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England has to pay £7.40 prescription charges, rest of UK don't. WHY? watch

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    (Original post by RollerBall)
    What the hell...
    Yeah.. That's what I thought :/ I'm not sure if this is true, but I heard they all charge the NHS £500-700 an hour for their precious time.

    (Original post by StarsAreFixed)
    I will be paying this for the rest of my life, those are permanent prescriptions. The prices keep going up >.> I hope you get your situation sorted out! I just think it's important to know that plenty of countries have much worse and more expensive health systems.
    I can complain about the NHS all I like, but the fact is, as long as my next doctor is as good I will still get the meds on NHS. Many countries in Europe (I think the ones like Germany and Netherlands) would have treated me much better. But then again, if I was in USA, I would have to pay £60 a month for the medication. So yes, I'm certainly not in the worst position.

    (Original post by WelshBluebird)
    Thats a bit stupid.
    You know you can see a different doctor if you want to?
    Or even register at a totally different surgery?

    Seems a huge waste of money for pay that much to see a private doctor just because the one NHS GP you saw was an idiot.
    Oh no, my GP is fine. My GP has been really good throughout the whole thing. It's the specialist people who have been pricks.
    And no, there is no possibility of being seen at another place. You are only allowed to be seen at the nearest place.
    So I just had to live with it when I was referred to a paediatric endocrinologist (that's for children) when I hit 18. When I should have got there a year or two before. They just didn't give a s*.

    By seeing the private guy I have got the meds just in time for uni - meaning that almost no-one in uni knows about my condition. If I hadn't got them, it would have been very obvious to everyone. . Not to mention how it was unliveable, depression and all that shiz. The NHS told me that if my condition was so bad that it made me unhappy, then they wouldn't treat the cause, the condition, until I was happy. And what's the only way you know that the condition is serious and needs to be dealt with? Makes you horrifically depressed. So if you are depressed, won't be treated. If you're not depressed, you don't need to be treated! I was sick of this stupid game.
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    (Original post by Prime500)
    What am I bitter about exactly?

    I'm not the one trying to somehow blame another country for the shortcomings of my own.

    You're the one with post after post about how unfair this is, and how Scotland/Wales/Northern Ireland are somehow at fault because English people have to pay for prescriptions.

    I really think you ought to take this up with David Cameron, not with me.

    Scotland/Wales/Northern Ireland can allocate expenditure on whatever they wish, and no amount of braindead scapegoat hunting ****e spouted on forums like this will change that.
    I have no idea what maybe you weren't cuddled enough as a child?

    Its you who posts things like this.
    "But of course, every English person on TSR skulks around with a chip on their shoulder, crying like little *****es"

    Post after post, I made 2, other than that it is people quoting me. I have only looked back at this thread because you keep quoting me.

    You started this conversation, now you don't want me to take it up with you? Well don't bother quoting me.
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    (Original post by doggyfizzel)
    I have no idea what maybe you weren't cuddled enough as a child?

    Its you who posts things like this.
    "But of course, every English person on TSR skulks around with a chip on their shoulder, crying like little *****es"

    Post after post, I made 2, other than that it is people quoting me. I have only looked back at this thread because you keep quoting me.

    You started this conversation, now you don't want me to take it up with you? Well don't bother quoting me.
    Then do not make unfounded, baseless, and entirely untrue statements about how England "foots the bill" for Scotland, because it is absolute horse****.
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    (Original post by j.laurence)
    Because Cameron is a ****.
    You know that it was Labour that devolved power to Scotland and Wales, right? This has nothing to do with Cameron at all.

    Anyway, I think that it's time for the Union to be dissolved. We don't need Scotland or Wales - they can go their own way.
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    (Original post by Prime500)
    Then do not make unfounded, baseless, and entirely untrue statements about how England "foots the bill" for Scotland, because it is absolute horse****.
    Its baseless, but you have disproved it with 1 bias article which conveniently misses out the figures for the other side of the argument, which I then found, but its still baseless.

    The fact you seem to think you have won this little debate shows you haven't read what I have posted or what you have posted. You posted 1 argument, I posted a counter, you said I had no proof, I posted proof, now you have won, and I should stop complaining about something that posted a week ago and you brought up, and take it with Cameron? Nice, I truly never stood a chance.
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    I think (so don't quote me on this) it said at the news when this was announced about England now being the only one with prescription fees something like the difference comes when the English health service is able to pay for more cancer drugs and lower waiting times before you can be seen, etc. It does all supposedly balance out!
    (Don't hate on me!)
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    (Original post by lightburns)
    Yeah.. That's what I thought :/ I'm not sure if this is true, but I heard they all charge the NHS £500-700 an hour for their precious time.
    I was more kind of what the hell at the talking to a stranger about masturbating then talking to a specialist about runescape.

    If you don't mind me asking, I'm intrigued as to what your condition is. I'm a medical student and I'm trying to figure out what condition would require anything like that. It's endocrine, so it's hormonal.. Hmm.. If you don't want to say you could always PM me, if you don't want to even tell me by PM I'm fine as well, was just curious.
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    (Original post by Pink Bullets)
    I bet most of the people complaining would think nothing of spending £20+ to get drunk on a single night out.

    £7.40 is nothing, and people who are genuinely impoverished don't have to pay.
    I don't understand how that's relevant. Why can't people spend their money on what they want? The NHS is supposed to be a free service and it's not fair that certain people should have to pay.
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    (Original post by PocketChange)
    It isn’t unfair at all. In England 9 out of 10 prescriptions are already handed out free anyway. England has its own perks such as:

    The recently opened 90 drop-in-care centres in England, which there are none of in Scotland.
    Just out of interest, what kind of medical conditions do these drop-in care centres cater for? The reason I ask is that I wasn't aware of such centres opening recently in England.
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    (Original post by RollerBall)
    I was more kind of what the hell at the talking to a stranger about masturbating then talking to a specialist about runescape.

    If you don't mind me asking, I'm intrigued as to what your condition is. I'm a medical student and I'm trying to figure out what condition would require anything like that. It's endocrine, so it's hormonal.. Hmm.. If you don't want to say you could always PM me, if you don't want to even tell me by PM I'm fine as well, was just curious.
    I'll PM you just because there's a variety of arguments I can't be bothered to get into that would inevitably start if I talked about it on this thread.

    Needless to say, there was no reason to talk about runescape and masturbation. It was just because the specialists could give a s*, and knew I had nowhere else to go, so they could do whatever the hell they liked.
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    (Original post by doggyfizzel)
    Its baseless, but you have disproved it with 1 bias article which conveniently misses out the figures for the other side of the argument, which I then found, but its still baseless.

    The fact you seem to think you have won this little debate shows you haven't read what I have posted or what you have posted. You posted 1 argument, I posted a counter, you said I had no proof, I posted proof, now you have won, and I should stop complaining about something that posted a week ago and you brought up, and take it with Cameron? Nice, I truly never stood a chance.
    I see no proof whatsoever of England footing the bill for Scotland.
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    (Original post by Prime500)
    You said "in Scotland the English foot the bill." You then posted a link to an article which proves that, should Scotland have a geographical share of North Sea Oil, that it could maintain current levels of expenditure with an £837 million surplus. You then consistently refer to "Defence" as being a reason why this would not be sufficient. However, why £837million would be insufficient for defence I do not know, as a contribution of 0.7% of GDP for the defence of a country of approximately 5.3 million people seems altogether reasonable to me.
    Do you have any idea what consistently means? I used it once as an example of the large portion of spending which it is not accounting for, its not just that alone. 0.7% of GPD is below the spending levels of Indonesia, Bangladesh, and Nigeria, huge military powers they are. They do have larger populations, but even Norway similar population, a country with a history of neutrality, has a 1.6% spend, £3.8bn spending in total. The UK currently spends 2.7%. That is only for the defence portion.

    You haven't read the article you have a select portion that suits your argument then stopped.

    Here a some parts you haven't read or have glazed over.

    "However, if the country was to receive its per capita share of North Sea revenues in line with the rest of the UK, it would have a deficit of £6bn."
    You have assumed it would receive its geographical allocation, not its per capita. Why shouldn't "national" resources be allocated per capita? You have assumed to rosiest of situations.

    "the accompanying study only runs until 2013 and ignores the North Sea oil decommissioning costs, which might well produce much smaller or even negative oil tax revenues in later years." Pretty short term, and not accounting for costs soon to be encountered, as shown below.

    "production has declined by 42% since 1999 and is forecasted to keep declining by around 5% a year." The department of energy states we have extracted 70% of oil reserves already, seeing as the first well was drilled in 1964 and extraction methods are only going to get better, its hardly a long term source of revenue.
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    (Original post by kevin6767)
    Actually I don't think I can. The pharmacist told me you need to have 4 or prescriptions a month.
    Maybe your misheard its 4 or more in 3 months .

    You can buy online at a registered pharmacy or over the phone.
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    (Original post by deadwing)
    I don't understand how that's relevant. Why can't people spend their money on what they want? The NHS is supposed to be a free service and it's not fair that certain people should have to pay.
    They can. They don't have to buy their medicine if going clubbing is more important to them. In the real world, sometimes you have to spend your money on things that aren't necessarily fun and exciting, or else forego those things. That's life for you.
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    (Original post by psychocustard)
    Theoretically, it's awesome for us in Wales and Scotland.

    HOWEVER

    it means there are so many more people demanding prescriptions for silly things like coughs, colds and flu, and it's costing millions. Yes, Some people should get free prescriptions, but certainly not all.
    I love my free prescriptions. I wouldn't bother asking for a prescription if I didn't need it, you can get cough syrup and painkillers over the counter. Prozac and industrial strength moisturiser you can't.
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    (Original post by hippieglitter)
    I love my free prescriptions. I wouldn't bother asking for a prescription if I didn't need it, you can get cough syrup and painkillers over the counter. Prozac and industrial strength moisturiser you can't.
    That's fine, but there are some people who really do take the piss with it. My doctor was telling me how people are in there demanding prescriptions for the smallest thing. My mum has a lot of free stuff because she's diabetic and some other bits and pieces, but some people just make me facepalm.
 
 
 
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