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    (Original post by ieestok)
    They have way more single rooms than shared though, so that doesn't make sense. Somebody has to get the singles. And for each hall, I've specified single rooms with shared bathroom, and specified that I won't take a shared room if there aren't any singles left in UCL-run halls. I would be very surprised if I get a shared room like you say.

    Have you actually done the application yet?

    That i have yes.

    Well thats what he told me from a small sample of 20-30 friends. Perhaps they put people in together who have 'sharer' characteristics, maybe its if you put the loud music thing up to max or the cooking thing up to max too.

    Dunno but thats what a current student has told me, could be wrong the facts certainly make it look wrong. take it or leave it really.
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    (Original post by bertiewallace123)
    That i have yes.

    Well thats what he told me from a small sample of 20-30 friends. Perhaps they put people in together who have 'sharer' characteristics, maybe its if you put the loud music thing up to max or the cooking thing up to max too.

    Dunno but thats what a current student has told me, could be wrong the facts certainly make it look wrong. take it or leave it really.

    I might ask some of the people I know at UCL what their experiences were.

    I was wondering abstractly this evening how many people the slade make offers to - if they offer 40 places and assume most people will take them/make the conditions, or if they offer more just in case, like some places do. It thought it might be fun to have an offer-holders facebook group or something, but I doubt it would find all the people haha.
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    There's one on facebook of last years freshsers, 42 poeple by the looks of it, surely if you didn't make the offer you'd leave the group?>
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    I went to CSM and did fine art for 2 years before dropping out.

    the studio space is appalling, the tutors really don't care and they are so disorganised! They think because CSM has such a high level of prestige they don't need to do anything, and are really snooty!

    I wouldn't recommend it.
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    (Original post by eei)
    Anyone heard from CSM? The wait is ridiculous. My interview was on the 5th of March. I just want to get over with it.

    When I had my CSM interview (bare in mind this was in 2010) I got an acceptance two weeks later.
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    (Original post by mariesayshello)
    When I had my CSM interview (bare in mind this was in 2010) I got an acceptance two weeks later.
    Yeah, got the offer eventually - on the 1st of April (as promised). All the CSM graduates amongst my friends and tutors agreed that you have to be very "pro-active" or nothing gets done. I knew what I'm getting myself into when accepting the offer.
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    (Original post by ksader)
    Do you have a lot of written assignments? Do you feel you are learning new skills at the workshops? Yeah I know that BBC doc was quite biased ahah
    We only have two written assignments per year (and then the dissertation in the third year). If you would like more written work and a greater emphasis on academic theory then I'd suggest looking at the joint honours course. They have more than twice the amount of written assessment (as well as more lectures). I don't use the workshops much because I'm a painter, so I basically just use the wood workshop to make canvases.
    There's definitely a lot of opportunity to learn new skills in the workshops though. I can't think of anything you can't learn there and the technicians will walk you though any processes you're considering using.

    I can't comment too much on the structer of the CSM course. I don't think they have classes, but it sounds like they do a lot of project based work. This is taken from the course outline:
    Active collaborations involving staff and students maintain a dialogue with key cultural institutions, venues, commercial enterprises and alternative approaches to introduce you to London’s networks of creative practice. Teaching frequently targets major and specialist
    galleries and museums as research bases.
    External projects bring students into collaborative relationships with outside agencies and provide experience and awareness of art practice beyond the college. Recent external projects include work with the Parasol Unit, Shoreditch, Trinity Buoy Wharf, Gunpowder Park, Lea Valley and The Archway Project in north London, the British Library, the Wellcome Foundation, The Petrie Museum and many other collections. These units help artists and students make sited artworks and temporary interventions.

    This certainly provides some good work experience opportunities and would hopefully help a lot with getting a job after graduation. It depends on whether you're looking to be more of a self-employed studio based artist or if you'd rather move towards more commission based or project work, maybe under temporary employment by different institutions.

    Goldsmiths is certainly known to be strong in terms of art research, but I can't compare this to CSM.
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    (Original post by HelveticaBold)
    We only have two written assignments per year (and then the dissertation in the third year). If you would like more written work and a greater emphasis on academic theory then I'd suggest looking at the joint honours course. They have more than twice the amount of written assessment (as well as more lectures). I don't use the workshops much because I'm a painter, so I basically just use the wood workshop to make canvases.
    There's definitely a lot of opportunity to learn new skills in the workshops though. I can't think of anything you can't learn there and the technicians will walk you though any processes you're considering using.

    I can't comment too much on the structer of the CSM course. I don't think they have classes, but it sounds like they do a lot of project based work. This is taken from the course outline:
    Active collaborations involving staff and students maintain a dialogue with key cultural institutions, venues, commercial enterprises and alternative approaches to introduce you to London’s networks of creative practice. Teaching frequently targets major and specialist
    galleries and museums as research bases.
    External projects bring students into collaborative relationships with outside agencies and provide experience and awareness of art practice beyond the college. Recent external projects include work with the Parasol Unit, Shoreditch, Trinity Buoy Wharf, Gunpowder Park, Lea Valley and The Archway Project in north London, the British Library, the Wellcome Foundation, The Petrie Museum and many other collections. These units help artists and students make sited artworks and temporary interventions.

    This certainly provides some good work experience opportunities and would hopefully help a lot with getting a job after graduation. It depends on whether you're looking to be more of a self-employed studio based artist or if you'd rather move towards more commission based or project work, maybe under temporary employment by different institutions.

    Goldsmiths is certainly known to be strong in terms of art research, but I can't compare this to CSM.
    Do you have any idea why they don't have erasmus exchange?
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    (Original post by mariesayshello)
    I went to CSM and did fine art for 2 years before dropping out.

    the studio space is appalling, the tutors really don't care and they are so disorganised! They think because CSM has such a high level of prestige they don't need to do anything, and are really snooty!

    I wouldn't recommend it.
    Did you transfer to another school or just quit definitely? I have an offer from CSM but my impression from there was that it seems quite snotty, yeah.. i'm still waiting for goldsmiths reply but i must admit I'm extremely skeptical about goldsmiths... but on the other hand they have very good facilities and studio space, good seminars and all the people that i've known that been there say it's a great school... the work in their degree shows sucks, but so does the work i've seen in CSM and Slade, so that is really subjective and depends more on the student rather than the institution... What do you think is a better bet, goldsmiths or CSM? I really like to work independently but I want to actually learn skills and not be completely "in my comfort zone".

    p.s. which pathway were you in?
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    (Original post by ksader)
    Do you have any idea why they don't have erasmus exchange?
    Sorry, I have no idea.
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    Do Goldsmiths wait until the end of the Easter holidays to get back to us now??? :confused:
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    (Original post by ggscz)
    Do Goldsmiths wait until the end of the Easter holidays to get back to us now??? :confused:
    I still haven't heard back, although they did say to me it would take two weeks so i have tomorrow until then. I wouldn't be surprised if it took them up to a month though.
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    (Original post by ggscz)
    Do Goldsmiths wait until the end of the Easter holidays to get back to us now??? :confused:
    Ive been told some people don't hear back until well into May, that's why I was surprised I heard back so early, before they even finished doing interviews. They must have really not liked me! Haha
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    Has anyone applied to Lancaster? I had offer from Goldsmiths and Lancaster and don't know how to choose. The ranking on Lancaster seems always higher than Goldsmiths but I am wondering why so little information about the fine art course in Lancaster, can someone give me some ideas?
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    (Original post by zeze)
    Has anyone applied to Lancaster? I had offer from Goldsmiths and Lancaster and don't know how to choose. The ranking on Lancaster seems always higher than Goldsmiths but I am wondering why so little information about the fine art course in Lancaster, can someone give me some ideas?
    BertieWallace123 gave a pretty good opinion on lancaster some pages ago. Here it is:

    "If you look at the size of this thread I doubt you'll get a pro Lancaster response from here.


    IMHO (bearing in mind I have never been to Lancaster uni).:

    Lancaster, judging by the entry standards, league tables etc., has a good art course. However its not, as I have been told, a good place to study fine art, largely because a) its wet b) although close to several it is not in or very near a big bustling city/hub, meaning it doesn't have a strong urban art scene (this is a generalisation of provincial towns btw). whichc brings us onto point C)that it is not highly regarded (despite its league standings and good courses).
    If good and proper teaching, value for money and the countryside on your doorstep is what you're after then Lancaster is for you.

    Slade on the other hand is contemporary cutting edge stuff (with regard to the past, not like Goldsmiths which seems to hate anything pre 20th century perhaps even prewar...) and therefore teaches (i would assume) in a more fine arty way, it disregards more classical approaches to painting like landscapes etc (is this your thing?) and likes to take a more original stance on such things. It is also very keen on taking a more scientific approach and utilising academia (it being part of UCL, a very good university that leads in the sciences).

    Regarding your being in London point, Moving outside of the all consuming metropolis you get a proper British uni experience, affordable accomodation 2nd3rd year, less debt, good learning recourses and more space to create in. however you are missing out on the 'contemporary' arts scene (if only for a few years) and all the great contacts, inspiration, oppurtunities that it provides. So you've got to get your priorities right here. I've only applied to one London course (Slade) as its the only university that provides fine art (cept Goldsmiths) and has great tutors who I find inspiring. The rest are in Uni cities and places cos I want that experience."
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    did other slade people get an email saying that they can switch to BA/BFA if they email by 1st of May? i'm very much considering switching.
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    (Original post by neworder_)
    did other slade people get an email saying that they can switch to BA/BFA if they email by 1st of May? i'm very much considering switching.

    yh i got one too, i wonder if this applies to everyone? I think I'll stick with the BA course. I want to get the most out of the Slade and UCL, yolo/cape deum etc....

    I think it might be because in the interview I said I actually wanted to do the BFA and they were like 'what?' and then I said 'maybe, dunno really...' and then they said 'well we think your work suits the BA, what with research and stuff' and then i stupidly said 'hmmm i dunno' knowing full well the BA was just my cup of tea.

    Are you leaning towards the BA neworder?
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    I think everyone got the email, they wouldn't single people out. I'm down for the BA and there's no way the BfA would suit me, or that they would think that, and I got it too
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    (Original post by bertiewallace123)
    yh i got one too, i wonder if this applies to everyone? I think I'll stick with the BA course. I want to get the most out of the Slade and UCL, yolo/cape deum etc....

    I think it might be because in the interview I said I actually wanted to do the BFA and they were like 'what?' and then I said 'maybe, dunno really...' and then they said 'well we think your work suits the BA, what with research and stuff' and then i stupidly said 'hmmm i dunno' knowing full well the BA was just my cup of tea.

    Are you leaning towards the BA neworder?
    i was wondering whether or not it was just me, because i fluffed the 'why ba/bfa' question at interview, tho i do reckon it was for everyone. i'm very sure im going to switch to BA, i didn't really know the difference between them tbh, and now that ive had time to think i'm like 90% sure im gonna switch.
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    Does anyone know much about the second year additional subject thing?

    Do we spend like a term doing it or a whole year? and will this mean we won't get any studio time?

    I hope its like half a year, a whole year in another subject might derail the art a little,
 
 
 
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