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Reply 60
Original post by im1190
Yeah I think 'General Primary' is really good, as you can still teach Year 1, which often have continued provision from Early Years Foundation Stage, so you still experience some learning through play and all that stuff if you like that, but you are learning to teach a wider age range of pupils.

When you do university placements you will generally have at least one in each Key Stage, and when applying for your jobs experiencing both will only help you, and if you applied to teach Reception then you could talk about Year 1 experience and how it relates to Reception, so you would still have a good chance of working in Reception if you wanted.

You are aware that you should be qualified to teach them all after your university course? Just because you won't specialise/experience Early Years, just like Early Years don't specialise/experience KS2, doesn't mean you can't get a job in those year groups.

Personal statement wise, you don't have to specialise, could just say KS1 and KS2. Personally if you are applying for Early Years as well as general I would state them (as Year 3 is obviously fairly close to Year 2 and so more relevant than possible work experience in upper KS2 for Early Years, but both are very relevant for General. I say state the year groups, but its a matter of your choice :smile:
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thankyou for the advice :smile: yeah im defoo applying for general now and then one early years (at northumbria).

and no i wasnt really aware that i would be qualified to teach all years! so thanks for telling me this :biggrin:

and i think i will state them in my personal statement, just to make sure. so having experience in year 1, is still good for general? :tongue:

are you off to uni in september then? :smile:
Reply 61
Original post by im1190
You can, you are qualified, just you haven't specialised in it at uni, but when you have lots of years experience that doesn't matter as much :smile: For your first job it's unlikely you'll get it in a different age range to the one you studied for, as that is where your experience and current knowledge is. But a lot of teachers move within their school to year groups they feel most suited to. The teacher I shadow specialised in Early Years and now teaches Year 6! She wasn't taught how to teach KS2, but worked her way through them! You are qualified for all.


:s-smilie: I was told by one of the Uni's I went to for an interview, if you specialise in Early Years you can go on to teach across the whole primary age range, however if you don't look at EYFS in training you can't then go back and teach it i.e 5 - 11 :confused:
Reply 62
Original post by tabby_girl


thankyou for the advice :smile: yeah im defoo applying for general now and then one early years (at northumbria).

and no i wasnt really aware that i would be qualified to teach all years! so thanks for telling me this :biggrin:

and i think i will state them in my personal statement, just to make sure. so having experience in year 1, is still good for general? :tongue:

are you off to uni in september then? :smile:


Awh well done on deciding :biggrin: Make sure you get your application in nice and early too, both universities told us on interview they liked that about us early applicants/interviewees!

Yeah you technically are and many schools don't mind moving their teachers around the year groups to gain experience and such :smile:

Yes Year 1 is part of Key Stage 1, which is covered by both Early Years and General Primary. Year 3 is Key Stage 2, so only covered by General, but isn't far from Early Years so I would state them :smile:

Yep I'm off to Plymouth (if grades and things all go well!) to study Primary Education 5 - 11 with Humanities specialism! Let us know how it all goes! :smile:
Reply 63
Original post by Lazylisa
:s-smilie: I was told by one of the Uni's I went to for an interview, if you specialise in Early Years you can go on to teach across the whole primary age range, however if you don't look at EYFS in training you can't then go back and teach it i.e 5 - 11 :confused:


Not technically. Once you have Qualified Teacher Status (QTS) you are qualified to teach from 3 - 18! But obviously the course content differs and makes you more suitable for certain age groups. Many schools wouldn't employ someone with no EYFS experience for their nursery class, just as they wouldn't employ someone with no Key Stage 2 experience for their Year 6 class :smile:
Reply 64
Original post by im1190
Awh well done on deciding :biggrin: Make sure you get your application in nice and early too, both universities told us on interview they liked that about us early applicants/interviewees!

Yeah you technically are and many schools don't mind moving their teachers around the year groups to gain experience and such :smile:

Yes Year 1 is part of Key Stage 1, which is covered by both Early Years and General Primary. Year 3 is Key Stage 2, so only covered by General, but isn't far from Early Years so I would state them :smile:

Yep I'm off to Plymouth (if grades and things all go well!) to study Primary Education 5 - 11 with Humanities specialism! Let us know how it all goes! :smile:


thankyou for your help on deciding :smile: and oh i will! i'm planning on starting it over the summer, and hopefully sending it off near towards the end of september, start of october :tongue:

and oh great! well im sure you will get those grades :smile: and i will let you all know! if you guys will still come on here, you may be too busy at uni! :tongue:
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Reply 65
just wondering how everyone did in their AS's before they applied to uni? like what grades did you get? coz i had an awful geography exam yesterday and i think ive done really bad in it :frown: xxx
Original post by tabby_girl
just wondering how everyone did in their AS's before they applied to uni? like what grades did you get? coz i had an awful geography exam yesterday and i think ive done really bad in it :frown: xxx


Don't worry, I got BCCDD at AS :s-smilie: My predicted grades are ABCC. They look more at predicted grades to be honest. Also getting into university is only partly about academics, they look heavily at your personal statement and work experience/volunteering too. The grades to get into teaching are not too high anyway, my highest offer offer (my firm) is BCEE and my insurance is CCDE. So don't worry about grades too much, you can always resit next year anyway if you've done bad! :smile:

Good Luck! :smile: xxx
Reply 67
Original post by Hannah124
Don't worry, I got BCCDD at AS :s-smilie: My predicted grades are ABCC. They look more at predicted grades to be honest. Also getting into university is only partly about academics, they look heavily at your personal statement and work experience/volunteering too. The grades to get into teaching are not too high anyway, my highest offer offer (my firm) is BCEE and my insurance is CCDE. So don't worry about grades too much, you can always resit next year anyway if you've done bad! :smile:

Good Luck! :smile: xxx


thanks for the advice it has made me cheer up a little- im still worrying though :s-smilie:
if i do resit, on the ucas form do i put something likje "pending result" one of my friends said thats what happens?
and wow! how come you had 5 AS levles? i can hardely manage with 4 :tongue: xxxx
Original post by tabby_girl
thanks for the advice it has made me cheer up a little- im still worrying though :s-smilie:
if i do resit, on the ucas form do i put something likje "pending result" one of my friends said thats what happens?
and wow! how come you had 5 AS levles? i can hardely manage with 4 :tongue: xxxx


No problem :smile: And I didn't put result pending, you don't need to do it really and you're not supposed to for AS. I just listed my achieved AS grades (so in my case BCCDD) and then put my A2 grades as pending. Say if you got a C in geogrpahy for example, but you wanted to get a B then you're supposed to put C for AS geography and then ask your teacher to predict you a B on your reference.

We got told not be to put AS grades as pending if they have been achieved because it can look like you're hiding your grades and the universities won't like it! :confused:

And I do five because I chose 4 but my college makes us do General Studies :mad:! But I can't complain really because my universities count it towards my offer!

:smile: xxx
Reply 69
Original post by Hannah124
No problem :smile: And I didn't put result pending, you don't need to do it really and you're not supposed to for AS. I just listed my achieved AS grades (so in my case BCCDD) and then put my A2 grades as pending. Say if you got a C in geogrpahy for example, but you wanted to get a B then you're supposed to put C for AS geography and then ask your teacher to predict you a B on your reference.

We got told not be to put AS grades as pending if they have been achieved because it can look like you're hiding your grades and the universities won't like it! :confused:

And I do five because I chose 4 but my college makes us do General Studies :mad:! But I can't complain really because my universities count it towards my offer!

:smile: xxx


aw right :smile: im not taking geography to A2 level anyway im dropping it as soon as!! so i suppose i dont need to resit then if the uni's dont like that anyway? its just i thought a D would look bad thats all? :smile: and a pending result would be better somehow but i suppose the uni's will think im hiding something- which i suppose is what i would be doing! :redface:

and aww! we do general studies but we dont do it at AS we do it in 2nd year, so we have 4 AS levels then drop a subject then pick up general studies in the 2nd year :smile: xxx
Original post by tabby_girl

Original post by tabby_girl
just wondering how everyone did in their AS's before they applied to uni? like what grades did you get? coz i had an awful geography exam yesterday and i think ive done really bad in it :frown: xxx


I got an E in biology and was still accepted for a PGCE so I don't think it affects anything.
You'll be fine! Good luck with the rest of your exams :smile:
Reply 71
Original post by Stray_talk
I got an E in biology and was still accepted for a PGCE so I don't think it affects anything.
You'll be fine! Good luck with the rest of your exams :smile:


really? but it could be different coz you did a PGCE aw well i dont know :frown:
i really hope it doesnt affect my chances of getting into uni :frown: :s-smilie:
and thankyou :biggrin:
Original post by tabby_girl

Original post by tabby_girl
really? but it could be different coz you did a PGCE aw well i dont know :frown:
i really hope it doesnt affect my chances of getting into uni :frown: :s-smilie:
and thankyou :biggrin:


Yep! I think the things that count are how you did in the core subjects are GCSE and how well you do in your A Level subjects...AS are just a means to an end. At least, that's how I've seen it. I got into Uni first time around and then onto a PGCE course with an E in Biology. You'll definitely be ok, just trust!
Reply 73
Original post by Stray_talk
Yep! I think the things that count are how you did in the core subjects are GCSE and how well you do in your A Level subjects...AS are just a means to an end. At least, that's how I've seen it. I got into Uni first time around and then onto a PGCE course with an E in Biology. You'll definitely be ok, just trust!


thankyou! i know i probs will be ok, its just i know how competitive the course is and i really want a place :frown: ive just got to think positive i suppose!! :smile:
Reply 74
I recently got a place for PGCE at IoE.

The marks are not everything, these intitutions look for a person who has the potential to become a good teacher.
If you are really passionate about it and want it they should give you a chance. :smile:

You can turn all your disadvantages into positives, for example, if you struggle with some particular area/ subject say that you would love to study it more/learn how to overcome it during the degree so you can understand the learning processes and be able to help children in learning it, etc.

They don't expect you to be perfect! Reflection on your weak and strong points illustrates your analitycal skills and potential to correct mistakes.. so go for it!

Good luck! (and yes, do think positive!)
Reply 75
Original post by BeatriceF
I recently got a place for PGCE at IoE.

The marks are not everything, these intitutions look for a person who has the potential to become a good teacher.
If you are really passionate about it and want it they should give you a chance. :smile:

You can turn all your disadvantages into positives, for example, if you struggle with some particular area/ subject say that you would love to study it more/learn how to overcome it during the degree so you can understand the learning processes and be able to help children in learning it, etc.

They don't expect you to be perfect! Reflection on your weak and strong points illustrates your analitycal skills and potential to correct mistakes.. so go for it!

Good luck! (and yes, do think positive!)


aw thanks for that advice!! so you mean when i'm talking about how my subjects reflect primary education in my personal statement would i turn the fact that i got say a D in geography into a positive by saying "im passinote about the subject and are looking forward to enchance my knolledge of it in the course?" or something along those lines? :s-smilie: is that what you mean?

and i know they dont want us to be perfect its just i really want to get a place :frown:

thanks again and im trying to think positive!! :smile:
Original post by tabby_girl

Original post by tabby_girl
aw thanks for that advice!! so you mean when i'm talking about how my subjects reflect primary education in my personal statement would i turn the fact that i got say a D in geography into a positive by saying "im passinote about the subject and are looking forward to enchance my knolledge of it in the course?" or something along those lines? :s-smilie: is that what you mean?

and i know they dont want us to be perfect its just i really want to get a place :frown:

thanks again and im trying to think positive!! :smile:


Perhaps more along the lines that whilst your mark might not be the best in the exam that doesn't mean you don't find the subject interesting/engaging and that you're not passionate about it. Talk about how it's not all about exams and how people learn in different ways. They'll be children who are the same, like subjects but don't do well in exams so you'll be able to empathise with them. Point is you've still done the subject and Geography isn't the be all and end all of Primary school life. Just because you didn't do fantastically doesn't mean the knowledge isn't there.

I think you're worrying far too much! :smile:
Reply 77
Original post by Stray_talk
Perhaps more along the lines that whilst your mark might not be the best in the exam that doesn't mean you don't find the subject interesting/engaging and that you're not passionate about it. Talk about how it's not all about exams and how people learn in different ways. They'll be children who are the same, like subjects but don't do well in exams so you'll be able to empathise with them. Point is you've still done the subject and Geography isn't the be all and end all of Primary school life. Just because you didn't do fantastically doesn't mean the knowledge isn't there.

I think you're worrying far too much! :smile:


thanks for that!! wow! would i really be able to write that in my ps?
and i know i probably am, i cant help it :frown: this is all ive ever wanted to do in my life!!! im even losing sleep over it!! im sooo silly :s-smilie:
Original post by tabby_girl

Original post by tabby_girl
thanks for that!! wow! would i really be able to write that in my ps?
and i know i probably am, i cant help it :frown: this is all ive ever wanted to do in my life!!! im even losing sleep over it!! im sooo silly :s-smilie:


Failing that, just concentrate on the subjects you did well if and if they ask you about the AS Levels, you can always refer back to the above.
You'll be just dandy :hugs:
Reply 79
Original post by Stray_talk
Failing that, just concentrate on the subjects you did well if and if they ask you about the AS Levels, you can always refer back to the above.
You'll be just dandy :hugs:


thankyou so very much :smile:
do you think if i was to get a bad grade D/E would it be worthwhile me resitting it, and then putting "result pending" rather then my D/E?
thanks again and i hope im ok! :biggrin:

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