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New York Bar
What are the academic requirements to take the New York State Bar Exams?
Do you need a J.D. from a US uni?
Any input on any aspect of the New York Bar Exams appreciated.
Thanks.
Do you need a J.D. from a US uni?
Any input on any aspect of the New York Bar Exams appreciated.
Thanks.
From what I have heard a law degree from Oxbridge and the "London Three" (UCL, KCL LSE) would satisfy the academic requirements of the New York Bar Exam. It is also worth noting that UCL, KCL and LSE offer a double degree program(LLB/JD in 4 years) with Columbia Law School. Alternatively, you can take a LLM at a US uni after your UK LLB and this would satisfy the academic requirements as well.
bryan
From what I have heard a law degree from Oxbridge and the "London Three" (UCL, KCL LSE) would satisfy the academic requirements of the New York Bar Exam. It is also worth noting that UCL, KCL and LSE offer a double degree program(LLB/JD in 4 years) with Columbia Law School. Alternatively, you can take a LLM at a US uni after your UK LLB and this would satisfy the academic requirements as well.
That's basically it.
Bit of a deviation, but Im doing LLB then LPC and got a training contract, and would ultimately like to live and work in Australia - Iv done some research on this, but my boyfriend would like to live in America - does anyone know what the requirements are for the US, (New York in particular if that makes any difference) and if its particularly difficult for UK lawyers?? 
ellewoods
Bit of a deviation, but Im doing LLB then LPC and got a training contract, and would ultimately like to live and work in Australia - Iv done some research on this, but my boyfriend would like to live in America - does anyone know what the requirements are for the US, (New York in particular if that makes any difference) and if its particularly difficult for UK lawyers??
Go to a US firm and transfer over after qualification. Shouldn't be too difficult if he wants to do corporate, capital markets etc.
You might also find this link useful (from the American Bar Association- requirements for all American state bar exams):
http://www.abanet.org/legaled/publications/compguide2005/chart10.pdf
http://www.abanet.org/legaled/publications/compguide2005/chart10.pdf
There seems to be a bit of confusion here; I will re-post one of my previous posts which may be of use, all 3 year non distance learning English Common Law degrees may render you eligible to sit the New York Bar. The comments regarding Cambridge, Oxford and U of L are incorrect- the only difference is that applicants with degrees from these institutions are treated differently in the evaluation of credentials process:
With a 3 year (non distance Learning) English common law degree, you will be eligible to take certain bar exams upon evaluation of your academic credentials, the New york Bar exam is one of the most common for English law graduates to take as the evaluation process is simpler and law degrees from many institutions including Cambridge, Oxford and London (Not external UofL, though) are automatically accepted. There is no need to take a JD to qualify as an attorney as an English law degree will suffice for many states; however you are likely to be less employable than your JD collegues, if you intended to practice in the US it is probably worth taking a US LLM (preferably from a good school) or a shortened 2 year JD (where you are given advanced standing due to your english law degree), either of which will increase the number of states you are eligible to sit the exam for. Qualification previously in England may also make you more atttractive to a global law firm in the US and will also mean you are approaching the age of a US law graduate- rather than being 3/4 years younger. It is possible to take new York bar review courses in England, either at Holborn College (London), or with CLT, home study courses are also available from US providers. The NY bar exam itself (unfortunately unlike the English QLTT- which may be examined in many global locations) is not yet available outside of NY. It is however possible to take a US LLM (from an ABA school) in London- see the University of Notre Dame's programme, which has reduced fees for EU students.
With a 3 year (non distance Learning) English common law degree, you will be eligible to take certain bar exams upon evaluation of your academic credentials, the New york Bar exam is one of the most common for English law graduates to take as the evaluation process is simpler and law degrees from many institutions including Cambridge, Oxford and London (Not external UofL, though) are automatically accepted. There is no need to take a JD to qualify as an attorney as an English law degree will suffice for many states; however you are likely to be less employable than your JD collegues, if you intended to practice in the US it is probably worth taking a US LLM (preferably from a good school) or a shortened 2 year JD (where you are given advanced standing due to your english law degree), either of which will increase the number of states you are eligible to sit the exam for. Qualification previously in England may also make you more atttractive to a global law firm in the US and will also mean you are approaching the age of a US law graduate- rather than being 3/4 years younger. It is possible to take new York bar review courses in England, either at Holborn College (London), or with CLT, home study courses are also available from US providers. The NY bar exam itself (unfortunately unlike the English QLTT- which may be examined in many global locations) is not yet available outside of NY. It is however possible to take a US LLM (from an ABA school) in London- see the University of Notre Dame's programme, which has reduced fees for EU students.
This is a bit off the topic, but I've heard that US law firms aren't as generous with paid holidays and taking general days off as UK law firms, is this true?
Sarah_Kiya
This is a bit off the topic, but I've heard that US law firms aren't as generous with paid holidays and taking general days off as UK law firms, is this true?
I think this depends. I get 25 paid vacation days at my US firm (in London) but it is more common for those working in the US to get about 1/2 that amount.
Captain Chaos
Ok, so what are the requirements for the California Bar? As I understand it they are far stricter than NY when it comes to foreign legal education.
The reverse AFAIK. You can do that with the CPE.
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anabelle
On a related topic, does anyone know if I can take the LSAT in London or the UK?
Yes.
Not a Lawyer
Since London and Oxbridge aren't the only places in the UK that offer three year legal degrees, you can safely dismiss that belief as crap spread by people who want to make being eligible for the NY Bar seem more impressive than it actually is.
I am not one of those trying to 'make it seem more impressive than it actually is'.
You are absolutely correct.
But I was told by the Harvard Law School career services here that the English LLB from those five universities (Oxbridge, UCL, LSE, KCL) are very easily approved by the New York State Board of Law Examiners. Before any foreign student sits for the New York Bar exam, his foreign law credentials must be evaluated / approved. The LLB from those five universities are automatically approved. Law degrees from anywhere else take much longer time and scrutiny (i.e. they might write back and ask for more details, ask for your classroom contact hours, ask for a letter from your uni to confirm this and that, etc.).
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