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I've been a sadist for as long as I can remember

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Original post by jessie6693
So basically what you're arguing is that everything that makes anyone different, sexually or otherwise, can be seen as a mental disorder. The legality of S&M is only an issue if they are seeking sexual gratification without consent, which would be considered, at the very least, sexual harrasment. However, to say that practitioners of S&M are more likely to take their desires out on non-consenting partners is ridiculous and offensive. It's the equivalent of thinking that all Gay people will try and have sex with you just because you are the same sex as them.

If finding sexual gratification from giving or receiving pain does not negatively impact your personal or professional life, then why should it still be considered a "problem"?

I hate to burst your hetero-normative bubble, but many people experiment sexually. The reason why much of this experimentation is considered "taboo" is because of conservative people like you who want to classify everything outside the norm as a "mental abnormality".


I'm not saying they WILL try and take their desires out on non-consenting partners, just that their DESIRE to cause pain is unlikely to be limited only to consenting partners. The gay guys I know do sometimes lust after straight guys, and I've definitely found gay guys sexually attractive before. You don't have to actually do anything illegal for your thoughts to be considered unhealthy/psychologically abnormal.

An extreme example: a person can have psychopathic tendencies without actually going ahead and actually killing a whole bunch of people.

I'm going to go ahead and tell you that I've experienced S&M before, in a submissive capacity. It turns me on, but I'm not exactly sure its mentally healthy for me to get off on pain and humiliation. I've also noticed that the worse I am feeling about myself the more thats the sort of sexual experience I seek out, almost like self harming in some ways. I can't be the only person who feels the same way, and its not unreasonable to ask whether apparent consent is enough in that situation.
Original post by TickTockBoom
I'm not saying they WILL try and take their desires out on non-consenting partners, just that their DESIRE to cause pain is unlikely to be limited only to consenting partners. The gay guys I know do sometimes lust after straight guys, and I've definitely found gay guys sexually attractive before. You don't have to actually do anything illegal for your thoughts to be considered unhealthy/psychologically abnormal.

An extreme example: a person can have psychopathic tendencies without actually going ahead and actually killing a whole bunch of people.

I'm going to go ahead and tell you that I've experienced S&M before, in a submissive capacity. It turns me on, but I'm not exactly sure its mentally healthy for me to get off on pain and humiliation. I've also noticed that the worse I am feeling about myself the more thats the sort of sexual experience I seek out, almost like self harming in some ways. I can't be the only person who feels the same way, and its not unreasonable to ask whether apparent consent is enough in that situation.


Why is it unlikely to be limited to a consenting partner? That's like saying it's likely that they will molest someone or even rape them, which is ridiculous. Just because someone isn't straight as an arrow doesn't mean that they are automatically a perverted deviant.

Gay people sometimes lust after straight guys, sure, but it doesn't mean that they're going to rape them in the butt! Just like straight guys have crushes on girls it doesn't mean that they are going to attack those girls.

People are allowed to have their own private thoughts without you, or some phsychiatrist telling them how abnormal and horrible they are. This is why people are so afraid to come out of the closet, or to experiment with their sexuality.

You have experimented, but obviously your own distorted views of sexuality have made you afraid of enjoying a sexual experience. I'm going to say it again, if you enjoy experiencing or inflicting pain, and it doesn't affect your life professionally or personally, why is it unhealthy?

Obviously, you have some psychological problems, not with sexuality, but with fear of yourself. You are afraid to be different, and thus to project that fear upon everyone else.
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Original post by DONTBUGME
I think everyone has done these things. Got any more recent examples which aren't in young childhood?


Probably true, yes I posted one in another post and there are just countless more I wouldn't want to elaborate on.
Bit worrying, mate!
Your gonna be a creep when you're 60.
Original post by Selkarn
Only a few months ago me and a female friend were play fighting, my sadistic urges took over and I started being very rough with her and ended up making her cry. Obviously things like that make me ponder the whole thing..



and so how did you feel when you made her cry? Did you have any regret/guilt, or was the fact she was upset purely a turn-on?
You might want to see a psychiatrist. That isn't meant to be an insult, but that kind of behaviour isn't normal if you didn't feel guilty and took pleasure out of hurting other children when you were younger and still enjoy hurting people today as an adult.

If it's a sexual fantasy it's probably best off kept to consenting adults.
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Original post by joey11223
and so how did you feel when you made her cry? Did you have any regret/guilt, or was the fact she was upset purely a turn-on?


I didn't feel any guilt at all because I thought that she secretly liked it, and to be fair, she probably did. I think that might be a worthy point actually, in my later teenage years I've been exposed to girls who like being submissive and are into being tied up, gently bitten, being teased, being treated rough, being pounded hard in the bedroom, having their hair pulled, etc which has only exacerbated the problem. Are you like me?

Original post by SpicyStrawberry
You might want to see a psychiatrist. That isn't meant to be an insult, but that kind of behaviour isn't normal if you didn't feel guilty and took pleasure out of hurting other children when you were younger and still enjoy hurting people today as an adult.


I would, but I don't know how to go about that. I can't go to my family GP.. wouldn't it just be a crazy thing to say, too?
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Reply 28
Original post by meenu89
Yes me too, oh wait, No.


"Please rate some other members before rating this member again."

Damn you to hell tsr.
Original post by Selkarn
I didn't feel any guilt at all because I thought that she secretly liked it, and to be fair, she probably did. I think that might be a worthy point actually, in my later teenage years I've been exposed to girls who like being submissive and are into being tied up, gently bitten, being teased, being treated rough, being pounded hard in the bedroom, having their hair pulled, etc which has only exacerbated the problem. Are you like me?


I am not I'm afraid. I'm the opposite..well not completely..but...although I can envisage scenarios of domination and them being enjoyable, in reality It just isn't me. I certainly couldn't cope with anyone crying, I can't stand crying, it makes me upset too and I'd just to hold and comfort them until they were better.
I think it's quite funny how quick to tell OP that he is fine as long as it's with a consenting partner.

Just because he's a sadist doesn't mean he's a rapist.

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