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    (Original post by refref)
    That's definitely not true. I don't know how much Cambridge care about GCSEs, but Oxford really don't care.
    An oxford rep told me that at a university conference in london.

    shut the **** up
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    (Original post by Jampolo)
    An oxford rep told me that at a university conference in london.

    shut the **** up
    It might be true that Cambridge care less (despite having a point system) but unless you have really bad gcses (I am talking no A*s, no As, some Bs but mostly Cs and Ds, which are bad in terms of applying to any top universities) they don't care. They are much more concerned with the test scores and interview performance.

    I don't know why he said that. You shouldn't decide on which one to apply to based on your GCSEs.
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    (Original post by refref)
    it might be true that cambridge care less (despite having a point system) but unless you have really bad gcses (i am talking no a*s, no as, some bs but mostly cs and ds, which are bad in terms of applying to any top universities) they don't care. They are much more concerned with the test scores and interview performance.

    I don't know why he said that. You shouldn't decide on which one to apply to based on your gcses.
    if u attended these conferences, maybe you'd know?
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    (Original post by RacingPro97)
    Hi,
    I am in Year 12 and have been recently looking at whether to apply to Oxford or Cambridge for Maths. I initially looked at Cambridge, but now I am slightly concerned about the differences in application processes. For example, I plan to also apply to Warwick, and if all goes really well I may receive offers from both Cambridge and Warwick (setting them as firm and insurance offers). My problem then would be that both rely quite heavily on STEP - which I feel is quite risky, because at the moment the STEP paper is an unknown quantity (I have looked at past papers, but without C3/C4 knowledge I don't know exactly where I would stand with them). If instead I chose a different insurance offer which did not rely on STEP, I would feel that it was a missed opportunity to go to the very top Maths universities.

    On the other hand, if I applied to Oxford, I understand that the admissions test will have been done in November, so the offer by them would instead include A*s at A Level rather than STEP. I would still plan to take STEP, but at least then if it does not go well my offer does not heavily rely on it. So, my question is whether this is a thing I should be concerned about, or whether I should just worry about it nearer the time (I haven't even visited them yet, so I am jumping ahead a bit anyway)? If I did not meet firm and insurance offers requiring STEP, would I not be able to get a university place?

    Thanks
    Well if you want do very well in your maths degree and be around people who are as much talented as you, so you keep working hard with this competition then Cambridge, who cares if its STEP paper or not.... just do well..
    Plus i highly recommend you doing further maths ................ and cambridge also prefer students with around 95% ums marks, my mate got an offer to Cambridge and he got 100% for maths, further maths and physic..... these are going to some of the smartest people in the country and world, so u gotta do what you gotta do
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    (Original post by Iqbal007)
    Well if you want do very well in your maths degree and be around people who are as much talented as you, so you keep working hard with this competition then Cambridge, who cares if its STEP paper or not.... just do well..
    Plus i highly recommend you doing further maths ................ and cambridge also prefer students with around 95% ums marks, my mate got an offer to Cambridge and he got 100% for maths, further maths and physic..... these are going to some of the smartest people in the country and world, so u gotta do what you gotta do
    university of greenwich is ranked 6th for maths in THE GUARDIAN, so greenwich is best university, no?
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    (Original post by Dipe)
    university of greenwich is ranked 6th for maths in THE GUARDIAN, so greenwich is best university, no?
    Don't pay any attention to the guardian league tables.
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    (Original post by Dipe)
    university of greenwich is ranked 6th for maths in THE GUARDIAN, so greenwich is best university, no?
    I always find the guardian rankings come out with quite weird rankings. I did take a look at the course and it doesn't look amazing.
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    (Original post by anshul95)
    I always find the guardian rankings come out with quite weird rankings. I did take a look at the course and it doesn't look amazing.
    They once had Bangor and Hull in their maths rankings - think Bangor was top 10 - despite neither uni having a maths degree!
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    (Original post by RichE)
    They once had Bangor and Hull in their maths rankings - think Bangor was top 10 - despite neither uni having a maths degree!
    Yeah, but everyone doing maths at Bangor and Hull ends up getting a Fields medal.
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    From my limited sources, oxford is easier to get into, but Cambridge has a much better global reputation and as a result is a much harder course.
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    Oxford... no STEP =P
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    (Original post by Iqbal007)
    Plus i highly recommend you doing further maths ................ and cambridge also prefer students with around 95% ums marks
    Lies! Granted high UMS will look fabulous, but they certainly don't expect 95%+; I had 79 in D1 (:teehee:) and have a Cambridge offer, and I know someone who got about 50-ish in his D1 and also has a Cambridge offer. It would obviously help to get the best UMS you can, but as long as you're in the nineties with the majority of exams, other elements of your application are as important. (It's worth noting that the autopool criteria are 7A* or more and 92%+ in your 3 best AS subjects - so they certainly don't automatically disqualify you unless you have around 95% or the like.)
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    (Original post by DFranklin)
    Yeah, but everyone doing maths at Bangor and Hull ends up getting a Fields medal.
    does it make mathematical sense to assign a non-trivial property (winning a fields medal) to an empty set (maths at Bangor)?

    sorry my analysis is rather rusty...
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    (Original post by Alison1992)
    Why would you aim to be in the bottom 50% of undergrads?
    No one aims to be there. Some just end up there for lack of ability or whatever.
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    (Original post by slylion1)
    does it make mathematical sense to assign a non-trivial property (winning a fields medal) to an empty set (maths at Bangor)?
    If the set S is empty, then for any property X it is perfectly valid to say that "all members of S have property X".
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    (Original post by RichE)
    They once had Bangor and Hull in their maths rankings - think Bangor was top 10 - despite neither uni having a maths degree!
    I do remember someone posting a Greenwich maths exam on here and was shocked that even I could do loads of the questions :eek::eek:
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    (Original post by marshmallowfudgecake)
    From my limited sources, oxford is easier to get into, but Cambridge has a much better global reputation and as a result is a much harder course.
    actually what happens is:
    Oxford=harder to get an offer, easier to achieve the offer
    Cambridge=easier to get an offer, harder to actually fulfill it due to STEP requirements
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    (Original post by anshul95)
    actually what happens is:
    Oxford=harder to get an offer, easier to achieve the offer
    Cambridge=easier to get an offer, harder to actually fulfill it due to STEP requirements
    I agree with the achieving the offer comment

    but in terms of actually getting an offer, oxford is still easier.
    In my school, 8 people got into oxford and 1 for cambridge, and they were all advised for oxford as its easioer
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    (Original post by marshmallowfudgecake)
    I agree with the achieving the offer comment

    but in terms of actually getting an offer, oxford is still easier.
    In my school, 8 people got into oxford and 1 for cambridge, and they were all advised for oxford as its easioer
    Not true. I think you have to look at the statistics and experience. For maths, I know for fact that there was a lot more competition - I forgotten the actual number as I have lost my feedback letter which had it but at my college which I applied to there were about 15-16 chasing 4 places. And considering roughly 40% are eliminated before getting an interview and thats a lot of people being rejected. I also remember an overall success rate for this year being about 18% or something like that so actually statistically speaking for maths it has harder to get an offer at oxford. But this is for maths and isn't necessarily true for all subjects.
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    (Original post by kerily)
    Lies! Granted high UMS will look fabulous, but they certainly don't expect 95%+; I had 79 in D1 (:teehee:) and have a Cambridge offer, and I know someone who got about 50-ish in his D1 and also has a Cambridge offer. It would obviously help to get the best UMS you can, but as long as you're in the nineties with the majority of exams, other elements of your application are as important. (It's worth noting that the autopool criteria are 7A* or more and 92%+ in your 3 best AS subjects - so they certainly don't automatically disqualify you unless you have around 95% or the like.)
    few of my friends did and they 92% +
 
 
 
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