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    (Original post by toronto353)
    I'm fine, thanks for asking and yourself?
    Pretty good. Archer Series 2 is out so all hopes of doing an essay are totally gone.
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    (Original post by Teaddict)
    But Obama was meant to be America's saviour... it's new hope. Or more realistically, he is like Nick Clegg - sounds good but in practice is just awful.
    I believe it to be a case of it being utterly impossible for him to live up to his pre-election reputation. This sums it up perfectly.
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    Love Jon Heder.
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    (Original post by Nothos)
    I believe it to be a case of it being utterly impossible for him to live up to his pre-election reputation. This sums it up perfectly.
    I can't find the original metro cartoon, but it was along these lines:

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    Sorry I got distracted by 2 hour long documentary about the history of Channel 4. What a brilliant channel.

    (Original post by Ham and Cheese)
    What's your opinion on crime prevention? (CCTV, police on the beat etc)
    I'm not a uber-radical Libertarian type who waxes lyrical about privatising the police force. I'm not saying there aren't interesting and convincing arguments to be had but I'm a pragmatist at heart and apart from a bit of reorganisation and refocusing I think the idea of a public police force should continue as-is.

    As far as CCTV goes I don't think it's an effective method of prevention of crime. I think it has its advantages such as use in city centres on Friday and Saturday nights and on unstaffed train stations but what we've got right now is total overkill. People sat 24 hours a day watching banks of screens of entire towns is just sinister and an infringement on the basic right to personal privacy. I'd like to see a huge reduction in the amount of CCTV cameras in this country but it's not that easy, I'm at a bit of a loss about how to reduce usage but there we go.

    Now I'm not going to go on a rant about police methods and the right to protest but it should be known that I am very much in support of (and will draft a bill to this effect) repealing SOCPA and reams of other New Labour legislation that restricts freedom of speech and the right to peaceful protest.

    What's your opinion on convicted criminals? (more a case of punishment or rehabilitation).
    I'm a Liberal with a big L. Socially and economically. I am a stringent believer in rehabilitation. Of course punishment is important but it shouldn't be the primary aim of sentencing. I'd like to reduce the prison population and decriminalise (notice: not legalise) drugs starting with cannabis (another bill in the works). I'd like to shift the emphasis from the drug addict as criminal and aggressor to the drug addict as victim and as someone to be rehabilitated.

    Oh and this snippet from LPUK's manifesto which I really like "Establish a parliamentary Standing Committee to review all legislation enacted over the past 30+ years with the remit to propose repeal unless absolutely necessary. Such unnecessary legislation is expected to include ASBOs and on-the-spot fines."
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    (Original post by Norfolkadam)
    I think it's very condescending to think that people are so stupid they need to have things like this banned that they couldn't just put a sticker on their door saying "No Cold Callers" or simply close the door on people they don't want to talk to.

    (Original post by Ham and Cheese)
    Why? We can simply ban them all together; saves the time and effort. Plus there is no assurance that people won't call on the door anyway. As I have said, it would be very easy for a salesperson to manipulate an elderly resident at the door and them signing up to all sorts of things. We either need a ban or a 'do not call' list like the in the USA.
    As a coldcaller we were trained to ignore the 'do not call' signs, also, high pressure selling targets the weakest, it really is a terrible practice.
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    (Original post by paperclip)
    As a coldcaller we were trained to ignore the 'do not call' signs.
    As in people you aren't supposed to call? so this is why I still get called by the same company even though I have said they should stop calling (as there is no business on the premises)?

    Is there not a legal boundary here somewhere?
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    (Original post by paperclip)
    As a coldcaller we were trained to ignore the 'do not call' signs, also, high pressure selling targets the weakest, it really is a terrible practice.
    Anyone who would do that is a horrible, horrible person :flute:

    But in all seriousness, I agree. The block of flats I live in used to be a sort of old people's community and still is mostly made up of older people (The next youngest person in my block after myself and Vienna is about 55), and we still get a lot of knocks from shady characters who try to sell us God knows what.
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    (Original post by paperclip)
    As a coldcaller we were trained to ignore the 'do not call' signs, also, high pressure selling targets the weakest, it really is a terrible practice.
    Well then maybe something does need to be done if people are ignoring the "Do not call" signs. Then it starts to become an invasion into people's private property. Perhaps a new clause in some trespassing act?
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    (Original post by tehFrance)
    As in people you aren't supposed to call? so this is why I still get called by the same company even though I have said they should stop calling (as there is no business on the premises)?

    Is there not a legal boundary here somewhere?
    Door to door coldcaller.

    I'm not sure if there is a legal boundary, though if there is for selling we would have got around it because i was offering quotations that involved people coming to your house and then giving you a very high pressured talk for about 2 hours.

    ...if someone comes to my house for that i'd just do it so the guy gets the commission and i can piss around with the sales team though :p:
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    I don't understand why anyone would do cold calling, but I guess a job is a job.
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    (Original post by Norfolkadam)
    Well then maybe something does need to be done if people are ignoring the "Do not call" signs. Then it starts to become an invasion into people's private property. Perhaps a new clause in some trespassing act?
    You could of course remove their implied right of access, which is what allows people such as post men onto your property, so they can do their job. Problem is you can't do a blanket removal on certain things, only specific companies.
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    (Original post by paperclip)
    Door to door coldcaller.

    I'm not sure if there is a legal boundary, though if there is for selling we would have got around it because i was offering quotations that involved people coming to your house and then giving you a very high pressured talk for about 2 hours.

    ...if someone comes to my house for that i'd just do it so the guy gets the commission and i can piss around with the sales team though :p:
    Oh Door to Door well wouldn't it be more or less the same?

    I get the odd door to door, get them to show me what they have for sale then say no thanks... it leaves them quite peeved
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    You get the people with the cards "I am from X, please give me X so I can do X" and if you say no they just stand there. I don't really care if they knock but you would assume whoever wrote the card would teach them a few words....
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    (Original post by paperclip)
    As a coldcaller we were trained to ignore the 'do not call' signs, also, high pressure selling targets the weakest, it really is a terrible practice.
    You sir are worse than Hitler. Good job? :p:
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    (Original post by Norfolkadam)
    I'm a Liberal with a big L. Socially and economically. I am a stringent believer in rehabilitation. Of course punishment is important but it shouldn't be the primary aim of sentencing. I'd like to reduce the prison population and decriminalise (notice: not legalise) drugs starting with cannabis (another bill in the works). I'd like to shift the emphasis from the drug addict as criminal and aggressor to the drug addict as victim and as someone to be rehabilitated.
    Why not legalise?

    Why keep in place penalties for supply or possession of a substance that might do them harm, but no-one else in the large majority of cases (and where it does, we have laws to cover the infringement on people's rights and we should punish the crime, not the non-harming majority [or even minority if that were the case]). Sure, I can understand there could be a need to tax it, because of the externalities involved when we have socialised healthcare, or to regulate amounts, and times of sale, and have age restrictions - but I can't see the need to not legalise drugs of all kinds.
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    (Original post by jesusandtequila)
    Why not legalise?

    Why keep in place penalties for supply or possession of a substance that might do them harm, but no-one else in the large majority of cases (and where it does, we have laws to cover the infringement on people's rights and we should punish the crime, not the non-harming majority [or even minority if that were the case]). Sure, I can understand there could be a need to tax it, because of the externalities involved when we have socialised healthcare, or to regulate amounts, and times of sale, and have age restrictions - but I can't see the need to not legalise drugs of all kinds.
    I'd certainly legalise marijuana tomorrow but the pragmatist in me just thinks that legalising heroin or crack cocaine is too rash. I don't know, I mean I'm sure you could convince me (you always convince me ) but it's a lot easier to get support for decriminalisation
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    So guys, what's going on?
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    Watching **** films.

    Tried a few avatars I didn't like so settled for this one.

    Apart from this looking at stuff on amazon.
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    (Original post by paddy__power)
    Watching **** films.

    Tried a few avatars I didn't like so settled for this one.

    Apart from this looking at stuff on amazon.
    http://www.getinvisiblehand.com/

    Waste hours finding where stuff's cheaper.
 
 
 
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