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    britain is supposed to be a free and democratic society. why then, does it force people to pay for a state propaganda channel that by its own standards is politically biased?


    surely, this is the stuff of banana republics?
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    I'd agree that it is biased in favour of the Monarchy... pretty much OK, otherwise, for me!
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    The BBC is a great public service broadcaster! The best in the world. Its shows are viewed by people all over the world. Top Gear is watched by over 350Million! worldwide. Why do people always kick it down?!l
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    You lost me there. Are there any free and democratic societies that have unbiased state channels?
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    Because whilst it is impossible to eliminate bias, the BBC is less biased than most other news sources out there. Along with CNN, NHK, CBC, ABC (Australia) and arguably Canal+ and Al Jazeera, it's fairly neutral.

    Also the BBC rocks.
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    The beeb is better than most, but in the last decade or so they have abandoned any pretence of impartiality. There is now such naked bias toward the left that it is truly sickening. Mainly, I presume that it is because the executive and senior reporters are all Muswell Hill dwelling champagne socialists.
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    (Original post by Clip)
    The beeb is better than most, but in the last decade or so they have abandoned any pretence of impartiality. There is now such naked bias toward the left that it is truly sickening. Mainly, I presume that it is because the executive and senior reporters are all Muswell Hill dwelling champagne socialists.


    if the bbc wants to be partisan it cannot expect to be funded by the tax payer. surely?
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    (Original post by Clip)
    The beeb is better than most, but in the last decade or so they have abandoned any pretence of impartiality. There is now such naked bias toward the left that it is truly sickening. Mainly, I presume that it is because the executive and senior reporters are all Muswell Hill dwelling champagne socialists.
    And you've evaluated this, how? I can't say I've noticed any real bias - got any specific examples?

    The thing is, lots of people on the left-wing and right-wing do both actively complain about the BBC's perceived viewpoints. Since you're both ****ing complaining about it all the time, I think that the corporation's doing something right.
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    How else would we know what to believe?
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    (Original post by humanrights)
    britain is supposed to be a free and democratic society. why then, does it force people to pay for a state propaganda channel that by its own standards is politically biased?


    surely, this is the stuff of banana republics?
    You're not forced.

    The BBC is a great British institution. Far better than the crap ITV dish out...
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    (Original post by JoeLatics)
    I'd agree that it is biased in favour of the Monarchy... pretty much OK, otherwise, for me!
    I agree with this statement!

    Yeah the bbc (apart from when they talk about the monarch) are pretty much neutral.
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    (Original post by Aphotic Cosmos)
    Because whilst it is impossible to eliminate bias, the BBC is less biased than most other news sources out there. Along with CNN, NHK, CBC, ABC (Australia) and arguably Canal+ and Al Jazeera, it's fairly neutral.

    Also the BBC rocks.
    Yeah I only recently discovered how good al jazeera are.
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    (Original post by Aphotic Cosmos)
    And you've evaluated this, how? I can't say I've noticed any real bias - got any specific examples?

    The thing is, lots of people on the left-wing and right-wing do both actively complain about the BBC's perceived viewpoints. Since you're both ****ing complaining about it all the time, I think that the corporation's doing something right.




    in 2006 the bbc admitted its was biased:

    thisislondon.co.uk/news/article-23371706-yes-we-are-biased-on-religion-and-politics-admit-bbc-executives.do




    last year director general mark thomson admitted massive left leaning bias:


    dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1308215/Yes-BBC-biased-Mark-Thompson-admits-massive-lean-Left.html




    then came the peter sissions memoir. he said that bbc left leaning bias was in the dna of the corporation.
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    (Original post by Aphotic Cosmos)
    And you've evaluated this, how? I can't say I've noticed any real bias - got any specific examples?

    The thing is, lots of people on the left-wing and right-wing do both actively complain about the BBC's perceived viewpoints. Since you're both ****ing complaining about it all the time, I think that the corporation's doing something right.
    You're kidding aren't you? Radio 4 giving uninterrupted, unchallenged airtime to Zadie Smith for an anti-government rant. Radio 5 with constant and continuous cosying up to uber-lefties. Packing Question Time with drongoes like Yasmin Alibhai-Brown and Shami Chakribati, and packing the audiences with their cheerleader sections. The news portion of Radio 5 (ie the majority of it) with a dyed-in-the-wool centre-left and pro-green agenda. Half the presenters in open mockery of anything that doesn't fit their own manifesto.
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    (Original post by humanrights)
    in 2006 the bbc admitted its was biased:

    thisislondon.co.uk/news/article-23371706-yes-we-are-biased-on-religion-and-politics-admit-bbc-executives.do




    last year director general mark thomson admitted massive left leaning bias:


    dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1308215/Yes-BBC-biased-Mark-Thompson-admits-massive-lean-Left.html




    then came the peter sissions memoir. he said that bbc left leaning bias was in the dna of the corporation.
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5eBT6OSr1TI
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    (Original post by humanrights)
    in 2006 the bbc admitted its was biased:

    thisislondon.co.uk/news/article-23371706-yes-we-are-biased-on-religion-and-politics-admit-bbc-executives.do




    last year director general mark thomson admitted massive left leaning bias:


    dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1308215/Yes-BBC-biased-Mark-Thompson-admits-massive-lean-Left.html




    then came the peter sissions memoir. he said that bbc left leaning bias was in the dna of the corporation.
    And I reject those assessments. I believe that the DG and other BBC execs. have been pressured consistently from the top since the mid-2000s to periodically offer up sacrificial public statements from administrations that have disliked them. Blair and later Brown because of the BBC's criticism of the war in Iraq, and Cameron out of an ideological detestation of the institution.

    The BBC runs broadly along centrist lines. I say this as a centrist who picks and chooses from both sides.

    If you don't like the BBC, don't pay the ****ing licence fee. You don't need to watch TV, there's lots of things you can do otherwise, and if you want to watch specific programs then just watch iPlayer, 4od or pay for Sky Player or SeeSaw.
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    the daily mail card............:congrats:
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    (Original post by Aphotic Cosmos)
    And I reject those assessments. I believe that the DG and other BBC execs. have been pressured consistently from the top since the mid-2000s to periodically offer up sacrificial public statements from administrations that have disliked them. Blair and later Brown because of the BBC's criticism of the war in Iraq, and Cameron out of an ideological detestation of the institution.

    The BBC runs broadly along centrist lines. I say this as a centrist who picks and chooses from both sides.

    If you don't like the BBC, don't pay the ****ing licence fee.



    you reject the conclusions of the 2 bbc director generals and a veteran employee?


    nice.


    british public are forced to pay for the state brainwashing channel if they watch it or not.


    but you have a point, i might make a legal claim.
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    (Original post by Clip)
    Packing Question Time with drongoes like Yasmin Alibhai-Brown and Shami Chakribati, and packing the audiences with their cheerleader sections.
    Do you even watch QT? This is unadulterated drivel. Nigel Farage, Michael Heseltine, Norman Tebbit, Philip Hammond . . . you cannot possibly say that any of these people are left-wing, and they have all been on QT, some regularly, and that's just a tiny fraction of the right-wing politicians, journalists and other figures I've seen on QT, Any Questions and other shows. The audience also varies depending on location, if they're in central Liverpool of course they're going to boo anything a Tory or UKIP rep says, if they're in Kent then (trust me on this) they're going to rip apart the Labour or Lib Dem rep. QT also brings out general anti-politician elements who generally distrust most things that national politicians say regardless of their political leanings, and just want a platform to bash someone from. This may make the audience seem biased on some nights, but having been on QT before I can tell you that it's mostly fed up people just wanting to give politicians a dose of public common sense, regardless of their political leanings.

    Have you ever watched Newsnight or any extended BBC coverage of a major political event like the budget or an election? Michael Crick? Nick Robinson? Paul Mason? Robert Peston? Stephanie Flanders? John Simpson? David Dimbleby? Centre through to right, all of them, quite resolutely, and all right at the top of the BBC's news organisation, editing and reporting for flagship political shows or chairing event coverages.

    You focus on what you dislike and fail to recognise the frakking obvious - that the BBC, as far as news organisations go around the world, is remarkably balanced.
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    well they do have good comedy and top gear ^__^. for news we have al jazeera, bbc, cnn and russia talk on tv anyway so there's your centrist channels.
 
 
 
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