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    Hello!

    So I have offers from The School of Clinical Dentistry of The University of Sheffield and Bart's and the London School of Medicine and Dentistry, Queen Mary College, University of London. (I don't know why I typed all of that ****sandgiggles I suppose)

    If you can;t be bothered to read all of my bullet points:
    Let me know what you think or what you'd pick. In short I like Sheffield(the city/accommodation etc.) better, but the course at Bart's looks more manageable(I don't want to fail at uni or repeat years) The support for Dental students looks brilliant too. The Dental Fresher's Pack for last year really sells the uni

    I can't make up my mind between the two, here are my pros/cons. Let me know if you agree:

    Sheffield

    Pros:
    • LOVE the city - Airy and green with plenty to do. Not too congested.
    • University is really nice too.
    • Cheap modern and clean catered ensuite rooms and really nice accomodation in general
    • City is cheap generally
    • The people are lovely, and the accent is great


    Cons:
    • I'm not to keen on dissection
    • I'm pretty lazy and often catch buses to go a couple of stops. I worry that public transport won't be as frequent in Sheffield.
    • Walking up and down hills
    • QUESTIONS: How do the exams work in terms of modules and pass marks. As far as I understand they are end of year exams, which require lots of revision.
    • How much of it is lecture based? I find I'm much better learning on my own.


    Barts
    Pros:
    • Small intake by the looks of it with very good pastoral care/support
    • Less emphasis on lectures (again by the sound of it)
    • Continuous assessment (I tend to do nothing if left to my own devices)
    • Claims to be one of the best dental schools and most thorough
    • Lots of 'seriously messed up' patients to see
    • The underground means I don't have to walk that far anywhere
    • More prestigious than Sheffield - could be better for my future (Thanks electricjon)

    Cons:
    • THE AREA: High crime rates and shopkeepers who don't speak English.
    • Congested and busy.
    • If I were to get a car, driving would be stressful, expensive and not that advantageous (compared with Sheffield where there's loads of parking and the roads are very good)
    • London means expensive, though that's not so bad in the east end
    • The accomodation doesn't seem as nice as Sheffield (I like to be comfortable)


    For Bart's I would probably choose to stay in Mile End accommodation as it is more modern has plenty of ensuite rooms as opposed to Dawson Hall which is closer to the Dental School.

    I'd probably choose Endcliffe at Sheffield for the same reasons. I had a tour on my interview day with a charming History student and it was nice.



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    Barts is more prestigious and will look better on your CV if you wanted to do something more than just be a GDP.
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    (Original post by electricjon)
    Barts is more prestigious and will look better on your CV if you wanted to do something more than just be a GDP.
    Sheffield tops QMUL in the league tables for Dentistry.
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    (Original post by potnoodle)
    Hello!

    So I have offers from The School of Clinical Dentistry of The University of Sheffield and Bart's and the London School of Medicine and Dentistry, Queen Mary College, University of London. (I don't know why I typed all of that ****sandgiggles I suppose)

    If you can;t be bothered to read all of my bullet points:
    Let me know what you think or what you'd pick. In short I like Sheffield(the city/accommodation etc.) better, but the course at Bart's looks more manageable(I don't want to fail at uni or repeat years) The support for Dental students looks brilliant too. The Dental Fresher's Pack for last year really sells the uni

    I can't make up my mind between the two, here are my pros/cons. Let me know if you agree:

    Sheffield

    Pros:
    • LOVE the city - Airy and green with plenty to do. Not too congested.
    • University is really nice too.
    • Cheap modern and clean catered ensuite rooms and really nice accomodation in general
    • City is cheap generally
    • The people are lovely, and the accent is great


    Cons:
    • I'm not to keen on dissection
    • I'm pretty lazy and often catch buses to go a couple of stops. I worry that public transport won't be as frequent in Sheffield.
    • Walking up and down hills
    • QUESTIONS: How do the exams work in terms of modules and pass marks. As far as I understand they are end of year exams, which require lots of revision.
    • How much of it is lecture based? I find I'm much better learning on my own.
    I'm not to keen on dissection
    Most schools have dissection, including QMUL I think. It's only 1 module, so you shouldn't base your decision on just 1 module.

    I'm pretty lazy and often catch buses to go a couple of stops. I worry that public transport won't be as frequent in Sheffield.
    You probably won't need to use public transport as much as you think as most buildings are within close proximity of each other. Endcliffe (student village) is a 15 minute walk, but to be honest, I've never heard anyone complain about the walk, they seem to enjoy it in the morning whilst walking to the lectures. If you're lazy, try the city centre campuses such as Opal 1 and 2, Victoria Halls etc as they are 5-10 minutes away from the main campus. There are frequent buses and trams so you don't need to worry.

    Walking up and down hills?
    It's not as bad as it sounds.

    How do the exams work in terms of modules and pass marks. As far as I understand they are end of year exams, which require lots of revision.
    Who told you they are end of year exams? They have exams throughout the year, with exams in Jan and June in the first year. You have to get 50 to pass an exam.

    How much of it is lecture based?
    It's very lecture based, you're pretty much in 9-5 in your first year.
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    I'm currently a dental student at King's, I'll try my best not to be biased against barts :P.

    In terms of the comments on prestige, I can assure you that if you want to further your career and for example, specialise, the university from which you graduated makes absolutely no difference.

    Now the location on the other hand, DOES make a difference, if you are set up in london, you have easy access to excellent post graduate opportunities at King's, Bart's and UCL.

    The transport system in sheffield is EXCELLENT, and due to the small size of sheffield, I wouldn't consider the tube system to give london an advantage in this regard.

    In terms of the course itself, the small differences in format SHOULD NOT imo be a deciding factor between these two universities, doing a couple of sessions in the dissection room won't kill you if you approach it right, you're going to get continuous assessment wherever you go, and as long as you put yourself out there you should easily be able to make friends in older years to give you support.

    I remember as a dental applicant I looked into these things quite a bit, but these small in-course differences make as much difference as league table rankings.

    Choose your dental school on the location, do you want to spend 5 years in the beautiful, green, sloping hills of sheffield...or the booming, urban, (and somewhat disgusting) area of whitechapel, london.

    I chose london over sheffield because I felt London is a hot-spot for the most prestigious activity in any career, I want nothing more than to set up practice in central london. But, I know from my friends at sheffield, they have an infinitely more relaxed and fun lifestyle than here at King's, I can't speak for Bart's but i'll predict it's not too different.
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    Thanks for the responses people. Like I said Sheffield is really pretty and the living costs I think will be another pro. I wish there was a post offer open day for Sheffield like there was for Barts. I'm glad you've alleviated some of my doubts/misconceptions about the exams system - my bad. Would I be right in saying that on the whole, they are as challenging as any other university's?

    I think I will firm Sheffield when King's get around to rejecting me. Sheffield's offer is so much easier aswell.

    I really haven't thought of life post-Dentistry degree. I wonder if I'll be sick of HE and desperate to get to work, or interested in pursuing my studies further. I'm normally the sort to care about how good now is not worry about the past/future so sticking to my principles would mean Sheffield as it suits me so well.

    I really appreciate the responses and would be grateful for any more as it is still going to be a tough decision. I've spent nearly half an hour typing these few lines as I'm really not 100% sure. I'm like 80% Sheffield and 20% Bart's - I think that's it.

    Sheffield is pwetty and peaceful and Whitechapel is so busy and icky.
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    so yeah lol and lol yeah but yeah ceebs, lol yeah.

    SOMEONE TELL M E WHAT TO DO.
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    (Original post by potnoodle)
    so yeah lol and lol yeah but yeah ceebs, lol yeah.

    SOMEONE TELL M E WHAT TO DO.
    If you can't make a decision, then maybe you shouldn't do dentistry.

    Edit: neg rep, really?
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    (Original post by niceday)
    If you can't make a decision, then maybe you shouldn't do dentistry.
    I can make a decision, I just wanted it to be an informed one. For Sheffield, all I've seen was my interview tour.

    And really, anything other than Dentistry would not require me to have better decision making skills?

    My friend wrote that post as a casual bump when he asked to see the thread.

    However, as it stands I can not see a good reason not to choose Sheffield. So thank you everybody who gave me some useful input and if anybody else does have anything to add - please do.
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    Surely there are some other factors to consider, such as how close you will be to home?
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    I'm in the middle of the two, so it's a couple of hours for either university. I do have family in London though, but I'm not sure that's an advantage in any way.
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    (Original post by niceday)
    If you can't make a decision, then maybe you shouldn't do dentistry.

    Edit: neg rep, really?
    1000 warning points... lol

    Anyway in response to the OP, Barts is situated in London. And London connects to just about anywhere you'd ever want to go, AND there are some really nice areas immediately beside whitechapel. So you don't have to stay in that tiny area which you don't seem too keen on.
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    (Original post by potnoodle)
    I'm in the middle of the two, so it's a couple of hours for either university. I do have family in London though, but I'm not sure that's an advantage in any way.
    Im doing Dentistry at Sheffield at the moment.

    The buses are literally every 5 mins, caus there are several different ones you can get. A single for a student is 50p.

    Dissection isn't that big of a deal..you don't have to do any dissecting if you don't want to, you can just watch. Also, some people find that they enjoy it more than they originally thought.

    Sheffield is quite heavily lecture based. The first term of first year is quite full on, though you do get the majority of wednesdays off. The second term is a doss really, probably half the amount of lectures and stuff as first term And after Easter, i have one clinic to go to, before my exams at the end of May. So it's pretty chilled out.

    We have exams in January (3 - 2 written/multiple choice, and 1 spotter exam), a spotter exam in March, an OSCE at the v beg of April, and then 3 exams at the end of May.

    Spotter exams are to do with anatomy and dissection.

    You need to get above 50% average over the Jan exams, and the May exams to pass. You can get 40-50% and still pass, providing the other exams bring your result up to 50+. Anything below 40% in any exam will fail you, and you'll have to resit all the exams in that 'batch'. >65% is honours, and >80% is distinction.
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    hey how many people are failing in your year group??



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    Im doing Dentistry at Sheffield at the moment.

    The buses are literally every 5 mins, caus there are several different ones you can get. A single for a student is 50p.

    Dissection isn't that big of a deal..you don't have to do any dissecting if you don't want to, you can just watch. Also, some people find that they enjoy it more than they originally thought.

    Sheffield is quite heavily lecture based. The first term of first year is quite full on, though you do get the majority of wednesdays off. The second term is a doss really, probably half the amount of lectures and stuff as first term And after Easter, i have one clinic to go to, before my exams at the end of May. So it's pretty chilled out.

    We have exams in January (3 - 2 written/multiple choice, and 1 spotter exam), a spotter exam in March, an OSCE at the v beg of April, and then 3 exams at the end of May.

    Spotter exams are to do with anatomy and dissection.

    You need to get above 50% average over the Jan exams, and the May exams to pass. You can get 40-50% and still pass, providing the other exams bring your result up to 50+. Anything below 40% in any exam will fail you, and you'll have to resit all the exams in that 'batch'. >65% is honours, and >80% is distinction.
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    (Original post by FT45)
    hey how many people are failing in your year group??
    lol erm i know of 3 who failed some aspect of their jan exams. There's 93 or 94 in my year, i think.
 
 
 
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