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    I'm confused most of the immigration to the UK is from eastern Europe meaning most are white, there is a greater restriction for people outside of the EU. So since most immigrants are not 'non white' you shouldn't have a problem.....
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    (Original post by canimakeit)
    I'm confused most of the immigration to the UK is from eastern Europe meaning most are white, there is a greater restriction for people outside of the EU. So since most immigrants are not 'non white' you shouldn't have a problem.....
    It is net immigration from outside the EU, so everytime a Brit throws the towel in and heads to Australia/New Zealand or Canada, the Somalian who replaces them isn't counted.
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    What happens if my shower breaks or I need a taxi? Cars don't drive themselves you know.
    Immigrants = doing the jobs the welfare frauds won't take.
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    (Original post by OdinsThunder)
    I don't have a problem with Slavs, ones who came here a few hundred years back or ones who have come here recently in sensible numbers of course.

    Hell, I don't even have a problem with very limited numbers of non-whites, what I do have a problem with, is mass immigration from the third world. We don't need you, it is you who needs us.
    Maybe you should have a look at the NHS and then tell me if you feel the same way. You clearly feel brown/black people are more animalistic and barbaric then whites but tell me who initiated the worst massacres and wars and invasions in human history? WW1, WW2, The Holocaust, the Great Terror, the Holodomor, the ruination of dozens of countries through colonisation...

    Worry not, it's a cycle. In ancient times the Chinese were the most powerful, it was then the Persians, the Greeks, the Romans, the Ummayad Calipate, the Mongols, the Ottomons, the Mughals, the British, the Americans and now the 21st and 22nd centuries will belong to the Chinese and the Indians. We'll see how your absurd racial theory about white superiority stands then.
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    (Original post by Inzamam99)
    We'll see how your absurd racial theory about white superiority stands then.
    Quite well when we are talking about creativity and ingenuity. There is no ancient cycle in that regard. Without us, there will only be stagnation and then a brutal descent back into the dark ages.

    Not that I care what happens, if we are not around anyway.
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    (Original post by Inzamam99)
    Maybe you should have a look at the NHS and then tell me if you feel the same way. You clearly feel brown/black people are more animalistic and barbaric then whites but tell me who initiated the worst massacres and wars and invasions in human history? WW1, WW2, The Holocaust, the Great Terror, the Holodomor, the ruination of dozens of countries through colonisation...

    Worry not, it's a cycle. In ancient times the Chinese were the most powerful, it was then the Persians, the Greeks, the Romans, the Ummayad Calipate, the Mongols, the Ottomons, the Mughals, the British, the Americans and now the 21st and 22nd centuries will belong to the Chinese and the Indians. We'll see how your absurd racial theory about white superiority stands then.

    Bullshiiet

    China = probably

    India is and will be an AIDS turdhole
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    (Original post by OdinsThunder)
    There are individual Anglo Saxons which have lived, who have contributed more to the world than every non-white combined who have ever existed in the present and the past.
    Who are those individuals then?
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    (Original post by Cesar Lecat)
    Who are those individuals then?
    Issac Newton, Paul Dirac and Charles Darwin come straight to mind for science.
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    It seems that - as per digitalspy standard, it seems - most of the posters in here are taking a depressingly simplistic view of the issue.

    Re: 'he's a capitalist, that requires the free movement of people!?' - you really couldn't get more simplistic, could you? He's not a devout free marketer, is he? The free Market philosophy that suggests labour should be free to move from place to place, so as to ensure competition and thus efficiency, doesn't also suggest having a totally socialised healthcare system, universally free education and government backed loans for university and a significant benefits system for those unemployed. Now, you can argue the various merits of those measures, but they are all installed on a national, not international, basis. And, as long as that's the case, you *have* to care about who is coming into - and leaving - the country, because the bill has to get paid somehow.

    That said, to the people calling them scroungers, that's also not true. Immigrants are less likely to take benefits and more likely to be employed than Brits. They are also more likely tl be married, by the way.

    Then there is the cultural issue, which is actually linked to jobs quite significantly. BECAUSE of the above statistic - that they are more likely tl have work - they offer problems in some sense. Between 1997 and 2007, the number of total jobs in the UK Rose by approx 2 million. The total number of immigrants rose by approx 2 million. This had the effect that, during a massive boom in our economy, there was an enormous section of people whom - without immigration - would be finding work but, as a direct result of immigration, now are not. I mean obviously it's not ONLY immigration. They did, after all, still have as much opportunity to get the job as the immigrants, but employers chose to go for someone else. Why employers are so reluctant to hire British people is another issue for another time, I suppose.

    But the reason it's linked here to the cultural issue is that the people who tend to espouse the wonderful cosmopolitan smorgasbord of culture afforded by a multi-cultural society (and I am one of them!) tend to be the people who like having the quirky Moroccan cafe down the road or the falafel stall in the Market - not those that used to run a Market stall but now can't afford the rent because everyone went to the falafel stand instead of his or hers. The people that tend to like this cultural impact of immigration probably aren't those losing their jobs to them (though obviously there are exceptions).

    It's not a simple issue, and anyone who takes too righteous a side - either side - is missing out on a lot of the complexities of the issue.
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    (Original post by OdinsThunder)
    Quite well when we are talking about creativity and ingenuity. There is no ancient cycle in that regard. Without us, there will only be stagnation and then a brutal descent back into the dark ages.

    Not that I care what happens, if we are not around anyway.
    Two words: Ancient China
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    the nhs would fall apart?
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    (Original post by Txi)
    Bullshiiet

    China = probably

    India is and will be an AIDS turdhole
    India is far behind China contrary to what people believe of them being in the same class. Regardless of this current statistics would have India as the world's third biggest economy around the mid-21st century and the second largest by the late 21st century.
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    I didnt think people were suggesting ALL immigrants be sent home, a lot of them do a lot of good for the country and do try to integrate. I think the problem is mass immigration, which has caused different cultures to cluster together, but if the immigration had been spread out over a period of time, immgrants would have had to intergrate more.

    What I should think should happen is:

    Slow to current rate of immgration down to more managable levels
    Deport all illegal immgrants, regardless of human rights. They came here illegally.
    Deport all extremists (e.g. Abu Hamza). Even Anjem Choudary, despite being born in this country, should either be deported to a country more in line with his views, or be jailed in complete isolation so he cant spread his hate.
    Make it harder for immgrants to claim benefits, use the nhs etc. for a certain time, i.e. 5 years.
    Leave the EU, though this will never happen
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    (Original post by Txi)
    Bullshiiet

    China = probably

    India is and will be an AIDS turdhole
    You're a complete and utter moron. You obviously know nothing about economics or the real development that is going on outside your pathetic little existance.

    So refrain from commenting on matters you have absolutely no knowledge on.

    Idiot.
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    (Original post by TheSownRose)
    :lolwut: Who makes friends with immigrants?
    The people that want a White genocide?
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    (Original post by mmmmmpie)
    I didnt think people were suggesting ALL immigrants be sent home, a lot of them do a lot of good for the country and do try to integrate. I think the problem is mass immigration, which has caused different cultures to cluster together, but if the immigration had been spread out over a period of time, immgrants would have had to intergrate more.

    What I should think should happen is:

    Slow to current rate of immgration down to more managable levels
    Deport all illegal immgrants, regardless of human rights. They came here illegally.
    Deport all extremists (e.g. Abu Hamza). Even Anjem Choudary, despite being born in this country, should either be deported to a country more in line with his views, or be jailed in complete isolation so he cant spread his hate.
    Make it harder for immgrants to claim benefits, use the nhs etc. for a certain time, i.e. 5 years.
    Leave the EU, though this will never happen
    Whilst I agree with you, you can't deport a British national as first of all no other country would accept him and secondly, he may not have any other such nationality

    To jail him would be hypocritical, if you think about it as it would suppress freedom of speech etc... (I do agree with you however)
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    (Original post by Inzamam99)
    India is far behind China contrary to what people believe of them being in the same class. Regardless of this current statistics would have India as the world's third biggest economy around the mid-21st century and the second largest by the late 21st century.

    Rubbish.

    Real India GDP is negative.

    At real current rates India can't even beat Azerbaijan.

    As for the future, well you can just as well say that India might slip to # 34 economy and 234 if in capita terms.
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    Big straw man. No-one is advocating deportation apart from loons. Surely the only use of a hypothetical scenario is to help you evaluate what would happen - which you already realise, because you said "economic extermination of the UK the very next day".

    But what we do need is less immigration, and to get the unemployed doing the jobs immigrants are currently doing. Saying "British people don't want these jobs" is no reason to get more immigrants, but it is reason to get thousands of lazy ****s off their backsides and doing some work.

    I like work-permits, too. Everyone's a winner: UK gets taxes, workers when necessary, and avoids long-term costs; permit-holders get jobs while they are plentiful, and money to spend/take home.
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    (Original post by Make it so.)
    You're a complete and utter moron. You obviously know nothing about economics or the real development that is going on outside your pathetic little existance.

    So refrain from commenting on matters you have absolutely no knowledge on.

    Idiot.

    South Africa is reported to have the largest population living with the disease, at well over 5 million people infected, followed by Nigeria in 2nd place and India being the 3rd largest population of HIV infected with more than 2 million people reported.


    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_HIV/AIDS_adult_prevalence_rate#cite_ note-cia-0



    HAHAHAHA better buy a condom if I were you.
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    (Original post by Txi)
    Rubbish.

    Real India GDP is negative.

    At real current rates India can't even beat Azerbaijan.

    As for the future, well you can just as well say that India might slip to # 34 economy and 234 if in capita terms.
    Huh? Real growth rates, after adjusting for inflation, stand at around 8-9% atm. The vast majority of stats around show GDP adjusted for inflation.
 
 
 
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