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    I take comfort from the fact that a lot of people waste thousands going to a private school. Many of these institutions will take just about anyone so long as they can pay. This means they are increasingly filled with rude agressive Russians and Chinese with incredibly poor English. Having these jokers putting money into the UK economy and spoiling things for nouveau riche Brits is a huge laugh.
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    You can't stop people from buying education or healthcare.

    If anything, it puts less strain on the tax payer. Imagine if the 1000s of public school kids had to start going to state schools, there is already a funding crisis.

    In a fair world everybody would get the top standard of education, unfortunately, we live in the real world and idealistic policies like banning private schools would cause far too many problems for the country, mostly economically. Private school kids go on to be high earners. High earners = high tax payers.
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    3 schools in my town

    1 regular state
    1 rough state (both states are now an 'academy')
    1 private

    out of the 3, looking back i'd prefer the private. once out of school and in college that was my first experience with the people from the private schools, and these particular people were intelligent, friendly and funny. something that the others lacked considerably.

    if i eventually have kids and i have the ability to send them to private school, that is what i'll do. unless somehow the quality of state schooling goes up tremendously, but really, how likely is that? there's still going to be the same ******** council house chav underclass in 10-15 years so it's very unlikely indeed.
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    We shouldn't be worrying about shutting down private schools we should be trying to make our public schools better.
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    (Original post by Ocassus)
    it will stay.
    Hello just to say that I'm now back at uni so won't be on the TSR etc. However will resume this debate at a later stage!
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    Isn't this a bit topic a bit pointless? In the end we become socialists, (anybody remember a spongebob epispode of him changinig into a happy 'socalist' like others?)

    There should be a balance, and I'd say that currently there is a balance. Just carry on with your life...

    Or we could each share everything rationally... One banana for you, one banana for me. My name is bob, your name is bob. I went to bobschool, you went to bobschool.
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    (Original post by 098)
    Hello just to say that I'm now back at uni so won't be on the TSR etc. However will resume this debate at a later stage!
    Okie dokie. :teeth:
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    I have had miserable times at english state schools and an all girls private school in the midlands. My education really started to benefit once we mved to remote scotland, we had really small classes and tons of attention from teachers. I don't really object to private education, I guess it works for some and if people want to spend tons of money to un clog our state schools then they should feel free. What I really didn't like was being at an all girls school. They tear apart the fat ones with monobrows :/
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    no they should not be banned
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    Public schools are fine, they do a lot for society (my old school provides lots of bursaries, let the local community use the incredible facilities, let the teachers help out at local schools etc)

    Yes, I went to a very prestigious public school but my dad went to his local comprehensive in Lancashire. He worked hard and won a place at the local grammar school and then managed to win a place at medical school...

    If you are intelligent then you will be able to succeed with or without the private/state school education.

    Bring back grammar schools.
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    So basically, I shouldn't strive to give my children the best I can? I should give them the best less privileged people can?

    NO.

    I worked to get where I am.

    I'm going to work harder still to climb higher.

    And I'm going to enjoy the rewards of all my hard work.

    And before the torrents of haters and the neg train hit... I'm not from some over privileged back ground. I went to a state school (And an absolutely crap one at that seems as it's now in special measures). So I'm middle class at best.

    But I have no intentions to be punished for striving to achieve something with my life.
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    (Original post by Adman32)
    A friend of mine comes from a relatively wealthy family and went to the same school as me up to last year. In September he left and enrolled in a private school. But I, and most people I know, would never be able to afford this.

    I know many on this forum are indeed from private schools, so please try and be neutral.

    Perhaps I'm too far on the left, but in my opinion noone should better opportunities simply because of parental wealth. All people should be born equal, and should find success with hard work and ability, not money.
    Completley agree, but our current state school system couldnt cope with the extra influx of students, who wouldn't be paying more money. Unless you put taxes us, which would be unfair to the poorer population, so it would ave to be yet another 'wealth' tax
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    (Original post by Adman32)
    Perhaps I'm too far on the left, but in my opinion noone should better opportunities simply because of parental wealth. All people should be born equal, and should find success with hard work and ability, not money.
    Sure, but this merely means that we should open up private education to the masses - it doesn't mean you should ban the schools that provide the best education to yet further lower the standard of education in the country (and if they're not providing the best education, then there's no inequality of opportunity).
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    (Original post by Acerbic)
    At the least private schools should not receive tax breaks in the form of having charity status. But a broader policy to reduce income inequality might be more effective. European countries tend to have far lower rates of private education, as well as lower income inequality. Just a suggestion. But it might be wise to treat private schools as a symptom of a larger problem, rather than the problem the problem itself.
    Has it ever occurred to anyone that private schools save taxpayers' money anyway?? They mean pupils can be taught, but be paid for privately, reducing the strain on the state sector. Fine, tax private schools then. But the one Im at would no longer be obliged to give free swimming lessons to mothers, lease the astroturf for free to (my old) primary school down the road etc. Think about consequences :argh:. If mine shut down because fees had to rise due to loss of income due to tax being raised, Id go to the local state sixth form, a very good one, and then everyone would say 'this rich kid just took some poor guys' place, what a dou***'. I am on a scholarship, as are two of my mates. Private schools in this country have served me far better than the state sector, and that is the root of our problems, not private schools.
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    (Original post by Chazzer66)
    Has it ever occurred to anyone that private schools save taxpayers' money anyway?? They mean pupils can be taught, but be paid for privately, reducing the strain on the state sector. Fine, tax private schools then. But the one Im at would no longer be obliged to give free swimming lessons to mothers, lease the astroturf for free to (my old) primary school down the road etc. Think about consequences :argh:. If mine shut down because fees had to rise due to loss of income due to tax being raised, Id go to the local state sixth form, a very good one, and then everyone would say 'this rich kid just took some poor guys' place, what a dou***'. I am on a scholarship, as are two of my mates. Private schools in this country have served me far better than the state sector, and that is the root of our problems, not private schools.
    I don't condone banning private schools, rather taking away their status as charities which actually costs £100m in lost tax revenue. I also think it's perfectly feasible to legislate to ensure that the access to facilities currently given by private schools to state schools remains as it is.
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    (Original post by Acerbic)
    I don't condone banning private schools, rather taking away their status as charities which actually costs £100m in lost tax revenue. I also think it's perfectly feasible to legislate to ensure that the access to facilities currently given by private schools to state schools remains as it is.
    This is despite the fact that in order to remain charities, they must demonstrate considerable public benefit? They clearly do, as enforced by the Charities Commission, and so you'd lose all of that public benefit (including pooling of facilities and teachers with poorly performing schools, public use of facilities, considerable bursaries etc.)
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    (Original post by Acerbic)
    I don't condone banning private schools, rather taking away their status as charities which actually costs £100m in lost tax revenue. I also think it's perfectly feasible to legislate to ensure that the access to facilities currently given by private schools to state schools remains as it is.
    Will never happen. Even if it did, that would force private schools to close;
    So private schools cost £100 million in lost tax?? They save the tax payer over £1 billion (one source over £2 billion) a year in ecucation costs for 7% of all children :giggle: The taxpayer would lose!!
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    (Original post by Chazzer66)
    Will never happen. Even if it did, that would force private schools to close;
    So private schools cost £100 million in lost tax?? They save the tax payer over £1 billion (one source over £2 billion) a year in ecucation costs for 7% of all children :giggle: The taxpayer would lose!!
    If you want to be so deluded as to think that the loss of £100m would cause all private schools to close down, then I can't be bothered to write much more than this.
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    (Original post by Acerbic)
    If you want to be so deluded as to think that the loss of £100m would cause all private schools to close down, then I can't be bothered to write much more than this.
    That's fine. But don't expect private schools to keep on allowing the local communities/state schools the use of their facilities (for free) and the many bursaries that are offered (quite rightly) to those who can't afford but are talented enough to win a place at a private school.
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    They should not be banned - for the same reason that the private healthcare should not be banned.
 
 
 
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