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    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=50MEycDZoVM&feature

    Was just curious to any Conservatives response to their party finally coming clean and admitting their true ideological agenda for the cuts they're making.

    And also the fact it clearly further supports this article:
    http://johannhari.com/2011/03/29/the...itish-politics
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    Just shows that they never change.
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    http://www.newstatesman.com/blogs/me...rling-thatcher

    Robinson: "The Treasury's own figures suggest deeper, tougher than Thatcher's - do you accept that?"

    Darling: "They will be deeper and tougher - where we make the precise comparison I think is secondary to an acknowledgement that these reductions will be tough."

    So, yeah. IDEOLOGICAL.
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    There will forever be a cycle of conservative cuts, people getting angry, voting Labour, Labour spend a load money to revive the destroyed public sector, people getting angry and voting Tory. It will happen again and again.
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    (Original post by wallace32)
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=50MEycDZoVM&feature

    Was just curious to any Conservatives response to their party finally coming clean and admitting their true ideological agenda for the cuts they're making.

    And also the fact it clearly further supports this article:
    http://johannhari.com/2011/03/29/the...itish-politics
    Hard to be ideological cuts when Labour were going to make pretty much the same cuts.
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    Get back at the Tories and Con Dem Coalition by voting in the student room model house of commons election

    http://www.thestudentroom.co.uk/show....php?t=1592900

    Preferably for the Socialist Party. Only we will oppose and reverse Thatcher's greedy market fundamentalist ideology
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    (Original post by Aj12)
    Hard to be ideological cuts when Labour were going to make pretty much the same cuts.
    They had WELL CONSIDERED cuts planned, they weren't going to massacre the public sector in a flash. their cuts were going to be over a longer period.
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    (Original post by ikoghoo)
    They had WELL CONSIDERED cuts planned, they weren't going to massacre the public sector in a flash. their cuts were going to be over a longer period.
    Yet would amount to the same thing.
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    We won't know what the ideological intentions are until the deficit comes under control. If we see tax cuts, then it was an ideological smokescreen. If we see an increase in government spending, then they're just another statist government and if we see a mixture of the two, which i'd put my money on, then they can say it was done with honourable intentions.
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    (Original post by Aj12)
    Hard to be ideological cuts when Labour were going to make pretty much the same cuts.
    Labour weren't going to make pretty much the same cuts, tactically or not they never made a full budget. Also they planned to have cut the budget by half as much by 2014. Furthermore they wouldn't have don't it by cutting the public sector by 30% and easing the tax burden of the private sector.

    The fundamental difference between the two is the Conservatives want these cuts, they want to fund the public sector less, they also want to boost the private sector because that were most Tory support lies.
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    (Original post by wallace32)
    Labour weren't going to make pretty much the same cuts, tactically or not they never made a full budget. Also they planned to have cut the budget by half as much by 2014. Furthermore they wouldn't have don't it by cutting the private sector by 30% and easing the tax burden of the Public sector.

    The fundamental difference between the two is the Conservatives want these cuts, they won't to fund the private sector less, they also want to boost the private sector because that were most Tory support lies.
    How can you cut the private sector?

    As well as this the public sector does not create wealth so a private sector is far better than a overly large public sector.
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    (Original post by wallace32)
    Was just curious to any Conservatives response to their party finally coming clean and admitting their true ideological agenda for the cuts they're making.
    Er, of course cutting spending is ideological. We have an ideological commitment to sound public finances.

    (Original post by ikoghoo)
    They had WELL CONSIDERED cuts planned, they weren't going to massacre the public sector in a flash. their cuts were going to be over a longer period.
    So in other words, they'd be deeper in the long run. What basis do you have for suggesting that they would be 'well considered' - Labour did not provide any real information on what they would cut, and indeed did not join the Conservatives in ruling out cuts to the NHS.
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    (Original post by ikoghoo)
    They had WELL CONSIDERED cuts planned, they weren't going to massacre the public sector in a flash. their cuts were going to be over a longer period.
    Au contraire, they weren't considered at all because they knew they would never have to implement them. Thus they could get away with saying they would cut 'but our cuts wouldn't be as bad!' without ever saying a single thing they would cut. That's not a difficult thing to do.

    Besides, over the course of her time in power, Thatcher INCREASED public spending, so having cuts that are deeper than hers isn't that tricky (though I know she cut at first)
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    (Original post by wallace32)
    Labour weren't going to make pretty much the same cuts, tactically or not they never made a full budget. Also they planned to have cut the budget by half as much by 2014. Furthermore they wouldn't have don't it by cutting the private sector by 30% and easing the tax burden of the Public sector.

    The fundamental difference between the two is the Conservatives want these cuts, they won't to fund the private sector less, they also want to boost the private sector because that were most Tory support lies.
    This makes absolutely no sense what so ever??????????????
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    (Original post by CyclopsRock)
    Au contraire, they weren't considered at all because they knew they would never have to implement them. Thus they could get away with saying they would cut 'but our cuts wouldn't be as bad!' without ever saying a single thing they would cut. That's not a difficult thing to do.

    Besides, over the course of her time in power, Thatcher INCREASED public spending, so having cuts that are deeper than hers isn't that tricky (though I know she cut at first)
    I think she increased public spending in monetary terms but not as a percentage of GDP.
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    (Original post by Aj12)
    Yet would amount to the same thing.
    Are you being serious? Spreading cuts out over a longer period of time will also lead to, closure of public services because organisations are forced to find 30% savings in under a week, people losing their homes because their benefits are cut (a woman with one leg was thrown off disability benefit), slashing the university education budget and forcing students to fill the gap due to a rash decision. These things only happen when cuts aren't planned properly and are made too fast.
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    (Original post by L i b)
    Er, of course cutting spending is ideological. We have an ideological commitment to sound public finances.



    So in other words, they'd be deeper in the long run. What basis do you have for suggesting that they would be 'well considered' - Labour did not provide any real information on what they would cut, and indeed did not join the Conservatives in ruling out cuts to the NHS.

    Why are you mention Labour? This is an issue because Conservatives are in power. Labour didn't get in, Conservatives did and they are exploiting the economic climate do what they always want to do which is essentially keep the rich, rich
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    (Original post by L i b)
    Er, of course cutting spending is ideological. We have an ideological commitment to sound public finances.



    So in other words, they'd be deeper in the long run. What basis do you have for suggesting that they would be 'well considered' - Labour did not provide any real information on what they would cut, and indeed did not join the Conservatives in ruling out cuts to the NHS.
    Actually, the conservatives PROMISED to ringfence the NHS budget. Remember those billboards "I'll cut the defecit not the NHS" with David's shiny face on?
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    (Original post by arabcnesbit)
    I think she increased public spending in monetary terms but not as a percentage of GDP.
    As will the present government.
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    (Original post by arabcnesbit)
    This makes absolutely no sense what so ever??????????????
    Yeah sorry i've edited it.
 
 
 
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