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    (Original post by Cheekybelle)
    did ur teacher go 2 dat examiners conference 4 dis year? if ur teacher went 2 an examiners conference and they were mainly talkin about Ayer then that probably means Ayer is gonna com up.
    She did and yeah, that's why. She said that the examiner person spent hours on Ayer and only brushed over the other two. I don't want to take it for granted though.

    How'd revision for Developments going? I've only done the Ontological Argument so far. I've done Religion and Morality so many times now I'm sort of tired of it! REALLY need to focus on metaethics though.
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    thank u soo much 4 dat info bout Ayer. i'm doin for the philosophy part ontological, life after death and for the ethics deontology, virtue ethics and natural moral law. its soo loong tho. hw r u revisin 4 the developments?
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    (Original post by Cheekybelle)
    thank u soo much 4 dat info bout Ayer. i'm doin for the philosophy part ontological, life after death and for the ethics deontology, virtue ethics and natural moral law. its soo loong tho. hw r u revisin 4 the developments?
    I found a good way to revise the Developments was to read over the notes of a topic and try and write a timed essay in 35 minutes - it's really difficult to get it all down and it makes you more realistic about what to revise (after all there's no point over-revising what is a short question compared to the implications).
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    My philosophy teacher reckons it'll be Ayer, my Ethics teacher thinks Westphal. They're both pretty sure it won't be Donovan, as he came up in June 10 and June 09 (apparently).
    I'd be happy with either of them, you could really bring in many of the same links to either of them. I'm just praying that it won't be Donovan.
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    (Original post by scotzbhoy)
    My philosophy teacher reckons it'll be Ayer, my Ethics teacher thinks Westphal. They're both pretty sure it won't be Donovan, as he came up in June 10 and June 09 (apparently).
    I'd be happy with either of them, you could really bring in many of the same links to either of them. I'm just praying that it won't be Donovan.
    I'm not a big fan of Donovan either :/ there's just so much of it!
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    westphal is not likely 2 com up cz it came up in jan 2011 and it actually came up in june 09, so im praying itz ayer dat coms up.
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    My teacher thinks it will be Ayer as well
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    (Original post by miss_boyes)
    I found a good way to revise the Developments was to read over the notes of a topic and try and write a timed essay in 35 minutes - it's really difficult to get it all down and it makes you more realistic about what to revise (after all there's no point over-revising what is a short question compared to the implications).
    I'm going to try that!

    (Original post by Bluemonster3)
    My teacher thinks it will be Ayer as well
    Good because I haven't even properly read Donavan...
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    (Original post by Cheekybelle)
    westphal is not likely 2 com up cz it came up in jan 2011 and it actually came up in june 09, so im praying itz ayer dat coms up.
    this paper isnt available in january!
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    (Original post by Spectrum~)
    I'm not a big fan of Donovan either :/ there's just so much of it!
    westphal was jun 09
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    (Original post by Cheekybelle)
    thank u soo much 4 dat info bout Ayer. i'm doin for the philosophy part ontological, life after death and for the ethics deontology, virtue ethics and natural moral law. its soo loong tho. hw r u revisin 4 the developments?
    im abit stuck on life after death
    my teacher basically went over the mind body problem

    however the spec says we need to know
    immortality,rebirth, ressurection, reincarnation lol
    so im stumped as i dont want to do religious lang!
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    I am seriously hoping it's Ayer... I know so much more about him.
    If it's Westphal I might actually debate walking out of the exam. We didn't even learn about 'The Emergence of modern philosophy of religion' this year so it's all the essays content is entirely new to us! (Is this the same for anyone else?)

    Also, does anyone have any idea as to what to focus on writing in part (b)? I don't really understand what they want me to write as 'Implications for religion and human experience'. It's all a bit confusing.

    PS: I'm fast-tracking this subect this year and so i've just come out of the AS exams. The workload is far too much with revising Developments on-top. (And my other two subjects!) Especially when I have terrible procrastination and concentration issues at the moment.
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    http://www.edexcel.com/migrationdocu...20Religion.pdf

    This is quite an interesting booklet, most of the stuff in there should be familiar from classwork but it is quite helpful when consolidating information/ making your own revision notes - its kinda like a checklist of things that might be worth mentioning
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    (Original post by monkeyonthelake)
    I am seriously hoping it's Ayer... I know so much more about him.
    If it's Westphal I might actually debate walking out of the exam. We didn't even learn about 'The Emergence of modern philosophy of religion' this year so it's all the essays content is entirely new to us! (Is this the same for anyone else?)

    Also, does anyone have any idea as to what to focus on writing in part (b)? I don't really understand what they want me to write as 'Implications for religion and human experience'. It's all a bit confusing.

    PS: I'm fast-tracking this subect this year and so i've just come out of the AS exams. The workload is far too much with revising Developments on-top. (And my other two subjects!) Especially when I have terrible procrastination and concentration issues at the moment.
    Omg I thought I was the only one who did AS and A2 in the same year! The workload was actually terrible!
    I'll make a post later, I'm on my iPhone right now.
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    Okay I take back what I said about Donovan being hard...Westphal is just :confused:

    (Original post by fusion12345)
    im abit stuck on life after death
    my teacher basically went over the mind body problem

    however the spec says we need to know
    immortality,rebirth, ressurection, reincarnation lol
    so im stumped as i dont want to do religious lang!
    I've got a chapter on life after death (I think it's from edexcel but not entirely sure) which includes those things on the spec, if you like I can try and scan it for you
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    (Original post by Spectrum~)
    Okay I take back what I said about Donovan being hard...Westphal is just :confused:



    I've got a chapter on life after death (I think it's from edexcel but not entirely sure) which includes those things on the spec, if you like I can try and scan it for you
    please that would be really appreciated
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    My Philosophy teacher is the one who wrote that sample answer posted by miss_boyes ! And yeah she told us that Ayer has never come up before?! If Ayer has, does anyone have the paper?
    She also went to that conference and said that they went into real detail about Ayer and not so much with the other two.
    Ayer is deffo my best, so I'm keeping my fingers crossed it comes up! Still going to revise the other two (probably not as much) but just pray they don't come up!!
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    (Original post by VictoriaPlum)
    My Philosophy teacher is the one who wrote that sample answer posted by miss_boyes ! And yeah she told us that Ayer has never come up before?! If Ayer has, does anyone have the paper?
    She also went to that conference and said that they went into real detail about Ayer and not so much with the other two.
    Ayer is deffo my best, so I'm keeping my fingers crossed it comes up! Still going to revise the other two (probably not as much) but just pray they don't come up!!
    XD
    Ayer came up in 2008
    a. clarify the argument and/or interpretation in the passage (24)
    b. Do you agree with the idea(s) expressed? Justify your point of view and discuss its implications for understanding religion and human experience. (16)

    and the paragraph was the 5th paragraph (excluding the first sentence):
    "For we are often told that the nature of God is a mystery which transcends the human understanding. But to say that something transcends the human understanding is to say that it is unintelligible. And what is unintelligible cannot significantly be described. Again, we are told that God is not an object of reason but an object of faith. This may be nothing more than an admission that the existence of God must be taken on trust, since it cannot be proved. But it may also be an assertion that God is the object of a purely mystical intuition, and cannot therefore be defined in terms which are intelligible to the reason. And I think there are many theists who would assert this. But if one allows that it is impossible to define God in intelligible terms, then one is allowing that it is impossible for a sentence both to be significant and to be about God. If a mystic admits that the object of his vision is something which cannot be described, then he must also admit that he is bound to talk nonsense when he describes it." (I didn't type it btw :P)
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    (Original post by miss_boyes)
    XD
    Ayer came up in 2008
    a. clarify the argument and/or interpretation in the passage (24)
    b. Do you agree with the idea(s) expressed? Justify your point of view and discuss its implications for understanding religion and human experience. (16)

    and the paragraph was the 5th paragraph (excluding the first sentence):
    "For we are often told that the nature of God is a mystery which transcends the human understanding. But to say that something transcends the human understanding is to say that it is unintelligible. And what is unintelligible cannot significantly be described. Again, we are told that God is not an object of reason but an object of faith. This may be nothing more than an admission that the existence of God must be taken on trust, since it cannot be proved. But it may also be an assertion that God is the object of a purely mystical intuition, and cannot therefore be defined in terms which are intelligible to the reason. And I think there are many theists who would assert this. But if one allows that it is impossible to define God in intelligible terms, then one is allowing that it is impossible for a sentence both to be significant and to be about God. If a mystic admits that the object of his vision is something which cannot be described, then he must also admit that he is bound to talk nonsense when he describes it." (I didn't type it btw :P)

    I feel saddened by my teacher's lies lol -She's still predicting that Ayer will come up but I'm seeing her tomorrow (and presenting her with this 2008 evidence ) so I'll see what she says
    But I think as they've all come up before it's anyone's guess as to what will come up this year. I'm still hoping for Ayer and given the examiners' conference I'll probably still say it'll be Ayer... hopefully!
    Thank you for posting the 2008 question though!! x
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    (Original post by miss_boyes)
    http://www.edexcel.com/migrationdocu...20Religion.pdf

    This is quite an interesting booklet, most of the stuff in there should be familiar from classwork but it is quite helpful when consolidating information/ making your own revision notes - its kinda like a checklist of things that might be worth mentioning
    My teacher printed this off for all of us. Frankly we just find it overly confusing but I guess it's been far better than having nothing. Why are these things never simple?

    (Original post by diamonddust)
    Omg I thought I was the only one who did AS and A2 in the same year! The workload was actually terrible!
    I'll make a post later, I'm on my iPhone right now.
    Woo! Someone else feels my pain! :hugs:

    There is another girl in my class who's fast-tracking and another who wants to do it next year. My teacher asked me recently, "Do you have any advice for the person wanting to do it next year? Apart from 'Don't do it' that is?" Haha. I said that was about all I could offer apart from keep your notes well organised.
 
 
 
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