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    (Original post by hamijack)
    Ah, that is less interesting than it originally sounded.
    I did tell you. This only reminds me of that because it later occured to me that such an event would embarrass me far more than a lot of the other passengers.
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    (Original post by TheSownRose)
    It wasn't really, nothing eventful happened. I just spent the whole journey scared ****less that it would inflate at some stage, thus identifying me to the other passengers as some sort of sexual deviant.

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    By the way, it wasn't for me - I was collecting it for a relative in some German town and taking it with me to his house. If I was going that way anyway, seemed stupid for him to pay postage costs.
    That's what they all say.
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    I'd hate to have my parents offer me a "big, comfy bed, and we'll leave the two of you alone". Instant boner killer.
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    (Original post by DH-Biker)

    The guy was having sex with her ear.
    So... she heard him coming?

    Bet that it made her prick up her ears, lucky she didn't end up with hearing A.I.D.S.
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    It makes me so happy to see a thread like this; I've been b*tching wondering about the fact that consensual sex, a natural act that does no one any harm (usually), is seen to be as offensive as an act of violence which causes a great deal of harm.

    I also find it totally bizarre how offensive people find nudity. It's just anatomy, after all. I can understand being self-conscious about one's body and not wanting other people to see it but censoring a nude scene or only allowing people of a certain age to view it seems ridiculous. In what society is a topless woman considered as harmful for a child to view as someone being beaten to death?
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    (Original post by drukarale)
    So... she heard him coming?

    Bet that it made her prick up her ears, lucky she didn't end up with hearing A.I.D.S.
    That, was genius. You kind of lost the humor on the second one, but brought it right back with the third.

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    I never got "the talk" from parents or school, but as I've got older my mam has started discussing her sex life with me.
    Not what I want to hear, especially as she's still married to my dad. ¬.¬
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    (Original post by KissMyArtichoke)
    Agreed, Northern Europe definitely has the right idea. Just look back 100 years though and you can see our attitude towards sex is changing rapidly, so we shouldn't feel to bad, we're making progress.
    I'm not so sure that much progress is being made. We're too much like the redneck part of the US in this respect.
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    Norway huh? :sexface:
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    (Original post by DH-Biker)
    The guy was having sex with her ear. But no one had told him or her differently.
    Half of me is highly amused, the other slightly sad at this
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    (Original post by DH-Biker)
    Why is that sex, as such a common thing, is more taboo then a video of someone cutting people into pieces? (Generally in the UK, over more Western and Northern European countries - For the purpose of TL;DR)
    You do know that he is not REALLY cutting people into pieces. It is acting! It's make believe. Of course if he really was cutting people into pieces that would not be acceptable.

    Whereas a hard core porn video they REALLY are doing it.

    Obvious when you think about it.
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    (Original post by noobynoo)
    You do know that he is not REALLY cutting people into pieces. It is acting! It's make believe. Of course if he really was cutting people into pieces that would not be acceptable.

    Whereas a hard core porn video they REALLY are doing it.

    Obvious when you think about it.
    Well yeah, of course.

    But you understand the principals of the point, right?
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    (Original post by LadyRowena)
    It makes me so happy to see a thread like this; I've been b*tching wondering about the fact that consensual sex, a natural act that does no one any harm (usually), is seen to be as offensive as an act of violence which causes a great deal of harm.

    I also find it totally bizarre how offensive people find nudity. It's just anatomy, after all. I can understand being self-conscious about one's body and not wanting other people to see it but censoring a nude scene or only allowing people of a certain age to view it seems ridiculous. In what society is a topless woman considered as harmful for a child to view as someone being beaten to death?
    Exactly! It grates on me when people mention nudity and someone says "What if a child saw?! " So what if a child saw? How exactly is a child seeing how humans actually look like going to harm them in any way?

    In Europe they have naked ramblers who walk for miles wearing nothing but a backpack, here they would be thrown in jail for many years.
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    That's exactly what i was saying the other day. Here people are so 'hush hush' about it, which is why we have the highest rate of teenage pregnancy in europe. Sex is considered such a taboo subject that everyone feels inclined to do it even more. Bareback.
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    The porn DVD example is a poor one. It's not like people don't get stared at for buying porn in other countries, they do. I can't actually think of a country where that wouldn't get you odd looks.
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    (Original post by Callum828)
    The porn DVD example is a poor one. It's not like people don't get stared at for buying porn in other countries, they do. I can't actually think of a country where that wouldn't get you odd looks.
    Well, I don't know about Holland. There are sex shops all over the spot in Delft and The Hague.
    Hell, I went past one on a bus and in the time it took us to go around a corner and down the street a ways there was like 20 people went in.
    In other countries, yeah; but I was aiming at Holland predominantly.
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    (Original post by barnetlad)
    I'm not so sure that much progress is being made. We're too much like the redneck part of the US in this respect.
    Well we've gone from being horrified by exposed female flesh in Victorian times to being able to broadcast programmes like 'a girls guide to 21st century sex' without widespread public uproar. I wouldn't say we were that similar to the south of America either.
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    (Original post by DH-Biker)
    Right, firstly, this is just a debate. Second, I'm going to focus more on Western and Northern Europe as I don't know the attitudes of East and Southern Europe as much.

    Anyway, don't you think sex has the wrong idea here? This is going to be quite long, but I'll put a TL;DR in orange:

    You walk into a film shop. Blockbusters, a corner DVD shop, whatever. You buy a film about a man with a chainsaw cutting people to pieces. There's nothing wrong with this. Hell, I've watched such films.
    However, you walk into a shop (probably more the latter option here, as far as I'm aware, Blockbusters' pornography section is minimal at best) and you buy a porn DVD. You'd get stares from everyone.
    Why is that sex, as such a common thing, is more taboo then a video of someone cutting people into pieces? (Generally in the UK, over more Western and Northern European countries - For the purpose of TL;DR).

    I don't know if that makes as much sense to you as it does to me writing it, but does anyone else find this a tad odd?

    This seems to be the general norm in Britain. Sex, porn, etc seem to be such a taboo thing in open talking. Whereas in more Northern European Countries, and countries like Holland are renowned for their openness to sex, porn and education about them.

    Let me give you three examples:

    1) I'm half-Dutch, I often go and see my Dad who lives there with his new family. When I was over there last, I met this girl. Later that night, I was at a pub with my Dad, and we were talking about this girl and he initiated a really open, basically "the talk", conversation about sex. I was shocked that, not only was he talking about this in a very open way, but in a public place too.

    2) There is a sex museum in Copenhagen in Denmark. I could go into details, but I don't want to deter those who don't like reading much.

    3) A friend of mine went to Norway, met a Norwegian girl and went back to hers, her mother said to them, "Here, do you want this big bed? Its much more comfy, and we'll leave the pair of you alone". And he'd only known her for a few hours.

    So yeah, doesn't this strike you as a bit odd?

    Its also interesting to note that these countries have the lowest STI, STD and Teenage Pregnancy statistics at least in Europe. Probably a good majority of the world, too.

    [TL;DR] Many of us, in Britain, find sex a really awkward subject to talk about with our families, or openly talk about to adults, etc. Yet we can happily buy DVDs that show what people don't do regularly, with massively graphic content. Whereas in these countries, its as openly talked about as it gets.

    And just so I'm not generalizing; I do think its leveling out more now. Friends openly talk about it, "the talk" is often brought up and there is more information from Youth Organisations and Schools about sex, etc.

    But yeah, your views? I just found it quite interesting, but then again, I'm kind'a odd like that.

    I don't know about the taboo. I think that better childcare, education and more secure family environments in these Northern European countries mean that men and women don't engage in the sort of self destructive sex or sex outside of healthy intimacy or sex reasons, the unhealthy sex generally causing lots of STIs and teen pregnancies.
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    We're English - It's not the sort of thing we like to discuss.
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    (Original post by DH-Biker)
    Its also interesting to note that these countries have the lowest STI, STD and Teenage Pregnancy statistics at least in Europe. Probably a good majority of the world, too.
    When something is restricted and/or taboo or whatnot, people get all hyped and stupid over it. Think alcohol. I've been to Greece for holidays every summer for two months for the last 10 years. Never ever been asked for ID (even when I was 13/14). How many Greeks get massively drunk every weekend? Not many.
 
 
 
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