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    Purely subjective. By your logic I could say that Saddam Hussein was the best 'Fuhrer' since Hitler.
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    They're both bad in my opinion.
    They benefit the rich not the middle class or poor.
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    (Original post by The_Great_One)
    So giving people the right to buy their council house isnt a good thing??
    No it isn't; many of the houses were sold off below their replacement cost.
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    (Original post by lawbot)
    I agree, he is the best since thatcher.
    He has made one or two foolish errors but this is understandable as he is still pretty new in the job.


    His direction can be a little erratic, but this is because he has to appease the lib dems in the coalition.
    When the conservatives win a landslide in the next election, expect to see the best prime minister since churchill.
    What about Atlee? Now there was a true (Understated) hero.
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    (Original post by *Hakz*)
    Margaret Thatcher or the so called 'Iron Lady' was probably the most dominant female prime minister in the history of the UK.
    She was the only female prime minister in the history of the UK, dip****. By definition she was also the least dominant female prime minister, the most left wing female prime minister, the most likely female prime minister to defect to the BNP, the most likely female prime minister to defect to labour and the female prime minister that most resembles Charlie Sheen.

    Credit where credit is due though - I may disagree with almost everything she ever did, but the woman has balls of steel.
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    (Original post by AskMeAnything)
    Moving on to Cameron, I can see a few comparisons. He is a political reformer, really the co-alition has done more in their first year than Tony Blair's first five. They are moving along at a speed that most commentators say is faster than Thatchers - and they are tackling issues that even she balked at, such as the NHS. The problem is Cameron's spine more than anything else. You saw today and yesterday - Inflation down, Unemployment down - yes it's early days, but nobody expected either of these indicators. In four years, when the economy is strong and the government can start to bring in more popular policies - tax cuts, tackling the EU, et cetera - you mark my words, TSR will be abuzz with quite sudden conservative converts who will claim to have been a supporter all along.
    Actually, the economy is doing worse than independent authorities were predicting it to at this time under labours policies. I don't even particularly like Labour. Then again I haven't yet heard of a political party that I haven't thought is chatting **** on the majority of its policies, so.
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    (Original post by James82)
    For socialists maybe, a massive increase in the state, but he had no idea how to run the economy and had it not been for American intervention this country would have gone bankrupt. Thanks to his socialist policies it took us 60 years to repay the debts incurred for his socialist experiment.
    Eh hello, Unemployment was a fraction of that of today. The country was bankrupt after World War 2 and Keynes negotiated a low interest loan from America to rebuild the UK; not to mention the fact that he set up a little thing we like to call the NHS which the Torys opposed.
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    (Original post by The_Great_One)
    So giving people the right to buy their council house isnt a good thing??
    That was a Labour policy, decades ago.
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    (Original post by Captain Crash)
    BS


    The UK was in deficit when Labour inherited it and they continually built up a surplus until 2001.


    A stable deficit of ~2% is both sustainable and potentially desirable. If we removed that element of the deficit, we would still be ~8% right now - still a huge budget deficit.
    Maybe as a percentage of GDP, but the ONS shows the surplus in FY98 (April '97 - April'98) at £6.9bn, so I stand by the fact that there was a surplus when Labour came to power.

    And 8% might be a huge deficit, but 12% is 50% bigger, using your forecasts above it's going to take us 4 years just to get down to the post early 90's recession levels of deficit.

    Forgetting the cause of the problems, there are two ways to deal with it, firstly the favoured Labour way of spending and inflating your way out of trouble (What was it, 27% inflation under Callaghan?) or the Conservative way of cutting back the state and using interest rates as a mechanism to control inflation. You pays your money and you takes your choice.
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    (Original post by Superhans121)
    Haha, you have basic grasp of AS level politics and you're trying to wheel it out wherever possible. Tell us about separation of powers next...
    Tune in next academic year for part 2...
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    (Original post by PendulumBoB)
    Eh hello, Unemployment was a fraction of that of today. The country was bankrupt after World War 2 and Keynes negotiated a low interest loan from America to rebuild the UK; not to mention the fact that he set up a little thing we like to call the NHS which the Torys opposed.
    And so did most of the country and doctors at the time, besides most of the bills for the NHS were passed through the commons in the last two years of the war under a coalition government.

    If the NHS was economically affordable why had Atlee introduced prescription charges, dental fees and opticians fees by the time he left office? Incidentally prescription charges were later scrapped and then reintroduced by Labour in the sixties.
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    (Original post by Muscovite)
    There are people DYING in Africa you tit.
    I didn't say they weren't... But why send money to Pakistan?
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    (Original post by PendulumBoB)
    What about Atlee? Now there was a true (Understated) hero.
    Um, he was before Thatcher, but too many economic weaknesses to be put into the same league as Thatcher.
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    (Original post by Muscovite)
    There are people DYING in Africa you tit.
    Yep, and by propping up an unsustainable population it's going to keep happening.
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    (Original post by James82)
    Um, he was before Thatcher, but too many economic weaknesses to be put into the same league as Thatcher.
    Someone said that Thatcher was the best leader since Churchill (Oh and no tricks mentioning Churchills second spell in charge, I've got my eye on you)
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    (Original post by James82)
    And so did most of the country and doctors at the time, besides most of the bills for the NHS were passed through the commons in the last two years of the war under a coalition government.

    If the NHS was economically affordable why had Atlee introduced prescription charges, dental fees and opticians fees by the time he left office? Incidentally prescription charges were later scrapped and then reintroduced by Labour in the sixties.
    But surely without an NHS all presriptions would have been charged for anyway?
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    (Original post by PendulumBoB)
    Someone said that Thatcher was the best leader since Churchill (Oh and no tricks mentioning Churchills second spell in charge, I've got my eye on you)
    Yes, but not the post that you replied to, which says in the opening sentence the best since Thatcher.
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    "David Cameron the best PM since Thatcher"

    Sounds like the title of a propaganda film.
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    (Original post by PendulumBoB)
    But surely without an NHS all presriptions would have been charged for anyway?
    Yes, but only the cost of the drugs, a lot of drugs are actually more expensive on the NHS than they are privately because the prescription charge is higher than the cost of the drugs.
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    (Original post by ch0llima)
    "David Cameron the best PM since Thatcher"

    Sounds like the title of a propaganda film.
    To be fair he's only got 3 people to beat, the least charismatic PM ever and the two PMs who led us into the worst peacetime financial crisis this country has ever seen. I'm not sure how he can really lose on the face of it.
 
 
 
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