preffered list) and being a potential applicant one cannot imagine being given the wrong advice :confused:
    1. I'm guessing the "preferred list" they sent you is a list of universities where they actively hold recruiting events, etc.?

    2. I don't exactly understand the purpose of this argument. You do understand that Leicester has about the same breakdown of classifcations as most other unis?

    First Class:
    Upper Second:

    Nottingham
    8%
    63%
    Bristol
    6%
    64%
    Leicester
    8%
    59%


    3. Cross-apply the argument I was making about UCAS points. They are only 10 points less than Exeter/QMUL, and on par with SOAS--thus, no evidence of overall standards dropping.

    4. Let me give you a quick overview of how HR/Recruiting works. A firm sponsors an event. They do this to get the name out to the student body. They don't do this for charity or the kindness of their heart. If they weren't getting any intake from their sponsored/recruiting events, they would just cease it. What makes you believe Leicester grads aren't landing TC's?
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    (Original post by lionboy)
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    Interested to know what you make of this...
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    (Original post by lionboy)
    flawed how?? point of view that UCL's extremely wide range of masters that exceeds LSE's topped with a marginal difference of quality of both instutions in my mind gives UCL slightly better department. I did not give ranking that much weight otherwise manchester allegedly would have been 33rd :rolleyes:
    So let me get this strait. The quantity of masters programs offered by the university as a whole, makes its law school better?
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    Interested to know what you make of this...
    If I may interject, I laughed a lot.
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    (Original post by bramz19)
    Interested to know what you make of this...
    yeh i'v seen it, and reading is number 8.... as if, this is why i take only vague notice of league tables
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    So let me get this strait. The quantity of masters programs offered by the university as a whole, makes its law school better?
    no not neccessarily but given the marginal difference between the two school I just felt UCL had more to offer a prospective student on whole???
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    (Original post by adam0311)
    1. I'm guessing the "preferred list" they sent you is a list of universities where they actively hold recruiting events, etc.?

    2. I don't exactly understand the purpose of this argument. You do understand that Leicester has about the same breakdown of classifcations as most other unis?

    First Class:
    Upper Second:

    Nottingham
    8%
    63%
    Bristol
    6%
    64%
    Leicester
    8%
    59%


    3. Cross-apply the argument I was making about UCAS points. They are only 10 points less than Exeter/QMUL, and on par with SOAS--thus, no evidence of overall standards dropping.

    4. Let me give you a quick overview of how HR/Recruiting works. A firm sponsors an event. They do this to get the name out to the student body. They don't do this for charity or the kindness of their heart. If they weren't getting any intake from their sponsored/recruiting events, they would just cease it. What makes you believe Leicester grads aren't landing TC's?
    yehhhhh again, i have had a look at previous years and leicester does worse...the track record of leicester is volatile to say the least and I would not give it a higher rank than it has
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    (Original post by TimmonaPortella)
    If I may interject, I laughed a lot.
    You may, and I'm very glad to hear it. Laughter will soothe the pain of holding an offer from a second-rate university

    (Original post by lionboy)
    yeh i'v seen it, and reading is number 8.... as if, this is why i take only vague notice of league tables
    I understand. I'm sure your table, which manages the amazing feat of being both "subjective" and "impartial", is far superior to the one slaved over by a crack team of educational experts over the course of many months
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    (Original post by bramz19)
    Interested to know what you make of this...
    A 5 place movement up for Leicester. 3 place movement downward for his beloved uni. Interested as well.
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    You may, and I'm very glad to hear it. Laughter will soothe the pain of holding an offer from a second-rate university



    I understand. I'm sure your table, which manages the amazing feat of being both "subjective" and "impartial", is far superior to the one slaved over by a crack team of educational experts over the course of many months
    ummmm experts??? do you know this...the point is reading is not a top ten uni for...ever and some of the others are exaggerated ...can you really rate student satisfaction ?? a survey from a student after freshers week is bound to give an amazing rating to their uni...and its not as if they will beat up on their on course.
    Dont lynch me to much but i have found a general rule of thumb for uni quality is entry points...even though its not entirely accurate it does give a pretty good guideline to go by
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    (Original post by lionboy)
    ummmm experts??? do you know this...the point is reading is not a top ten uni for...ever and some of the others are exaggerated ...can you really rate student satisfaction ?? a survey from a student after freshers week is bound to give an amazing rating to their uni...and its not as if they will beat up on their on course.
    Dont lynch me to much but i have found a general rule of thumb for uni quality is entry points...even though its not entirely accurate it does give a pretty good guideline to go by
    How does it feel to be going to a uni that only has 10 higher entry points than Leicester? Do you feel as if you are are attending a university in DECLINE and a VOLATILE institution?
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    (Original post by lionboy)
    ummmm experts??? do you know this...the point is reading is not a top ten uni for...ever and some of the others are exaggerated ...can you really rate student satisfaction ?? a survey from a student after freshers week is bound to give an amazing rating to their uni...and its not as if they will beat up on their on course.
    Dont lynch me to much but i have found a general rule of thumb for uni quality is entry points...even though its not entirely accurate it does give a pretty good guideline to go by
    Student Satisfaction is a survey on final year students not "students after freshers week". Moreover, LSE has higher entry standards of 536, whilst UCL's is 522. So you aren't basing your ranking on entry standards then.
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    (Original post by bramz19)
    You may, and I'm very glad to hear it. Laughter will soothe the pain of holding an offer from a second-rate university
    Oh, always with the digs
    I also found some other parts funny though, like generally QMUL>Reading>king's>bristol>SOAS>Leicester > Warwick

    And there's this place I've never heard of at third. Must be some kind of ex-poly :s
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    (Original post by candii)
    Student Satisfaction is a survey on final year students not "students after freshers week". Moreover, LSE has higher entry standards of 536, whilst UCL's is 522. So you aren't basing your ranking on entry standards then.
    no you did not read my blog properly. I said a good guideline, itwas more to disprove universities like reading and lancaster belonging in the top ten...it gets frightfully fuzzy in the top ten catergory, even im prepared to admit this...but you do seem awfully offended about the rating of LSE...im sorry if this is the case I just prefered UCLs 'assets' compared to LSEs not that there was a great difference...i really cannot stress this enough
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    (Original post by adam0311)
    How does it feel to be going to a uni that only has 10 higher entry points than Leicester? Do you feel as if you are are attending a university in DECLINE and a VOLATILE institution?
    yeh im not thrilled about exeters rank :mad: but I dont mind as it seems to be favoured by employers and also 'seems' to have a better teaching record(based on stats) however i am not there yet lol
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    (Original post by adam0311)
    How does it feel to be going to a uni that only has 10 higher entry points than Leicester? Do you feel as if you are are attending a university in DECLINE and a VOLATILE institution?
    also according to league tables the same could be said for manchester, liverpool, warwick ect...which are better than leicester to
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    (Original post by lionboy)
    no you did not read my blog properly. I said a good guideline, itwas more to disprove universities like reading and lancaster belonging in the top ten...it gets frightfully fuzzy in the top ten catergory, even im prepared to admit this...but you do seem awfully offended about the rating of LSE...im sorry if this is the case I just prefered UCLs 'assets' compared to LSEs not that there was a great difference...i really cannot stress this enough
    What blog are you referring to?
    And no, I'm not "awfully offended". I simply don't believe that UCL should be in a higher tier to LSE and would be open to thinking otherwise if you had put forward a valid and accurate argument for this, however, you haven't. And I also don't believe your comment actually responded to my point that LSE's entry standards are higher, and so with your reasoning should be higher in your table than UCL.

    EDIT: Instead of negging me could you offer an opinion.
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    (Original post by TimmonaPortella)
    Oh, always with the digs
    I also found some other parts funny though, like generally QMUL>Reading>king's>bristol>SOAS>Leicester > Warwick

    And there's this place I've never heard of at third. Must be some kind of ex-poly :s
    Haha, yeah, I'm not too sure about that place. I hear a lot about it though, I think it's like the School of Comedy or something, not at all sure how it got up there, maybe it's an inside joke of some sort. One thing's for sure though: it would take something pretty special to get rejected from there: they seem to give offers out left, right and centre, provided you pay enough for your secondary education
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    (Original post by candii)
    What blog are you referring to?
    And no, I'm not "awfully offended". I simply don't believe that UCL should be in a higher tier to LSE and would be open to thinking otherwise if you had put forward a valid and accurate argument for this, however, you haven't. And I also don't believe your comment actually responded to my point that LSE's entry standards are higher, and so with your reasoning should be higher in your table than UCL.

    EDIT: Instead of negging me could you offer an opinion.
    was not me but im not to sure you are as open minded as you say, im not going to lecture you on why i think UCL is better than LSE ...how is my argument not valid by the way ...UCL does offer a wider variety of llm's and do have a similar quality law school to LSE and is recognised as internationally strong law school hence overall I believe it edges LSE...just because you believe LSE is better through it being smaller and possibly having better teaching qulity at undergrad level( these are 'my' pros for LSE tho..i dont know yours) does not make my argument wrong or invalid

    *this i not to say LSE is equally recognised
 
 
 
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