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England has to pay £7.40 prescription charges, rest of UK don't. WHY? watch

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    (Original post by kevin6767)
    For me it gets quite expensive, I am asthmatic and have to pay £14.80 a month for inhalers. I don't think it is fair that some chronic diseases are given priority over others, if I was diabetic for instance I would get medication for free. I was born with asthma and there is little I can do about it but some people's life styles lead them to become ill and they are given more/free help. It simply isn't fair.
    Sorry but you do realise you can pay for a prescription prepayment certificates if its a long term problem. if you get the year one you'll only have to pay around 9 quid per month so you can save a bit of money.
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    (Original post by lightburns)
    I spend money on accommodation and bills, sure. But outside of that, £15-25 a week. On everything, that is - food, entertainment, toothpaste, whatever. So yes, the fact that I will have to pay £88.80 a year (as soon as I'm 19) on medication is fairly significant.
    You could get a job?

    £1.70 a week on your health is really not a lot. And how much do you spend on "entertainment"?
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    I suppose we'll just sacrifice more of our world-leading cancer research funding?
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    (Original post by lightburns)
    I spend money on accommodation and bills, sure. But outside of that, £15-25 a week. On everything, that is - food, entertainment, toothpaste, whatever. So yes, the fact that I will have to pay £88.80 a year (as soon as I'm 19) on medication is fairly significant.


    Really, I spend about €400 a year on prescriptions alone. I also spend about another €220 on GP visits. Thank God my parents pay my €800 health insurance, but €620 of my own money is far worse than your expenditure. Think yourself lucky.
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    (Original post by HedonisticMe)
    ****SAKE.

    I'm not going to bother reading every page- so forgive me if this obvious fact has already been stated.

    Currently, 9/10 of our prescription charges are covered on the NHS- stop being mislead by deceitful propoganda.
    Could it be that those who have to pay are less likely to go for problems compared to those who get free.
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    EDIT: Cut out incorrect bit. Sorry LowRider. <3

    (Original post by Pink Bullets)
    You could get a job?

    £1.70 a week on your health is really not a lot. And how much do you spend on "entertainment"?
    No, I'll just keep going cheapskate. I'd like a job, but I've never worked before which makes it less likely I'll get one, and all the ads I've seen are many hours, whereas I'd like one day a week max!
    Entertainment.. well let's count up >everything< I've spent on entertainment since September. 2 new DVDs, several games, almost all second hand / special offer. I buy one every 2-3 months I reckon.. One trip to the cinema. I don't think that's too out of order for 'entertainment', seeing as many people buy alcohol, go clubbing, go out to eat, or go on trips to the cinema all the time. :/

    It's just really irritating to know that I've got that going out through no fault of my own when other places in Britain get it free. I know it's illogical to be annoyed just because others are more fortunate. But I am. So there.
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    (Original post by StarsAreFixed)
    Really, I spend about €400 a year on prescriptions alone. I also spend about another €220 on GP visits. Thank God my parents pay my €800 health insurance, but €620 of my own money is far worse than your expenditure. Think yourself lucky.
    Without getting into the backstory of what's gone on with me, I've been waiting for four years for surgery. I either have to go back and talk to the random man who wanted to know the details of what it feels like to masturbate and what kind of pr0n I'm into (and get surgery in god knows how many years in the future), or shell out £5,000. Not to mention the fact that I have paid £120 every 3 months to see a private guy because the NHS guy I saw would just talk about runescape rather than dealing with my problems.

    Wow, are we really trying to outdo eachother on how screwed we are paying for our medical treatment? Go us! heh. Hope you get your stuff sorted out anyways...
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    (Original post by lightburns)
    I'm not quite 19 yet, so still free so haven't looked up this kind of thing.

    Anyway, "If you will have to pay for four or more prescription items in three months, or more than 14 items in 12 month" http://www.nhsbsa.nhs.uk/1127.aspx. I will have 1 item per month...


    No, I'll just keep going cheapskate. I'd like a job, but I've never worked before which makes it less likely I'll get one, and all the ads I've seen are many hours, whereas I'd like one day a week max!
    Entertainment.. well let's count up >everything< I've spent on entertainment since September. 2 new DVDs, several games, almost all second hand / special offer. I buy one every 2-3 months I reckon.. One trip to the cinema. I don't think that's too out of order for 'entertainment', seeing as many people buy alcohol, go clubbing, go out to eat, or go on trips to the cinema all the time. :/

    It's just really irritating to know that I've got that going out through no fault of my own when other places in Britain get it free. I know it's illogical to be annoyed just because others are more fortunate. But I am. So there.
    ok? why did you say "I am asthmatic and have to pay £14.80 a month for inhalers" then.
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    (Original post by LowRider)
    ok? why did you say "I am asthmatic and have to pay £14.80 a month for inhalers" then.
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    Oh whoops! My mistake! I quoted you thinking you were quoting me and you weren't! I'm sorry! I suck. I'm going to pos rep you to say sorry!
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    (Original post by lightburns)
    Without getting into the backstory of what's gone on with me, I've been waiting for four years for surgery. I either have to go back and talk to the random man who wanted to know the details of what it feels like to masturbate and what kind of pr0n I'm into (and get surgery in god knows how many years in the future), or shell out £5,000. Not to mention the fact that I have paid £120 every 3 months to see a private guy because the NHS guy I saw would just talk about runescape rather than dealing with my problems.

    Wow, are we really trying to outdo eachother on how screwed we are paying for our medical treatment? Go us! heh. Hope you get your stuff sorted out anyways...
    What the hell...
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    (Original post by lightburns)
    Without getting into the backstory of what's gone on with me, I've been waiting for four years for surgery. I either have to go back and talk to the random man who wanted to know the details of what it feels like to masturbate and what kind of pr0n I'm into (and get surgery in god knows how many years in the future), or shell out £5,000. Not to mention the fact that I have paid £120 every 3 months to see a private guy because the NHS guy I saw would just talk about runescape rather than dealing with my problems.

    Wow, are we really trying to outdo eachother on how screwed we are paying for our medical treatment? Go us! heh. Hope you get your stuff sorted out anyways...

    I will be paying this for the rest of my life, those are permanent prescriptions. The prices keep going up >.> I hope you get your situation sorted out! I just think it's important to know that plenty of countries have much worse and more expensive health systems.
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    (Original post by lightburns)
    Not to mention the fact that I have paid £120 every 3 months to see a private guy because the NHS guy I saw would just talk about runescape rather than dealing with my problems.
    Thats a bit stupid.
    You know you can see a different doctor if you want to?
    Or even register at a totally different surgery?

    Seems a huge waste of money for pay that much to see a private doctor just because the one NHS GP you saw was an idiot.
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    (Original post by Hippysnake)
    Because they suffer from the crippling ailments that are being Scottish/Welsh/Irish.
    "You have reached the limit of how many posts you can rate today!"

    Love this! +1
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    (Original post by doggyfizzel)
    Assuming Scottish and Welsh people get ill just as often as English, and require the same treatment when they do get ill, how is the cost per person any different? If a person in Scotland gets cancer they still require the same treatment, the same machines and number of staff as someone in England, and the same costs are associated, if anything its more expensive as specialist equipement is used less often. Scotland is no special case, you can't afford to offer free prescriptions in England as there is no one to foot the bill, in Scotland the English foot the bill.
    Here we go again.
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    (Original post by Prime500)
    Alba gu bràth
    I love how I know what that means despite not knowing a word of Scottish Gaelic.
    Considering the prior widespread use of celtic languages throughout these islands (in England itself too), its kind of sad the language that took hold was English.

    Cymru Am Byth
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    (Original post by Prime500)
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    I would like to point out that article you have used as proof, is one study. The previous studies don't show that. At the bottom it also adds the increases are not supported by all. That article also doesn't make clear whether those oil figures are from would be Scottish territorial waters, or UK territorial waters. If Scotland were independent oil and gas from UK territorial waters would incur taxation even if they were transported to Scotland.

    I read the budget surplus would be around £800M if Scotland were independent. As far as I am aware, things like Defence come out of the UK national budget, so and independent Scotland would have to fund these things itself. Seeing as the UK budget for that is £45bn+ I don't think it takes everything into account.

    Scottish oil and gas isn't something to rely on either, seeing as its production peaked a long time ago. Production is falling and extraction becomes more expensive as this happens, rising prices countering this only rings true if world oil production falls at the same rate, which isn't happening. Without oil and gas Scotlands GDP is below £20K per capita. Wheras the UK average is ~£40k.

    I'm not jealous I just think we should have the same access to services and education across the UK, doing otherwise is going to lead to mismatches based upon your postcode.
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    Rip-off...
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    (Original post by doggyfizzel)
    I would like to point out that article you have used as proof, is one study. The previous studies don't show that. At the bottom it also adds the increases are not supported by all. That article also doesn't make clear whether those oil figures are from would be Scottish territorial waters, or UK territorial waters. If Scotland were independent oil and gas from UK territorial waters would incur taxation even if they were transported to Scotland.

    I read the budget surplus would be around £800M if Scotland were independent. As far as I am aware, things like Defence come out of the UK national budget, so and independent Scotland would have to fund these things itself. Seeing as the UK budget for that is £45bn+ I don't think it takes everything into account.

    Scottish oil and gas isn't something to rely on either, seeing as its production peaked a long time ago. Production is falling and extraction becomes more expensive as this happens, rising prices countering this only rings true if world oil production falls at the same rate, which isn't happening. Without oil and gas Scotlands GDP is below £20K per capita. Wheras the UK average is ~£40k.

    I'm not jealous I just think we should have the same access to services and education across the UK, doing otherwise is going to lead to mismatches based upon your postcode.

    "I read the budget surplus would be around £800M if Scotland were independent."


    Pure conjecture.
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    (Original post by Prime500)
    You have offered no proof whatsoever of what you say.

    "I read the budget surplus would be around £800M if Scotland were independent."


    Pure conjecture.

    You also say that:

    "I'm not jealous I just think we should have the same access to services and education across the UK, doing otherwise is going to lead to mismatches based upon your postcode."

    Well in that case, I can therefore assume that you feel equally as angry about the manner in which English institutions have treated certain English students based on their own geographic location for years?

    http://www.exeter.ac.uk/undergraduate/money/fees/

    http://www3.imperial.ac.uk/registry/...es#maincontent

    I could include any number of links, but it is plain to see. If you scroll down, you will see that many English institutions have charged English students from the Isle of Man, and Channel Islands international fees for years. Is that not grossly unfair? Why is this not widely reported, that students who are English are treated as International students by being charged the full International fee rates? To say that this is a "...mismatch based upon your postcode" is something of an understatement, is it not?

    People who live in glass houses...
    You are so obviously bitter is it unreal.

    The £800m figue comes from the government study mentioned in the article you posted. I didn't post it as neither are proof. http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/scotland/7465840.stm

    You assume that I don't feel the same, because it is convenient for your argument. I wouldn't have brought it up as its not part of the OP.

    The Channel Islands argument is also stupid. Why do we have international rates? They don't pay into our tax system. The Channel Island's also don't have the same tax laws, which is why companies like Amazon & Play.com have operations there.
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    (Original post by doggyfizzel)
    You are so obviously bitter is it unreal.

    The £800m figue comes from the government study mentioned in the article you posted. I didn't post it as neither are proof. http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/scotland/7465840.stm

    You assume that I don't feel the same, because it is convenient for your argument. I wouldn't have brought it up as its not part of the OP.

    The Channel Islands argument is also stupid. Why do we have international rates? They don't pay into our tax system. The Channel Island's also don't have the same tax laws, which is why companies like Amazon & Play.com have operations there.
    I really think you ought to take this up with David Cameron, not with me.

    Scotland/Wales/Northern Ireland can allocate expenditure on whatever they wish, and no amount of braindead scapegoat hunting will change that.
 
 
 
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