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    Hi Guys

    Will GP training remain at 3 years for the meantime?.

    Is it difficult to get a GP training post in London?
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    No.
    Not if you're good and hit the person spec hard.
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    so any idea when its going to change to 5yrs?...i didn't get what u mean @ the london part.
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    Can't remember off the top of my head, next two or three years I think.
    Getting any job, anywhere, is easy if you are the person they are looking for. If you meet the person specification for GP ST you will have a good chance of getting a London job.
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    It's already starting to change. Lots of deanerys are now offering 4 year schemes. The RCGP wanted to have 5 year programmes by 2012 however this hasn't been confirmed. GP training is becoming more and more competitive, partly because there are more and more doctors being produced but also because more and more people are changing to General Practice half way through other specialist training jobs. Renal is absolutely correct in that you can get jobs wherever you want however you have to make yourself as competitive as possible. Part of the application process is a general medicine exam and your knowledge will be directly compared to everyone else sitting it, some of whom will be Med SpRs etc.
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    What's the reasoning behind the move to 5 year programmes, out of interest? Is it to try and bring it more in line with other specialties, or because they think more training is needed? Or is it all because of the EWTD reducing hours meaning you need longer to accrue the same amount of training as before?
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    (Original post by Becca-Sarah)
    What's the reasoning behind the move to 5 year programmes, out of interest?

    I don't know what the official line is... but my feelings are that more training would be beneficial - especially now they're wanting 18months in GP - so as well as the 12month Registrar year an additional 6 month placement as an SHO. So it only leaves time for 3x6month other SHO specialties. There are so many that I want to do!


    There is still only the one 4 year programme in London from 2011 because the Imperial pilot which was also hoped to start then did not get approval in time.


    I found applying to the GPVTS in London veeery stressful.
    Applicants per places was about 4:1 I think, which doesn't seem horrendous - but then there was the Stage 2 exam that Egypt mentioned that they were wanting to use to whittle it down to 1.5:1 for the Selection Centre/Interviews. The exams covered everything (so more diverse than my final finals!). The Selection Centre then involved a written exercise and 3 'simulation' tasks rather than an interview as such. The competition scared me - lots of people making a career change from registrar level in other specialties... & I paid out for a preparation course in advance which thankfully paid off!
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    (Original post by Becca-Sarah)
    What's the reasoning behind the move to 5 year programmes, out of interest? Is it to try and bring it more in line with other specialties, or because they think more training is needed? Or is it all because of the EWTD reducing hours meaning you need longer to accrue the same amount of training as before?
    its because it is offensive that a doctor can be completely unsupervised independent practitioner so soon after leaving medical school despite having fook all experience in most areas.
 
 
 
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