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    Of course private schooling (or any other form of "silver spoon" should be banned)
    It is unacceptable that some people are given the reasorces to do anything they want while others are not even given enough needed to get out of being trapped in dead end minimum wage jobs.

    as for all these absurd comments about pearents who have worked hard having a right to give their kids anything they want

    it is the kid who is the benficiary not the pearents
    the kid has not worked at all, it is the pearents who have worked
    the fact that one person has worked hard cannot be transfered to another
    theirfore the kid is NOT entitled to more opportunity than another person is given

    also if a person goes to private school he is NOT paying for it
    it is being paid for him so this voids all arguments about a person having a right to spend his money as he wants.
    if someone with rich pearents has a right to have his pearents pay for a better education then a person from a poor background has the right so have the taxpayer or a scholarship pay or a better education.

    he has done nothing to be born into wealth
    and someone from an under priviladged background has done nothing to be born to dissadvantage
    theirfore one does not deserve more chance in life than the other.
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    (Original post by megaman7)
    Of course private schooling (or any other form of "silver spoon" should be banned)
    It is unacceptable that some people are given the reasorces to do anything they want while others are not even given enough needed to get out of being trapped in dead end minimum wage jobs.

    as for all these absurd comments about pearents who have worked hard having a right to give their kids anything they want

    it is the kid who is the benficiary not the pearents
    the kid has not worked at all, it is the pearents who have worked
    the fact that one person has worked hard cannot be transfered to another
    theirfore the kid is NOT entitled to more opportunity than another person is given

    also if a person goes to private school he is NOT paying for it
    it is being paid for him so this voids all arguments about a person having a right to spend his money as he wants.
    if someone with rich pearents has a right to have his pearents pay for a better education then a person from a poor background has the right so have the taxpayer or a scholarship pay or a better education.

    he has done nothing to be born into wealth
    and someone from an under priviladged background has done nothing to be born to dissadvantage
    theirfore one does not deserve more chance in life than the other.
    people can spend their money how they want, if they want to put their children into a private school then its no one elses business, and all this crap about it not being their money? so should we not give to charity then? because they didnt earn it?

    i went to private school, and i am incredibly grateful that my parents paid for it, and if i have kids i am gonna make sure they get the best possible start in life.
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    (Original post by megaman7)
    Of course private schooling (or any other form of "silver spoon" should be banned)
    It is unacceptable that some people are given the reasorces to do anything they want while others are not even given enough needed to get out of being trapped in dead end minimum wage jobs.

    as for all these absurd comments about pearents who have worked hard having a right to give their kids anything they want

    it is the kid who is the benficiary not the pearents
    the kid has not worked at all, it is the pearents who have worked
    the fact that one person has worked hard cannot be transfered to another
    theirfore the kid is NOT entitled to more opportunity than another person is given

    also if a person goes to private school he is NOT paying for it
    it is being paid for him so this voids all arguments about a person having a right to spend his money as he wants.
    if someone with rich pearents has a right to have his pearents pay for a better education then a person from a poor background has the right so have the taxpayer or a scholarship pay or a better education.

    he has done nothing to be born into wealth
    and someone from an under priviladged background has done nothing to be born to dissadvantage
    theirfore one does not deserve more chance in life than the other.
    It's cute that you have an opinion on this, but what you think is irrelevant. We live in a free and democratic state where people can spend their money however they want. If you don't like that then you should join some fascist group to turn the UK into the Soviet Union where people have no say in how to spend their money or live their lives.
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    (Original post by Redkicker)
    It's cute that you have an opinion on this, but what you think is irrelevant. We live in a free and democratic state where people can spend their money however they want. If you don't like that then you should join some fascist group to turn the UK into the Soviet Union where people have no say in how to spend their money or live their lives.
    If you going to come out with comments such as "its cute that you have an opinion" and "what you think isd irrelivant" then you may as well admit that you have no counter argument and that you are theirfore wrong.

    you whine on about how "people can spend their money howeve they want" which frankly is just childish, but what is worse is that i have already pointed out that it is not the money of the person benefiting from the privating schooling because the child himself if not paying for it it is someone else paying, yet you have conviniently ignored this because you have not got a counter argument.

    comming out with comments such as the ones i quoted and ignoring the facts which completely void your reasoning are strategises typically deployed by people who know that they have lost the arument.
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    Jealousy! Aha
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    I do not think private school should be banned. Equality, is important but I do not think it would be fair for the government to deem that children can only go to a state school. In a democratic society people are given freedom thought, and belief. If parents believe it is in their child's best interest to go to a private school, then they have the legal right to do so under the constitution. As well, you also have to remember people also have the freedom to spend their money however they would like
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    (Original post by Adman32)
    A friend of mine comes from a relatively wealthy family and went to the same school as me up to last year. In September he left and enrolled in a private school. But I, and most people I know, would never be able to afford this.

    I know many on this forum are indeed from private schools, so please try and be neutral.

    Perhaps I'm too far on the left, but in my opinion noone should better opportunities simply because of parental wealth. All people should be born equal, and should find success with hard work and ability, not money.
    What about the whole supple side of things. The free market.

    If people have the abilities to be a good educator and want to market that talent and skill (which they culminated through hard work), why should they be prevented from setting up private school to profit?
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    (Original post by Thirst)
    Just a quick point in response to the comment someone made abut privately educated kids being arrogant. Well you know what, it’s a shame state schools can’t also install a mild arrogance in their pupils. In a recent interview with one of the interviewers for Oxford, when asked what main quality they look for in students he basically said they look for students who don’t accept the status quo, they look for students who don’t agree with everything they have to say, they want pupils who argue back and believe that they are right and the interviewers are wrong – they want people who think for themselves!

    Going to a private school is not just about academia, it is about building someone up to be confident and willing to defend themselves, it is about etiquette, it is about learning how to socialise with the right people. It is about all-round character building, something the state system fails at miserably. Don’t bash arrogance; in the right quantities it will get you far!

    Much of the modern world owes itself to the British private school system.
    Confidence and arrogance are two different things entirely.

    It's completely down to the person, not what type of school they went too. I know private school students who are quiet, well reserved and won't speak out because they've been Molly coddled through education then when they get in the real world it's a shock to them. It works both ways.

    As for your last sentence, that's just laughable. There are many famous people out there from state schools.

    All this school talk is ridiculous. There are extremely bright children who have come from both private and state schools because it's down to the individual.
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    I see it this way, if private schools were banned: all their pupils will have to join comprehensive (except the one who will be home schooled) then, the standard of education decreases in comprehensive schools as less resources will have to be shared out between more people. I don't like the idea of private schools but it keeps a certain balance.
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    (Original post by Adman32)
    A friend of mine comes from a relatively wealthy family and went to the same school as me up to last year. In September he left and enrolled in a private school. But I, and most people I know, would never be able to afford this.

    I know many on this forum are indeed from private schools, so please try and be neutral.

    Perhaps I'm too far on the left, but in my opinion noone should better opportunities simply because of parental wealth. All people should be born equal, and should find success with hard work and ability, not money.
    Your parameter for success is hard work and ability.
    What about the people who do not put in hard work and ability? Are they to be left by the wayside?

    Talk about equality, when your parameter is just as unfair.

    If a parent wants to spend often ludicrous amounts on Private Education, let it be so. True talent flourishes regardless of surroundings.

    I am privately educated.
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    (Original post by Hailey_Lawson)
    I do not think private school should be banned. Equality, is important but I do not think it would be fair for the government to deem that children can only go to a state school. In a democratic society people are given freedom thought, and belief. If parents believe it is in their child's best interest to go to a private school, then they have the legal right to do so under the constitution. As well, you also have to remember people also have the freedom to spend their money however they would like
    Like another post has pointed out, Saying they shouldn't be banned because 'people should have the freedom to choose' is not a valid justification, its not just something people hide behind due to a lack of real reasons

    Every parents interest is (or at least should) be to get their children the best education possible. Most people would probably choose to send their children there if they could afford it.
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    (Original post by Acerbic)
    At the least private schools should not receive tax breaks in the form of having charity status. But a broader policy to reduce income inequality might be more effective. European countries tend to have far lower rates of private education, as well as lower income inequality. Just a suggestion. But it might be wise to treat private schools as a symptom of a larger problem, rather than the problem the problem itself.
    Agreed. If there wasn't such a huge divide between the richest and poorest in this country, we wouldn't even be having this argument. Something needs to be done about the fact that certain occupations earn ridiculous amounts more than others - if this didn't happen, then everyone would pay a fair tax and receive a good state education, and no one would want or need to pay for it privately.
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    (Original post by megaman7)
    Of course private schooling (or any other form of "silver spoon" should be banned)
    It is unacceptable that some people are given the reasorces to do anything they want while others are not even given enough needed to get out of being trapped in dead end minimum wage jobs.

    as for all these absurd comments about pearents who have worked hard having a right to give their kids anything they want

    it is the kid who is the benficiary not the pearents
    the kid has not worked at all, it is the pearents who have worked
    the fact that one person has worked hard cannot be transfered to another
    theirfore the kid is NOT entitled to more opportunity than another person is given

    also if a person goes to private school he is NOT paying for it
    it is being paid for him so this voids all arguments about a person having a right to spend his money as he wants.
    if someone with rich pearents has a right to have his pearents pay for a better education then a person from a poor background has the right so have the taxpayer or a scholarship pay or a better education.

    he has done nothing to be born into wealth
    and someone from an under priviladged background has done nothing to be born to dissadvantage
    theirfore one does not deserve more chance in life than the other.

    i guess thats the benefits system/state welfare system out the window then. of which state education is a branch...
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    (Original post by colin4president)
    i guess thats the benefits system/state welfare system out the window then. of which state education is a branch...
    please explain
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    (Original post by Hailey_Lawson)
    I do not think private school should be banned. Equality, is important but I do not think it would be fair for the government to deem that children can only go to a state school. In a democratic society people are given freedom thought, and belief. If parents believe it is in their child's best interest to go to a private school, then they have the legal right to do so under the constitution. As well, you also have to remember people also have the freedom to spend their money however they would like
    you ay that
    "In a democratic society people are given freedom thought, and belief"

    however private school is all about a person being given an advantage simply because his pearents are wealthy

    A person is given freedom of thought and belief for himself and himself only
    a person is not free to determine what happens to his children.

    a child is not the property of his pearents

    theirfore a child should not be given more than another person
    and a child does not deserve more than another person
    simply because he happened to have pearents who have more money than another person.
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    no, the parents have the money so they can choose were to send their kids, rich kids may get a better education than us common or garden people but thats a benefit of bein rich!
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    Pure jealousy. In a free market, the market provides that which is in demand. Due to the dismal standards of many state schools, people choose to send their children to private schools. Arguably this does give them an advantage, but it does NOT guarantee success (note- I was privately educated yet got poor grades due to lack of effort, however I can accept this as a failure of myself and not the system) and it is prefectly possible for people educated in the state sector to achieve. The reason state sector educated people often fail to achieve is because they come from bad backgrounds (solely the fault of the parent). It has more to do with the parents attitude to education and success than the financial status of said parent. The reason many privately educated people achieve is because their parents make the effort to support them and bring them up correctly. However in the end it is down to the child, and it is the effort and competency of the child that will ultimately decide their success regardless of whether they were privately or state educated.

    If you have a problem with this, then lobby the government to start making people take responsibility for themselves and to improve standards in all schools to the level that private education is no longer a choice between a better future for a child or not (Note- I may appear to be contradicting myself, but I stand by the fact that despite private education giving advantages, it is quite right for advantages to be available for those who can pay, and does not diminish the ability of others to be educated in state schools.)
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    A bad workmen blames his tools so no.

    I might also add that my dad, who is a life long Labour supporter, sent me to a private school because both him and my mum were sick and tired of having to get help for my learning and social difficulties through the public sector. I will admit private schools are not great for social mobility but the only way to solve that is to make the state schools better.
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    (Original post by Adman32)
    A friend of mine comes from a relatively wealthy family and went to the same school as me up to last year. In September he left and enrolled in a private school. But I, and most people I know, would never be able to afford this.

    I know many on this forum are indeed from private schools, so please try and be neutral.

    Perhaps I'm too far on the left, but in my opinion noone should better opportunities simply because of parental wealth. All people should be born equal, and should find success with hard work and ability, not money.
    Are u ****ed up. Ur mum probably ****ted in ur head and as a child she threw you up 3 times but was only able to catch twice. Never wondered why some parents are not wealthy because they were not willing to give 110% means they are lazy ass mother****ers. I ****ed ur mom by the way.
 
 
 
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