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    (Original post by Ham and Cheese)
    You are way ahead in the table on this thread :rolleyes:
    Already :emo:
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    (Original post by Ham and Cheese)
    Good luck with both lines of work

    You should come work with me at my place it was dead so I ate junk all day and drunk slush puppies :cool:
    If you were near me I genuinely would :lol:
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    (Original post by paddy__power)
    If you were near me I genuinely would :lol:
    It would be fun :awesome:

    Or simply make one hell of a commute to South West London
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    (Original post by Ham and Cheese)
    Good luck with both lines of work

    You should come work with me at my place it was dead so I ate junk all day and drunk slush puppies :cool:
    What? For free?
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    (Original post by Metrobeans)
    What? For free?
    Yes and no

    Technically its not allowed but I was working in the Café so it was all underhand and wink wink

    A keen manager will come in about once every 15 minutes and the rest will come in about once every hour or so unless we call for them so its a free reign to eat/drink
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    (Original post by arabcnesbit)
    Sorry I don't think that last link worked. Here http://www.thestudentroom.co.uk/showthread.php?t=1604622

    On the above discussion I went on to say pupils should be split into classes according to their needs but if you are constantly misbehaving it's clearly a waste of everyone's time and money to educate you.

    If someone doesn't want to learn, what's the point in trying to teach them?
    You have to question why they don't want to learn?

    Some people, like me, just don't give a **** at school but some people have causes for their behaviour - abusive home-lives, a need for acceptance etcetc ad infinitum.

    You are doing them, or society, no good by just giving up. There are schools set up in some places with problems with such students that take those who are thrown out of school. There are also programmes for distance learning and times as centres. I have intimate knowledge of these things.
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    (Original post by Ham and Cheese)
    It would be fun :awesome:

    Or simply make one hell of a commute to South West London
    Free food and slushies works for me, and money for rent.
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    (Original post by paddy__power)
    Free food and slushies works for me, and money for rent.
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    (Original post by paddy__power)
    You have to question why they don't want to learn?

    Some people, like me, just don't give a **** at school but some people have causes for their behaviour - abusive home-lives, a need for acceptance etcetc ad infinitum.

    You are doing them, or society, no good by just giving up. There are schools set up in some places with problems with such students that take those who are thrown out of school. There are also programmes for distance learning and times as centres. I have intimate knowledge of these things.
    I was one of those pupils that didn't give a s**t. It was only when I was kicked out that I had to either get my act together or go through the whole of my life not caring about anything.

    I would suggest the reason why so many kids don't enjoy school is because of the "one fits all" policy of successive governments. If pupils were treated more like consumers of education rather than "beneficiaries" of the states monopoly, then we would have schools set up to cater for the pupils not for the whims of whatever government happens to be in power.
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    http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-13115874

    I hope we won't let them all flood to Britain.
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    (Original post by Ham and Cheese)
    http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-13115874

    I hope we won't let them all flood to Britain.
    What else do you suggest mr mosley?
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    let's be wary of making generalisations about misbehaving kids not wanting to be at school, and the reasons for their behaviour.
    (Original post by Ham and Cheese)
    http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-13115874

    I hope we won't let them all flood to Britain.
    Unlikely to be a flood
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    (Original post by Adorno)
    I often worked those events. It was quite hard to break down perceptions because the very things that put people off do exist. I hope they were of some use to people but couldn't be sure.
    I think it was, at least amongst the people I was with. To be honest, based on what I know now, I probably still wouldn't fit in quite a few circles and as you say, there is truth in some of the perceptions, but we left with a more favourable opinion of the university. I remember being surprised that tuition fees at Oxford were the same as at all the other universities and impressed at the level of grants available.
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    (Original post by arabcnesbit)
    I was one of those pupils that didn't give a s**t. It was only when I was kicked out that I had to either get my act together or go through the whole of my life not caring about anything.

    I would suggest the reason why so many kids don't enjoy school is because of the "one fits all" policy of successive governments. If pupils were treated more like consumers of education rather than "beneficiaries" of the states monopoly, then we would have schools set up to cater for the pupils not for the whims of whatever government happens to be in power.
    Consumer of education. Words cannot express how dim that notion is.
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    (Original post by arabcnesbit)
    I was one of those pupils that didn't give a s**t. It was only when I was kicked out that I had to either get my act together or go through the whole of my life not caring about anything.

    I would suggest the reason why so many kids don't enjoy school is because of the "one fits all" policy of successive governments. If pupils were treated more like consumers of education rather than "beneficiaries" of the states monopoly, then we would have schools set up to cater for the pupils not for the whims of whatever government happens to be in power.
    I've also been thrown out, of multiple schools (I never did get my act together though), and disagree here but I think it is a matter of perspective and opinion so there isn't much to gain from trying to persuade you otherwise as you have your own experiences

    There are many things schools need to improve on, but I don't think that the above would effect this. There would still be pupils that hated the system they were part of and such a system would create more problems than it fixes IMO by creating an even larger disparity between types of provision.
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    (Original post by Adorno)
    What else do you suggest mr mosley?
    Mr Mosley?

    I suggest that they travel to the nearest country of refuge. They would be safe in Spain, France, Italy, Greece, Turkey etc. I'm not saying we should refuse all asylum seekers and we should definitely take a proportion of the refugees but other countries closer to Libya and with greater space who have the broadest shoulders for this process should play their part.

    Would you not agree?
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    (Original post by Adorno)
    Consumer of education. Words cannot express how dim that notion is.
    To a socialist perhaps. But your system of education has clearly failed so lets try something different.
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    (Original post by paddy__power)
    I've also been thrown out, of multiple schools (I never did get my act together though), and disagree here but I think it is a matter of perspective and opinion so there isn't much to gain from trying to persuade you otherwise as you have your own experiences

    There are many things schools need to improve on, but I don't think that the above would effect this. There would still be pupils that hated the system they were part of and such a system would create more problems than it fixes IMO by creating an even larger disparity between types of provision.
    The point is under the above scenario there wouldn't be a system as such. The pupils (and there parents) would choose an education suitable for them. If a suitable system wasn't in place, under a free market, someone would fill that niche and create one.

    In this way every pupils need would be catered for.
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    (Original post by arabcnesbit)
    To a socialist perhaps. But your system of education has clearly failed so lets try something different.
    Why has it clearly failed? Also, a socialist system of education is not what this country has.
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