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    (Original post by Stricof)
    We don't know this.
    Why are you even looking at it in a Party-win-by-win the General Election basis. That's poor. And frankly I don't think it is the aim of the BNP do win the General Election; rather it is their aim to get a seat (to put a foot into the electoral door).
    I agree; they would never be able to win a General Election. However, I'd argue that if people support them enough that they democratically elect a BNP candidate and we get a BNP MP then so be it. I wouldn't oppose a BNP MP given that he would have a mandate to be there and I won't deny people democracy based on my own views.
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    (Original post by AlexD14)
    And how many meetings have you attended? How long ago were you a fully paid up member of the party? Whilst your comment on the education system is a fair one, and one that I agree with(it does emasculate young men) your thesis on why people join the BNP is too simplistic; for a start a decent contingent within the party is of the upper-middle or upper class rather than the middle class(in regards to members I have meet) furthermore the last Yougov poll that documented the support within different socisl categories showed the BNP on 2% of the vote, with support amongst the higher half of the socio-economic hierarchy on a par with that of the lower half of the socio-economic hierarchy, the date it was published was December 2010. The exact date I am unsure of.
    Your argument is further undermined by an essay written by Martin Smith in the the SWP's quarterly journal, International Socialism. This can be found here
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    (Original post by CKin2U)
    You're a disgrace
    why is he? BNP are jokers I mean Britain isn't stuck in the past. I, as many Sikhs will believe, is that Britain is more democratic and more just than India. Sikhs are here as much for safety and rights then they are for typical BNP line "bloody foreigners, come over here, take the jobs and send the money back home". BNP forgot somewhere about the service that Sikhs have given for the war efforts for Britain, and also that econonmically and educationally, based on their size, I do believe Sikhs are the most prosperous people in Britain!! Take that!!
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    (Original post by okapobcfc08)
    why is he? BNP are jokers I mean Britain isn't stuck in the past. I, as many Sikhs will believe, is that Britain is more democratic and more just than India. Sikhs are here as much for safety and rights then they are for typical BNP line "bloody foreigners, come over here, take the jobs and send the money back home". BNP forgot somewhere about the service that Sikhs have given for the war efforts for Britain, and also that econonmically and educationally, based on their size, I do believe Sikhs are the most prosperous people in Britain!! Take that!!
    The BNP has no problem with individual Sikhs.
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    (Original post by AlexD14)
    The BNP has no problem with individual Sikhs.
    yh but come on mate, whether direct or indirect, Sikhs are in the firing line surely as they are considered as foreigners wouldn't you agree?
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    (Original post by okapobcfc08)
    yh but come on mate, whether direct or indirect, Sikhs are in the firing line surely as they are considered as foreigners wouldn't you agree?
    "In the firing" you know we're not going to send everyone who isn't White back to Africa or Asia? You know we've campaigned for years to shed our past racist image, even allowing ethnic minorities into the party at an EGM held in 2010 where only several people out of 200 abstained or rejected the motion that if passed would allow ethnics to join. So, yeah, you're talking our your ass.
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    (Original post by AlexD14)
    "In the firing" you know we're not going to send everyone who isn't White back to Africa or Asia? You know we've campaigned for years to shed our past racist image, even allowing ethnic minorities into the party at an EGM held in 2010 where only several people out of 200 abstained or rejected the motion that if passed would allow ethnics to join. So, yeah, you're talking our your ass.
    Whats the matter mate, what you need to take that tone. Aggresiveness like that is not going to help you win one of the most impossible arguments seen for a long time. OK mate, if I was to vote for BNP, what would they do for Sikhs, answer that?
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    Make a group, I won't be joining. But have you thought their plans through; if we get rid of foreign people we lose many Docters nurses and hookers. Removing ourselves from people based on race could ruin the economy; I for one would not want the UK to turn into North Korea
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    (Original post by AlexD14)
    "In the firing" you know we're not going to send everyone who isn't White back to Africa or Asia? You know we've campaigned for years to shed our past racist image, even allowing ethnic minorities into the party at an EGM held in 2010 where only several people out of 200 abstained or rejected the motion that if passed would allow ethnics to join. So, yeah, you're talking our your ass.
    The fact that you had to campaign to ged rid of such an image says it all really 88
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    (Original post by mathperson)
    but you see, here is another point, you have mentioned race...but I havn't.
    You have mentioned jews, but I havn't.
    Why is that?
    I'll give you the answer, because I don't care about race/religion/disability etc, I care about standing up for what is right. Whereas the politically correct care about not standing up for what is right purely in the name of being politically correct.
    It is a presupposition of nearly everyone that the BNP stands for racism and folly.

    Would you kindly tell me 'what is right'?
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    Can't believe this is still going on

    Let's just accept these guys are racist, xenophobic morons....forget trying to let them defend themselves

    I've seen a 4 year-old make a better case than some of these guys...especially so in terms of grammar/spelling

    Coolio
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    I love multiculturism! Wooooooo
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    the reason why there's a BNP society because they're attention seekers... come my freinds..I welcome you all BNP ppl to join islam..... do something wortwhile
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    Good speech by a Nationalist speaker:
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zBmmmfXeFmg
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    (Original post by Singh993)
    Can't believe this is still going on

    Let's just accept these guys are racist, xenophobic morons....forget trying to let them defend themselves

    I've seen a 4 year-old make a better case than some of these guys...especially so in terms of grammar/spelling

    Coolio
    One example of racism in this thread plesase? Because so far the rest of your claims have been false and unfounded.
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    C,mon people join the TSR BNP we will be the new alternative
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    The alternative to what?
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    (Original post by cambo211)
    The alternative to what?
    To the establishment/bourgeois parties, who lack basic patriotic feeling and any form of Nationalistic endevour.
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    (Original post by AlexD14)
    To the establishment/bourgeois parties, who lack basic patriotic feeling and any form of Nationalistic endevour.
    I wasn't aware i lacked basic patriotic feeling, thanks for informing me of this.

    If you were to gain status as a TSR party what would be your parties first aim?
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    (Original post by AlexD14)
    To the establishment/bourgeois parties, who lack basic patriotic feeling and any form of Nationalistic endevour.
    The Conservative Party is patriotic. The difference between us and the BNP, is that we don't exercise that patriotism in the the form of hatred and bigotry.
 
 
 
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