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    Ridiculous notion - there is no sense in pandering to minorities. If you want halal meat, go to the halal butchers or take your chances.
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    Erm.. no.
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    (Original post by Glee)
    I think it would be a great idea.
    No one will be at a disadvantage as I know some people prefer non-halal meat to halal.
    Having said that, I'd also like to point out the haenous number of intolerant racists on here. You have no justifiable reason to say no?
    Racists? do explain...

    And people have given reasons to say no. Did you even read the thread before you decided to launch in with that labour education bull****?

    Edit: Has it occured to you that by saying that muslims are a race you are in a round about way saying that there are some races which cant be muslim and therefore being racist yourself?
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    (Original post by 8086)
    Or we could all just do the natural thing and eat normal meat. I just don't get vegetarians, or the whole halal thing. What's the point?
    Slaughtering is to be done from the front of the neck, between the throat and the head of the breast bone (Libba). The throat/oesophagus (Mirree), windpipe/trachea (Halkoom) and the two jugular veins (Wadijan) are cut in the neck without severing the spinal cord. This cut severes the arteries to the brain of the animal, thus depriving the brain of blood supply. As a result, the brain loses consciousness due to insufficient oxygen. This renders the animal unconscious, causing the animal the least amount of pain.

    The goal is to slaughter the animal, limiting the amount of pain the animal will endure.

    Additionally, Muslims are enjoined to slaughter their livestock by slitting the animal's throat in a swift and merciful manner, saying, “ Bismillah Allah-u-Akbar” "In the name of God, God is Most Great." This is in acknowledgement that the life of this creature if taken by God's permission to meet one's lawful need for food. The animal is then bled completely.

    source: http://www.ehalal.org/zabiha.html

    Hope this helped
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    I would feel a little uncomfortable/ patronised if I was going to eat something labelled 'Haraam' :/
    If it was a Muslim country then yes, but not in the UK where Muslims represent only a small minority of the population.
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    your mums haraam!
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    Not bothered tbh. just read the ingredients - whether it says suitable for vegetarians or not. simples really
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    (Original post by OMG TOOTHBRUSH)
    No because we don't live in a muslim country. If we did this for muslims it would only be fair to do it for every other potential dietary needs and the packaging would be a mess covered in writing.
    This. Lol.
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    (Original post by imzir)
    As a golden rule most muslims know that they have to check that the food is suitable for vegetarian and contain no alcohol. But not all foods say suitable for vegetarian when they are (and a lot do not specify that they are not suitable for vegetarian when they contain animal products) and for some food wrappers it can be a nightmare reading the ingredients with an incredibly small font listed with all the other languages.

    There are few foods which are labeled as 'halal'. But I say all foods should be labelled 'halaal' or 'not halal' as well as 'suitable for vegetarians' and 'not suitable for vegetarians'
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of...rity_countries

    Maybe if you pick one of those countries to live in you'll find that they label the food in this way?
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    (Original post by CombineHarvester)
    You're allowed to eat/drink something that has trace amounts of alcohol. Bread has trace amounts of alcohol for example and it isn't haraam.
    Therefore, is having a trace amount of alcohol & suitable for vegetarians a good criteria for halaal?

    (Original post by ily_em)
    Surely you could have given them to somebody rather than waste the M&M goodness :eek:
    No. If it's not good for consumption for Muslims, it is neither for Non-Muslims.
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    (Original post by CombineHarvester)
    You're allowed to eat/drink something that has trace amounts of alcohol. Bread has trace amounts of alcohol for example and it isn't haraam.
    Evidence?
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    (Original post by Know_ThySelf)
    Evidence?
    It also depends on the type of alcohol too. See here.
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    (Original post by morecambebay)
    Racists? do explain...

    And people have given reasons to say no. Did you even read the thread before you decided to launch in with that labour education bull****?

    Edit: Has it occured to you that by saying that muslims are a race you are in a round about way saying that there are some races which arent muslim and therefore being racist yourself?
    Listen fellow, I have things to do so don't pester me.
    'Did you even read the thread' I'll assume that was rhetoric.
    Read the aforementioned statement - 'No one is at a disadvantage....'. But you must be lacking so I'll elaborate. People either prefer halal or non-halal meat. Now everyone has the choice! So why would someone be reluctant? Perhaps for an unhindering dogmatism backed up with an obstinate reluctance to tolerate all religions, in your case I'm damn sure. Or maybe just a little hesitation for a few.
    This is people making it easier for people. This is you doing otherwise.
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    (Original post by Craig_D)
    I see what you mean (I certainly don't see the point in labelling all food by Muslim standards, which is just one faith group), but I find this may lead to almost all UK meat becoming halal, with producers not wanting to lose out on Muslim trade. I feel a little disturbed knowing I'm buying meat which has been ritually slaughtered via an incision to the neck, a technique which if improperly carried out the UN has shown to cause severe pain and distress to the animal. Yes, I know that maybe eating any meat makes me a barbarian of sorts, but it eases my mind slightly to know that when stunned the animal is not tortured. I really feel that rather than extending the eating of halal meat to the wider populace, under the assumption that it doesn't matter to them what they're eating but it does to Muslims, that it be maintained in its current state as a specialist meat. I understand anyone disagreeing however.
    All halal meat sold in the UK for the commercial, mainstream market (i.e. those sold in supermarkets, fast food chains, restaurants etc.) is stunned just like mechanical slaughter. It's only private Muslim/Jewish butchers who slaughter meat privately who can use non-stunned methods of slaughter. Even then, Muslim butchers get their halal meat from commercial abattoirs meaning that in theory you can only feasibly acquire non-stunned meat on request direct from a private abattoir (currently none exist in the UK). As it stands well over 90% of halal meat in the UK is stunned according to normal slaughter practices whereas the majority of Kosher is not (then again the practising Jewish population in the UK is very small so it's extremely rare).

    http://www.guardian.co.uk/theguardia...meat-the-truth
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    Even in Saudi Arabia, I would be careful as a Muslim to perceive all food as being halaal, as I was told that there was meat being sold that was in fact haraam being sold in Mecca, once asked.
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    (Original post by CombineHarvester)
    All halal meat sold in the UK for the commercial, mainstream market (i.e. those sold in supermarkets, fast food chains, restaurants etc.) is stunned just like mechanical slaughter. It's only private Muslim/Jewish butchers who slaughter meat privately who can use non-stunned methods of slaughter. Even then, Muslim butchers get their halal meat from commercial abattoirs meaning that in theory you can only feasibly acquire non-stunned meat on request direct from a private abattoir (currently none exist in the UK). As it stands well over 90% of halal meat in the UK is stunned according to normal slaughter practices whereas the majority of Kosher is not (then again the practising Jewish population in the UK is very small so it's extremely rare).

    http://www.guardian.co.uk/theguardia...meat-the-truth
    So how can Muslims justify eating the rest? :hmmmm:
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    (Original post by Hamesh)
    Even in Saudi Arabia, I would be careful as a Muslim to perceive all food as being halaal, as I was told that there was meat being sold that was in fact haraam being sold in Mecca, once asked.
    What? :shock: :eek4:
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    would be soo helpful
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    Just read the back, its not a Muslm country. Can you imagine the amount of 'Muslim bashing' this would entail? dey tuk our paketz!!1!, or on a serious note, all other dietry requirements would have to be listed too. Just read the packets, I manage fine and I've never heard other Muslims complain either.
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    (Original post by ElMoro)
    What? :shock: :eek4:
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