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C2 is a calculator paper, right, and yet its eight chapter, Graphs of Trigonometric functions, is littered with these stupid 'Note: Do use a calculator' messages. HA. The hell I will. Dumb book. Does it think I have some super R5000 computer chip implanted in my brain or what. Could any dearest human mortal tell me what on earth is the point of these messages. Why be so forbidden about calcs in a CALCULATOR paper. Jesus. If they cared so much - put it into C1. Obviously we have some logically challenged exam boards in the country. /rant
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Firstly, we don't have exam boards in this country.

Secondly, they didn't choose the content that is included in the common core or how it should be assessed.

Thirdly, the point of asking you not to use a calculator is to give you an opportunity to develop your understanding.
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It does seem a little strange doesn't it? Perhaps the idea is to develop your understanding further before using your calculator so you can see patterns/techniques?
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It means don't use a graphical calculator; you should know the graphs of trig functions off by heart.
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Firstly, we don't have exam boards in this country.
What's the difference between an exam board and an awarding body? (I am genuinely asking this)
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Firstly, we don't have exam boards in this country.

Secondly, they didn't choose the content that is included in the common core or how it should be assessed.

Thirdly, the point of asking you not to use a calculator is to give you an opportunity to develop your understanding.
1. Lol, where have you been living? Edexcel, AQA, and etc., what are these?

2. Wasn't debating about content, just its placement/arrangement.

3. Couldn't care less about that just doing this for the grade at the end.
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lol is this really such a big deal
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It means don't use a graphical calculator; you should know the graphs of trig functions off by heart.
The aim in that? The rest of the core modules are calc papers, and so the hell I'll use them. I'm not going waste brain cells on regurgitating info unnecessarily, if they'd have liked that, they could have stuck Chapter 8 in C1, with the additional benefit of balancing the heavy chapter content of C2 (which is a whole other story quite frankly).
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The aim in that?
It will come more naturally to you and develop a better understanding of what's going on, thus improving your performance.
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The aim in that? The rest of the core modules are calc papers, and so the hell I'll use them. I'm not going waste brain cells on regurgitating info unnecessarily, if they'd have liked that, they could have stuck Chapter 8 in C1, with the additional benefit of balancing the heavy chapter content of C2 (which is a whole other story quite frankly).
I was gonna explain why you need to know the graphs but after that I just can't be bothered. :getmecoat:

Also, the book writers can't decide what is in each module. :facepalm:
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The aim in that? The rest of the core modules are calc papers, and so the hell I'll use them. I'm not going waste brain cells on regurgitating info unnecessarily, if they'd have liked that, they could have stuck Chapter 8 in C1, with the additional benefit of balancing the heavy chapter content of C2 (which is a whole other story quite frankly).
Well you don't sound intelligent so you're probably going to fail C2 or get a B at the very best. You see, to get an A you need to have a deep understanding in some topics. The questions are designed to test this understanding.

I'm in Y10 but I liek to study A level maths because it helps me understand GCSE better.
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What's the difference between an exam board and an awarding body? (I am genuinely asking this)
Good question. What might appear on the surface to be a technicality is as stark a difference as living in Benghazi and Tripoli. It is all about control and self-determination.
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(Original post by snow leopard)
1. Lol, where have you been living? Edexcel, AQA, and etc., what are these?

2. Wasn't debating about content, just its placement/arrangement.

3. Couldn't care less about that just doing this for the grade at the end.
1) Those are awarding bodies dear. Best not to argue with a teacher with these matters.

2) Fair enough.

3) Then you're doing the wrong subject, to be quite honest.
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Firstly, we don't have exam boards in this country.

Secondly, they didn't choose the content that is included in the common core or how it should be assessed.

Thirdly, the point of asking you not to use a calculator is to give you an opportunity to develop your understanding.


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I was gonna explain why you need to know the graphs but after that I just can't be bothered. :getmecoat:

Also, the book writers can't decide what is in each module. :facepalm:
The hell they can; they previously rearranged content betwixt D1 and D2 and moreover, completely rewrote the FP series to some extent - not absolutely sure to the level of that though.

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Well you don't sound intelligent so you're probably going to fail C2 or get a B at the very best. You see, to get an A you need to have a deep understanding in some topics. The questions are designed to test this understanding.

I'm in Y10 but I liek to study A level maths because it helps me understand GCSE better.
Lol, how does intelligence sound? The irony.

You don't need a 'deep understanding' at all, you just need familiarity and experience and practice, a levels isn't about the subject, its about passing the exam, you could master all of the modules but without one exam paper you'd 5000% fail. Please don't try to condescend someone who knows fivefold what you're talking about.
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The hell they can; they previously rearranged content betwixt D1 and D2 and moreover, completely rewrote the FP series to some extent - not absolutely sure to the level of that though.
No, different awarding bodies choose the content of the modules not the book writers.
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1) Those are awarding bodies dear. Best not to argue with a teacher with these matters.

2) Fair enough.

3) Then you're doing the wrong subject, to be quite honest.
Oh, so you're a teacher? That means absolutely zilch, sorry, anyone in this country could become a teacher, and they're all dumber than the previous without any orientation for student success. Everyone is constantly let down by them. They're unorganised/unmotivated and only resort to that career because they failed their degree. So you're no one tell me if I'm doing the wrong subject, I like maths, and I'd understand it more deeply if there was no pressure from dumb exams.
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The hell they can; they previously rearranged content betwixt D1 and D2 and moreover, completely rewrote the FP series to some extent - not absolutely sure to the level of that though.



Lol, how does intelligence sound? The irony.

You don't need a 'deep understanding' at all, you just need familiarity and experience and practice, a levels isn't about the subject, its about passing the exam, you could master all of the modules but without one exam paper you'd 5000% fail. Please don't try to condescend someone who knows fivefold what you're talking about.
Now you're just being obtuse and offensive. The authors of textbooks have no authority over what is examined in the module. You do indeed need an understanding of what you're doing - and A-Levels are about the subject. Clearly you don't belong in a Mathematics class - I was nice yesterday when you needed help on C1 differentiation but to be honest it just shows how much work you will have to put in. So don't say that you don't need an understanding, because your misguided 'method' clearly isn't working.
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Oh, so you're a teacher? That means absolutely zilch, sorry, anyone in this country could become a teacher, and they're all dumber than the previous without any orientation for student success. Everyone is constantly let down by them. They're unorganised/unmotivated and only resort to that career because they failed their degree. So you're no one tell me if I'm doing the wrong subject, I like maths, and I'd understand it more deeply if there was no pressure from dumb exams.
No, I'm not. Mr M. is and was the one who pointed it out. And of course I'm somebody to tell you you're doing the wrong subject. Look I'll do it again. You're doing the wrong subject. See, simple.
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