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    (Original post by IceWater)
    Lol nice. You say you earn most graduates, can you expand on that, and what you do?

    What are you hobbies that you'd want to pursue for the next 50 or so years of your life?
    Expand on what I do?

    I build websites, market them, sell them, rent digital real estate to competeing local companie etc.etc I also run some succesful porn blogs (profit from affiliate sales). I earn a few grand a month, considering the average starting graduate wage is what, 24-30k lets say I'm around there for less than 1 day of my week working.

    And hobbies? Well my passion for growing cannabis could easily take up my whole lifetime, building growrooms, experimenting with some advanced aeroponics and hydroponics, trying some guerilla growing, building an underground growroom, making my own custom strain(already started), there is a **** load. I also want to pursue my writing further and eventually write and direct my own movie.
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    I'm a writer, poet, illustrator and musician. The idea of being an accountant horrifies me.
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    I'm certainly not planning on a 9-5, although I haven't thought of an alternative..
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    (Original post by AskMeAnything)
    I'm a writer, poet, illustrator and musician. The idea of being an accountant horrifies me.
    I knew a simple soldier boy
    who grinned at life in empty joy
    slept soundly through the lonesome dark
    and whistled early with the lark.

    In winter trenches cowered and glum
    with crumps and lice and lack of rum
    he put a bullet through his brain
    no one spoke of him again

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    favourite poem all in the head, and heart of course!
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    (Original post by DeanK22)
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    I've seen you on the maths forum

    I'm doing maths at university... I'm guessing you are as well?

    I really have no idea what to do with it but all I know is that I'm not doing the usual "maths graduate jobs" e.g. quant finance, actuary, any corporate stuff :o: the idea of that really depresses me!

    What are you planning on doing? Do you know much about research? I've always had a romanticised idea of being a mathematician who contributes new ideas :o:
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    (Original post by AskMeAnything)
    I'm a writer, poet, illustrator and musician. The idea of being an accountant horrifies me.
    Ditto. I love multitalented people like you though! What are your niches?
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    Lol @ the people who think every job that's 9-5 is boring, I'm going to love the field I'm going into, fact, it's 9-5 and it's good that a lot of people work these hours - I like seeing my family and friends a lot. I've seen how disruptive shift work is to life.

    But then this is also very similar to my plans after a few years:

    (Original post by AreYouDizzeeBlud_x)
    Me.

    I want to set up my own software engineering and web design/development business in the United States. I will work whatever hours I can freelancing at first to build a portfolio but then i'll employ other computer science/web design/software engineering graduates to work for my company.
    ...except for moving to the states, I'll keep it U.K. and then maybe expand as and when
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    (Original post by wactm)
    Expand on what I do?

    I build websites, market them, sell them, rent digital real estate to competeing local companie etc.etc I also run some succesful porn blogs (profit from affiliate sales). I earn a few grand a month, considering the average starting graduate wage is what, 24-30k lets say I'm around there for less than 1 day of my week working.

    And hobbies? Well my passion for growing cannabis could easily take up my whole lifetime, building growrooms, experimenting with some advanced aeroponics and hydroponics, trying some guerilla growing, building an underground growroom, making my own custom strain(already started), there is a **** load. I also want to pursue my writing further and eventually write and direct my own movie.
    Nice, how did you get into doing that. I've always wanted to start my own business or just make money using some skills I have but I really don't know how! E.g. how did you learn about how to build websites and then sell them?

    And how did you manage to make so much :o:. You're going to be a millionaire!

    It seems that when a businessman knows what he's doing, they're very likely to be successful and make **** loads
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    (Original post by J_90)
    Lol @ the people who think every job that's 9-5 is boring, I'm going to love the field I'm going into, fact, it's 9-5 and it's good that a lot of people work these hours - I like seeing my family and friends a lot. I've seen how disruptive shift work is to life.

    But then this is also very similar to my plans after a few years:



    ...except for moving to the states, I'll keep it U.K. and then maybe expand as and when
    I think people who love their 9-5 jobs are lucky... little risk, (relatively) short hours and a job they love! But the thing is, I've rarely come across someone who genuinely loves their job. And I don't mean tolerate e.g. "I love numbers and I'm focussed so I love accountacy". So someone who manages to find a 9-5 that they truly enjoy is in a great spot. I have met a dance teacher (gf's cousin) who seems really content with life as she loves her job and the hours are great and the pay is okay. I think that's better than doing a job you hate and getting paid 5x as much.

    Anyway... what's your field out of curiosity?
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    (Original post by IceWater)
    Do you know much about research? I've always had a romanticised idea of being a mathematician who contributes new ideas :o:
    For almost 10 years [fresher to p.h.d] you have an excellent mathematical life. Unfortunately research afterwards hinges on being a fellow of a University [or college] demanding tutorials from 8 to 5 which are soul corroding (it is basic to the tutor who writes up the same solutions to a problem sheet every hour).

    Aside from this nobody works alone in research because ideas are ripe in a group so even when research begins you have to be quite mathematically relaxed here to take on other view points and run with those, so you do not really get focus until after these groups were you can start to work on the thing all the mathematicians have thought of as the best approach.

    I couldn't think of a more difficult job for someone who just wants to research mathematics and I am being serious, it is tough to stay mentally sharp for 10 hours every day moving to lots of other branches of mathematics due to lectures and tutorials.

    check out GCHQ for a good job (ciphers / code breaker et. al.) that are challenging, have interest, well paid, etc.
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    (Original post by wactm)
    Expand on what I do?

    I build websites, market them, sell them, rent digital real estate to competeing local companie etc.etc I also run some succesful porn blogs (profit from affiliate sales). I earn a few grand a month, considering the average starting graduate wage is what, 24-30k lets say I'm around there for less than 1 day of my week working.

    And hobbies? Well my passion for growing cannabis could easily take up my whole lifetime, building growrooms, experimenting with some advanced aeroponics and hydroponics, trying some guerilla growing, building an underground growroom, making my own custom strain(already started), there is a **** load. I also want to pursue my writing further and eventually write and direct my own movie.
    You sound like my new best friend - no joke I want to get high on your stuff order a pizza and watch some nostalgia critic with you when baked.
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    (Original post by DeanK22)
    For almost 10 years [fresher to p.h.d] you have an excellent mathematical life. Unfortunately research afterwards hinges on being a fellow of a University [or college] demanding tutorials from 8 to 5 which are soul corroding (it is basic to the tutor who writes up the same solutions to a problem sheet every hour).

    Aside from this nobody works alone in research because ideas are ripe in a group so even when research begins you have to be quite mathematically relaxed here to take on other view points and run with those, so you do not really get focus until after these groups were you can start to work on the thing all the mathematicians have thought of as the best approach.

    I couldn't think of a more difficult job for someone who just wants to research mathematics and I am being serious, it is tough to stay mentally sharp for 10 hours every day moving to lots of other branches of mathematics due to lectures and tutorials.

    check out GCHQ for a good job (ciphers / code breaker et. al.) that are challenging, have interest, well paid, etc.
    Thanks for the info Dean (seriously), that's made my view of mathematical research a lot more realistic.

    I don't want to add irrelevant discussion to the thread so do you mind if I private message you a few quick questions about it, I'll be so grateful.
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    (Original post by SteveCrain)
    My name is Steve. I want to work a 9-5 and earn a decent salary with which I can buy a car and support a family, eventually. Frankly I think anyone who doesn't want to work a 9-5 is an idiot and is throwing away a comfortable life.
    My name is Ash. I want to work an 8 - 4AM and earn as basic a salery as I can take from the operation with which I can survive on. Frankly I think people who plumb for the safer options are idiots because they could have missed the oppertunity to spend thier lives doing what they really love, because they were too scared.
    Not to mention they will be completely unprepared when fate throws a spanner in the workings of their comfy little setup.
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    I could tell you, but I'd have to kill you (quite literally) aiming for GCHQ :yep: (or Google)
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    (Original post by IceWater)
    Thanks for the info Dean (seriously), that's made my view of mathematical research a lot more realistic.

    I don't want to add irrelevant discussion to the thread so do you mind if I private message you a few quick questions about it, I'll be so grateful.
    erm if you feel like it there are others on here who might be better to speak to though so ...
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    (Original post by Steve Pavlina)
    5. Way too risky.

    Many employees believe getting a job is the safest and most secure way to support themselves.

    Morons.

    Social conditioning is amazing. It’s so good it can even make people believe the exact opposite of the truth.

    Does putting yourself in a position where someone else can turn off all your income just by saying two words (“You’re fired”) sound like a safe and secure situation to you? Does having only one income stream honestly sound more secure than having 10?

    The idea that a job is the most secure way to generate income is just silly. You can’t have security if you don’t have control, and employees have the least control of anyone. If you’re an employee, then your real job title should be professional gambler.
    From a very inspiring entrepreneurial blog I know.
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    (Original post by IceWater)
    Nice, how did you get into doing that. I've always wanted to start my own business or just make money using some skills I have but I really don't know how! E.g. how did you learn about how to build websites and then sell them?

    And how did you manage to make so much :o:. You're going to be a millionaire!

    It seems that when a businessman knows what he's doing, they're very likely to be successful and make **** loads


    My only answer to your question is this. Google it, I learnt everything I needed to know from the internet in the past 2 years, we are the luckiest generation around, anything you want to know has been discussed on multiple forums hundreds of times.
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    the dream is to become a guitarist in a successful band, but I don't think that is going to happen, but if I could do what I love for a living why shouldn't I? I'm not planning on it, but you never know it could happen.
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    Probably end up on JSA.

    Or working 10 - 6.
 
 
 
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