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    (Original post by Stricof)
    You may be right then. And if it is the case, then I propose the Speaker should bloody well vote!
    I don't. Completely erodes his political neutrality (although while Nick is speaker I'm cool with this )
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    (Original post by paddy__power)
    I don't. Completely erodes his political neutrality (although while Nick is speaker I'm cool with this )
    The there should be other ways of tackling this - such as making the number of seats an uneven number or let the Speaker vote (as is conventionally done IRL).
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    (Original post by paddy__power)
    I don't. Completely erodes his political neutrality (although while Nick is speaker I'm cool with this )
    I don't see the problem with it...seems a relatively fair way to break the tie. I feel the Speaker should vote with the Government though
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    (Original post by Stricof)
    The there should be other ways of tackling this - such as making the number of seats an uneven number or let the Speaker vote (as is conventionally done IRL).
    I'm tempted to pass an amendment changing it to 51 seats who would get the extra seat though in mid-term? :holmes:
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    (Original post by Stricof)
    The there should be other ways of tackling this - such as making the number of seats an uneven number or let the Speaker vote (as is conventionally done IRL).

    (Original post by Ham and Cheese)
    I don't see the problem with it...seems a relatively fair way to break the tie. I feel the Speaker should vote with the Government though
    I see no problem with a tie meaning it isn't passed tbh.
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    (Original post by paddy__power)
    I see no problem with a tie meaning it isn't passed tbh.
    Would you second an amendment putting it up to 51 seats up for election?
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    (Original post by Ham and Cheese)
    I'm tempted to pass an amendment changing it to 51 seats who would get the extra seat though in mid-term? :holmes:
    Hold a by-election. :mmm:

    Alternatively just wait for it to be introduced in the following term
    I feel the Speaker should vote with the Government though


    If the Government were split on the vote then this wouldn't work.
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    (Original post by Stricof)
    Hold a by-election. :mmm:

    If the Government were split on the vote then this wouldn't work.
    A by-election would be fun but that would mean we would have to hold by-elections for MPs during the term who resign

    I don't need a seconder for an amendment do I?
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    (Original post by Ham and Cheese)
    Would you second an amendment putting it up to 51 seats up for election?
    No, I think the number of seats should be reduced if anything.
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    (Original post by Ham and Cheese)
    A by-election would be fun but that would mean we would have to hold by-elections for MPs during the term who resign

    I don't need a seconder for an amendment do I?
    Alternatively just ask for the change in the number of seats to be introduced in the following term.

    Don't believe so. Just submit it to the speaker.
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    (Original post by Stricof)
    Alternatively just ask for the change in the number of seats to be introduced in the following term.

    Don't believe so. Just submit it to the speaker.
    I will need four MPs to second it...might pursue this in the morning
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    (Original post by paddy__power)
    No, I think the number of seats should be reduced if anything.
    That means one party would have to sack an MP for no good reason; I'd rather have an extra seat than end someone being an MP mid-term.
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    (Original post by Ham and Cheese)
    That means one party would have to sack an MP for no good reason; I'd rather have an extra seat than end someone being an MP mid-term.
    I mean as a general principle and I would want the number to change at all unless during an election. Take it down to 35 or something.
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    (Original post by Ham and Cheese)
    That means one party would have to sack an MP for no good reason; I'd rather have an extra seat than end someone being an MP mid-term.
    I mean as a general principle and I would want the number to change at all unless during an election.
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    (Original post by paddy__power)
    I mean as a general principle and I would want the number to change at all unless during an election. Take it down to 35 or something.
    35? I like a large House why would you want 35 MPs? :eek:

    In other news, why do we have a Shadow Social Security Minister when there is no Social Security Minister...damn incompetent Tories
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    (Original post by Ham and Cheese)
    Does anyone know what would happen if a bill went into deadlock (25:25); would the Speaker get the vote? :holmes: I also wonder if more people abstained than voted in favour of the bill...unlikely but I wonder what would happen.
    If division on a bill is split 25/25, it doesn't pass. To pass, a bill must have more Ayes than No votes. Abstentions have no effect on the final passage of a bill.

    (Original post by paddy__power)
    I don't. Completely erodes his political neutrality (although while Nick is speaker I'm cool with this )
    (Original post by Stricof)
    The there should be other ways of tackling this - such as making the number of seats an uneven number or let the Speaker vote (as is conventionally done IRL).
    (Original post by Ham and Cheese)
    I don't see the problem with it...seems a relatively fair way to break the tie. I feel the Speaker should vote with the Government though
    In the event that the Speaker uses the casting vote IRL, he would by convention follow the Denison rule.
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    (Original post by Ham and Cheese)
    35? I like a large House why would you want 35 MPs? :eek:

    In other news, why do we have a Shadow Social Security Minister when there is no Social Security Minister...damn incompetent Tories
    What do you think the Secretary of State for Work and Pensions is responsible for? :rolleyes:
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    Sadly yes, but I lived!
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