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    Right, firstly, this is just a debate. Second, I'm going to focus more on Western and Northern Europe as I don't know the attitudes of East and Southern Europe as much.

    Anyway, don't you think sex has the wrong idea here? This is going to be quite long, but I'll put a TL;DR in orange:

    You walk into a film shop. Blockbusters, a corner DVD shop, whatever. You buy a film about a man with a chainsaw cutting people to pieces. There's nothing wrong with this. Hell, I've watched such films.
    However, you walk into a shop (probably more the latter option here, as far as I'm aware, Blockbusters' pornography section is minimal at best) and you buy a porn DVD. You'd get stares from everyone.
    Why is that sex, as such a common thing, is more taboo then a video of someone cutting people into pieces? (Generally in the UK, over more Western and Northern European countries - For the purpose of TL;DR).

    I don't know if that makes as much sense to you as it does to me writing it, but does anyone else find this a tad odd?

    This seems to be the general norm in Britain. Sex, porn, etc seem to be such a taboo thing in open talking. Whereas in more Northern European Countries, and countries like Holland are renowned for their openness to sex, porn and education about them.

    Let me give you three examples:

    1) I'm half-Dutch, I often go and see my Dad who lives there with his new family. When I was over there last, I met this girl. Later that night, I was at a pub with my Dad, and we were talking about this girl and he initiated a really open, basically "the talk", conversation about sex. I was shocked that, not only was he talking about this in a very open way, but in a public place too.

    2) There is a sex museum in Copenhagen in Denmark. I could go into details, but I don't want to deter those who don't like reading much.

    3) A friend of mine went to Norway, met a Norwegian girl and went back to hers, her mother said to them, "Here, do you want this big bed? Its much more comfy, and we'll leave the pair of you alone". And he'd only known her for a few hours.

    So yeah, doesn't this strike you as a bit odd?

    Its also interesting to note that these countries have the lowest STI, STD and Teenage Pregnancy statistics at least in Europe. Probably a good majority of the world, too.

    [TL;DR] Many of us, in Britain, find sex a really awkward subject to talk about with our families, or openly talk about to adults, etc. Yet we can happily buy DVDs that show what people don't do regularly, with massively graphic content. Whereas in these countries, its as openly talked about as it gets.

    And just so I'm not generalizing; I do think its leveling out more now. Friends openly talk about it, "the talk" is often brought up and there is more information from Youth Organisations and Schools about sex, etc.

    But yeah, your views? I just found it quite interesting, but then again, I'm kind'a odd like that.
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    I find it odd too, it isn't such a taboo at dads as he high fives me when ever I bring a girl back, ah French papa's nor is it a problem at mums but she doesn't high five I also like the fact that you can walk down the street and see all these "adverts" in Europe but over here, you see something like this and people will kick up a fuss.

    I guess it is just the different cultures as the British seem to be less liberal with a fair few things to which most in EU are more liberal... look at Italy and their attitudes to sex
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    I've got to admit I do think that sex should be talked about more openly, but in a tasteful manner. It's not just up to teachers though; parents should realise that their primary role as a parent is to teach their children - especially about how they came into the world It'd be nice to hear an unbiased view on sex too as opposed to either "SEX IS EVIL ONLY HAVE IT AFTER MARRIAGE OR YOU'LL DIEEEE" or "yeah, whatever, have a bone"
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    Ah, this reminds me of the time I transported a blow-up doll on Germany's trains...
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    If you watch porn, you get ideas you can actually try out and people don't want that image in their head. If you watch Rambo films and try it yourself, people will get a laugh when you can't aim your arrow-bomb properly and blow up your own house.
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    Sex isn't really spoken about in Italy. Catholic and all.
    I was reading an Italian newspaper recently and there was a survey about young people and what they knew about contraception and about sex in general. Something like over 2/3 of people under 25 who have had unprotected sex had never been for an STD check . And 1/4 had never used protection at all.
    I reckon they need to talk about it!

    My family being very very Catholic has never spoken to me about sex.
    The 'talk' involved my mother saying 'Erika, no sex before marriage', then she literally ran out of the room.
    But tbh if she ever talked to me about it, I think I would die a little.

    I went to a catholic secondary school and they weren't allowed to give us 'the sex talk', the amount of period talks though was disturbing...
    Several people also got expelled for being pregnant.

    I think it's always going to be a taboo subject tbh.
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    (Original post by TheSownRose)
    Ah, this reminds me of the time I transported a blow-up doll on Germany's trains...
    That sounds like an interesting story....

    Do share.
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    (Original post by tehFrance)
    I find it odd too, it isn't such a taboo at dads as he high fives me when ever I bring a girl back, ah French papa's nor is it a problem at mums but she doesn't high five I also like the fact that you can walk down the street and see all these "adverts" in Europe but over here, you see something like this and people will kick up a fuss.

    I guess it is just the different cultures as the British seem to be less liberal with a fair few things to which most in EU are more liberal... look at Italy and their attitudes to sex
    This I LOL'd at. :rofl:

    But seriously, that's what I mean. It seems that the rest of Western and Northern Europe (mostly) shares this view. Whereas Britain is like, "Well, do we really want to talk this over?"

    Again, I agree, seeing it so openly talked and shown speaks for its own results. The lowest STD and STI rates in Europe (and again, probably most of the World) and the lowest teenage pregnancies? They're doing something right, and I don't think conserving that knowledge from parents to children is the answer in the UK.

    My Mum's a Youth Worker, and my Dad being Dutch, I was told about all this. But again, I do feel its becoming less of a touchy subject within our society at least.

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    (Original post by hamijack)
    That sounds like an interesting story....

    Do share.
    It wasn't really, nothing eventful happened. I just spent the whole journey scared ****less that it would inflate at some stage, thus identifying me to the other passengers as some sort of sexual deviant.

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    By the way, it wasn't for me - I was collecting it for a relative in some German town and taking it with me to his house. If I was going that way anyway, seemed stupid for him to pay postage costs.
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    (Original post by EmmaJayne.x)
    I've got to admit I do think that sex should be talked about more openly, but in a tasteful manner. It's not just up to teachers though; parents should realise that their primary role as a parent is to teach their children - especially about how they came into the world It'd be nice to hear an unbiased view on sex too as opposed to either "SEX IS EVIL ONLY HAVE IT AFTER MARRIAGE OR YOU'LL DIEEEE" or "yeah, whatever, have a bone"
    I agree. :yep:

    I can't remember who told me this, but they said that two people (one of whom they knew quite well) went to a Doctors saying that his girlfriend wasn't getting pregnant. The Doctor then asked something, and somehow it lead onto how they were having sex.

    The guy was having sex with her ear. But no one had told him or her differently.

    Granted, this is an extreme case; but it begs the question that we are, most of us, too scared to talk about it to our children or pupils.
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    (Original post by DH-Biker)
    The guy was having sex with her ear.
    :eek: Surely one of them must of watched porn, this would of been resolved sharpish no?
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    well i never knew there was a porn section in blockbusters
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    can I have the dr;tl version please? :P
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    I'm not sure why British attitudes to sex, porn, etc are so at odds with our attitudes to things like violent films, but I do agree that they're odd. Perhaps they're just relics of a past, stiff-upper-lip, imperial age that most people would say we've grown out of? :dontknow:
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    (Original post by tehFrance)
    :eek: Surely one of them must of watched porn, this would of been resolved sharpish no?
    Apparently not.

    I can't confirm the validity of this story, but to be honest, after actually hearing a parent say to their son whilst I was around, "Oh, you don't need to know about sex" when the guy and I were both 16, kind of confirms that this could happen.

    I of course told him what really happened, but his mother apparently felt so horrid talking about that subject, she figured she'd let him find out on his own.

    Which is all well and good, and sometimes works, but if the case of the man ****ing the girl's ear is true... Well, clearly there are problems.

    I wonder what the Doctor was thinking when they told him how they had sex...
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    (Original post by cema1)
    well i never knew there was a porn section in blockbusters
    T'was a joke. Haha!
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    Agreed, Northern Europe definitely has the right idea. Just look back 100 years though and you can see our attitude towards sex is changing rapidly, so we shouldn't feel to bad, we're making progress.
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    I went to Catholic school lawl.

    We didn't even have sex ed, outside of 'abstinence'. Hahaha whatajoke.

    I think once we had sex ed, like mandatory all the schools in the borough had to have it.. a proper sex education session, and our head of RS complained to the council about it. :rofl:
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    (Original post by TheSownRose)
    It wasn't really, nothing eventful happened. I just spent the whole journey scared ****less that it would inflate at some stage, thus identifying me to the other passengers as some sort of sexual deviant.

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    By the way, it wasn't for me - I was collecting it for a relative in some German town and taking it with me to his house. If I was going that way anyway, seemed stupid for him to pay postage costs.
    Ah, that is less interesting than it originally sounded.
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    I agree, why is pornography banned from games and films and something ever so slightly deemed too explicit causes an uproar, yet people getting their guts ripped out and being shown slowly getting tortured to death (e.g. Saw) can be shown in normal cinemas? If it was film with a real life sex scene the cinema would get boycotted and labelled "seedy".

    On the topic of Amsterdam, when I was there I realised the topic of sex was so open compared to here, we were in this shop for about 5 minutes and the shopkeeper casually made a joke about me having sex with one of my friends I was with (not my girlfriend). To us, it was really funny but I wonder what the reaction of one of the TSR prudes would have been :lol:

    It's incredibly refreshing to see that sex in some places is viewed as a non-taboo and completely normal thing to talk about, that we can all have a laugh about.
 
 
 
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