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    (Original post by ukebert)
    Well the usergroup as Stricof says is controlled by C1. But they don't decide who gets in, the party decides, each request is posted in a thread and people can veto their entry if they want (happens rarely).

    C2 (which is the one that I haven't been) administrates our bills, so makes sure that bills and amendments are submitted on time and accurately. They might have the responsibility of making sure that everyone votes, or that might be C3, can't remember.

    C3 is definitely in charge of making sure that people behave themselves, I remember that because I was C3 when Grape was around. I didn't do a terribly good job.

    I came up with the system I recall and it has seemed to have worked quite well over the years. It breaks down the job of leader to three administrative positions and enables more people to have a direct input in how the party is run. Of course I am sure that most leaders do act as administrators, but we are the only party who specifically are run along those lines.
    Heh, C2 is the only one i haven't been yet either! :p:

    AFAIK, C2 is mainly involved in the proof reading of bills, C3 was involved in whipping (mainly when we had the bloc system) and making sure people behave themselves (as is the case with grape, i don't think we've had problems with anyone else?). With voting it has the flexibility to be either C1 and 3 to be honest, but i'd say it's mostly C3. It's a good division of labour, then again, i don't expect the libs to actually understand the works of Adam Smith so don't expect them to understand it, even in pin manufacturing.

    With the coalition this division of labour proved VERY worthwhile. Deputy C1 rose to the ranks of co-C1; Alasdair would sort out coalition business whilst i'd maintain general party activity (accepting new members, etc), in addition to that you had C2 making sure our bills were of quality and C3 helping out C1 and dept. to ensure everyone was up to scratch. It made the job really easy and kept it fun
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    (Original post by Thunder and Jazz)
    You seem to have a very black and white of what parties are like. This is silly and you should feel silly. Pretty sure the membership has shifted so that most if the original PCP guys are elsewhere i.e. in other parties or have moved on.
    Sorry about the neg.

    I don't feel silly. When the PCP changed to UKIP the reason why it was allowed (without going through the whole formation procedure) was because "this is not a different party", and "UKIP have almost all the same policies as the PCP".

    Either you are now in coalition with PCP policies, or this is not the same party, and UKIP has never actually been formed.
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    (Original post by Musty_Elbow)
    Sorry about the neg.
    Rage of the forefathers etc :p:

    I don't feel silly. When the PCP changed to UKIP the reason why it was allowed (without going through the whole formation procedure) was because "this is not a different party", and "UKIP have almost all the same policies as the PCP".

    Either you are now in coalition with PCP policies, or this is not the same party, and UKIP has never actually been formed.
    Yeah, see, that whole "UKIP have to dissolve and reform to become a new party" thing was always a little... er... shall we say off? I mean, I forget the exact internal circumstances but I seem to remember half the members leaving and the other half voting to change. So the argument that they're still the PCP, while funny at the time, doesn't really wash.

    That and it's been a fair while. The membership has changed. It is not the same party, even if at the time of the switch it had been. I see your point, I just don't give it credence.
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    (Original post by ukebert)
    I came up with the system I recall and it has seemed to have worked quite well over the years. It breaks down the job of leader to three administrative positions and enables more people to have a direct input in how the party is run. Of course I am sure that most leaders do act as administrators, but we are the only party who specifically are run along those lines.
    I came up with the names, which was the best fun of all.
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    (Original post by Adorno)
    I came up with the names, which was the best fun of all.
    So you created the denigration of individual thought :holmes:
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    (Original post by Musty_Elbow)
    Sorry about the neg.

    I don't feel silly. When the PCP changed to UKIP the reason why it was allowed (without going through the whole formation procedure) was because "this is not a different party", and "UKIP have almost all the same policies as the PCP".

    Either you are now in coalition with PCP policies, or this is not the same party, and UKIP has never actually been formed.
    This logic fails.

    UKIP have been formed, irrespective of whether or not they should have been. If I am meant to have a permit to kick you in the **** but kick you in the **** anyway, have I still kicked you in the ****?

    Also, it is perfectly reasonable to assume that, as the members of the PCP voted for a change and these same members had been deemed worthy in the first place this was enough to legitimately have the party change name and policies - but this is neither here nor there here tbh.
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    (Original post by paddy__power)
    So you created the denigration of individual thought :holmes:
    Yes, I was searching for something particularly Soviet, partly to take the piss out of Grape at the time.
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    (Original post by Adorno)
    Yes, I was searching for something particularly Soviet, partly to take the piss out of Grape at the time.
    Grape came back for like a week a while back if I remember.

    Fair enough though, it amuses me.
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    (Original post by paddy__power)
    Grape came back for like a week a while back if I remember.

    Fair enough though, it amuses me.
    Yeah, I can see the funny side of it being me who "denigrates individual thought". Still, the system is a bit clichéd in its communist sillyness. Blame Alasdair, he was always more of a commie than Uke or I.
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    (Original post by Adorno)
    Yeah, I can see the funny side of it being me who "denigrates individual thought". Still, the system is a bit clichéd in its communist sillyness. Blame Alasdair, he was always more of a commie than Uke or I.
    It's a little OTT but I'm sure the champaign socialists love it :yes:
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    (Original post by Adorno)
    I came up with the names, which was the best fun of all.
    You did, and they are the best bit :p: Grape came up with C2 though, because he was it at the time and didn't like your name iirc. Good times.
 
 
 
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