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    Alot of people are claiming that USA, UK and France are in Libya because of the Oil. But how do these countries actually steal it without anybody noticing it? Thanks.
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    They don't. They construct a political situation that allows companies to extract the oil at cut-price levels.

    They don't hide it in their suitcases and take it from the country. They use their powerful economies to exploit smaller, more corrupt ones.
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    They hide it in their pockets.
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    (Original post by Wilzman)
    They don't. They construct a political situation that allows companies to extract the oil at cut-price levels.

    They don't hide it in their suitcases and take it from the country. They use their powerful economies to exploit smaller, more corrupt ones.
    So that would make it obvious? Is it obvious?
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    (Original post by Munchies-YumYum)
    So that would make it obvious? Is it obvious?
    Depends what you define as obvious. It's obvious if the media reports on it.
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    (Original post by Wilzman)
    Depends what you define as obvious. It's obvious if the media reports on it.
    Obvious as to see those companies extracting the oil?
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    Break up a country's infrastructure saying it is necessary to get rid of a dictator (some truth in that, usually). Offer to help rebuild it in return for cut price or free oil. You essentially put them in a bad situation and help them out of it in return for oil (or some other payment).

    Also you can demand oil for the running of your army. Plus a bit extra 'just in case'. Plus a bit extra if you keep it hush hush and we bribe you.
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    (Original post by Hopple)
    Break up a country's infrastructure saying it is necessary to get rid of a dictator (some truth in that, usually). Offer to help rebuild it in return for cut price or free oil. You essentially put them in a bad situation and help them out of it in return for oil (or some other payment).

    Also you can demand oil for the running of your army. Plus a bit extra 'just in case'. Plus a bit extra if you keep it hush hush and we bribe you.
    What if the country doesn't take their offer?
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    (Original post by Munchies-YumYum)
    Obvious as to see those companies extracting the oil?
    To physically see them removing the oil, yes it is obvious. The infrastructure, manpower and materiel involved is quite large and obvious.
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    They smuggle hundreds of masked men with empty barrels into the country. Usually through tunnels (many are half-mole)
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    (Original post by Munchies-YumYum)
    What if the country doesn't take their offer?
    Then they find a country who does. In this case, Libya wanted help.
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    Well sometimes you get 'common pools' around borders of countries and there are agreements in place about how much each country is allowed to pump out and at what rate. If you just have a free for all and both pump as fast as you can then you lose pressure and it become harder for both parties to extract.

    This was one of the issues which led up to the first Gulf War in 1990-1. During the 1980s Iraq and Iran were at war, and the Iraqis were loaned money from other fellow Arab states like Kuwait who didn't like Iran and hoped Saddam would take care of them. By 1988 the war ended in deadlock so Saddam had nothing to show for his long war except large debts which he was having to pay off through oil revenues as Iraq was an oil exporter.

    However the Iraqi oil companies then started reporting that one of the pools around the border that had been designated to them, was being siphoned off by the Kuwaitis. Also the Kuwaitis were exporting a lot of oil at the time which was pushing the price of oil down and making it harder for Iraq to pay off their debts. Iraq had been annoyed at Kuwait for many years because when the state of Kuwait was created by the British, the Iraqis felt they'd been done a bad deal in terms of borders. So Saddam, having failed in Iran, knew that Kuwait only had a small army and was no match for Iraq, so he went in and invaded. He also calculated at the time that the US would criticise but wouldn't actually go in because they feared another Vietnam, but the US panicked that Saddam now controlled a substantial amount of Gulf oil and was within striking range of going in to Saudi Arabia...they also knew he was stacked up with weaponry that he'd been provided with during the war with Iran, so he could have overrun Saudi Arabia if necessary. The rest of the world went in to Saudi Arabia ASAP and ended up pushing Saddam back out of Kuwait because they knew he was unstable and at that time he could have ended up having the fate of the world's economy in his hands...he was a far more dangerous proposition in 1991 than he was in 2003 with the false crap about WMDs.
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    (Original post by Hopple)
    Then they find a country who does. In this case, Libya wanted help.
    How does that make sense?

    "You essentially put them in a bad situation and help them out of it in return for oil (or some other payment)."

    That's not the best plan then if the country can decline their help...
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    (Original post by Munchies-YumYum)
    How does that make sense?

    "You essentially put them in a bad situation and help them out of it in return for oil (or some other payment)."

    That's not the best plan then if the country can decline their help...
    You don't offer them that. You say "We'll help get rid of Gaddafi/Saddam", and in the process muck up their infrastructure. I'm not saying it's deliberate, but then you ask for oil in return for protecting them and helping them rebuild.
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    (Original post by Hopple)
    You don't offer them that. You say "We'll help get rid of Gaddafi/Saddam", and in the process muck up their infrastructure. I'm not saying it's deliberate, but then you ask for oil in return for protecting them and helping them rebuild.
    And you would say that to Gaddafi himself or who exactly?
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    1. Set up puppet government
    2. Said 'government' magically awards all oil contracts to your companies
    3. ??????
    4. PROFIT!
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    Economic hitmen. :ninja:
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    (Original post by Nick Longjohnson)
    1. Set up puppet government
    2. Said 'government' magically awards all oil contracts to your companies
    3. ??????
    4. PROFIT!
    Well, that didn't happen in Iraq.
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    In the night, using a team of masked men and women.
 
 
 
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