The licence fee and the BBC

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(Original post by fishpaste)
Are they? Big Brother - European. Changing Rooms - British. The office - British. These are usually cited as the most successful shows in the world. The only top notch show the US lays claims to is Friends. Everybody knows what a generic template for crap friends is, and this is the downfall of american broadcasting.
How about The Simpsons or South Park, perhaps the X-Files or ER aswell?
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Are they? Big Brother - European. Changing Rooms - British. The office - British. These are usually cited as the most successful shows in the world. The only top notch show the US lays claims to is Friends. Everybody knows what a generic template for crap friends is, and this is the downfall of american broadcasting.
There are some good american shows - eg 24 and Band of Brothers, but there are more equally good british shows.

You've got to remember, any American shows shown in Britain have previously been successful in america, and so we only see the cream of the crop, because bad shows would have been unpopular in America and so would not be exported.
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Agreed, she does like it but she aint and never has been part of the game. For that reason she shouldnt present it.

The camera angles are pitifal. Skys coverage of Superleague is light years apart from BBC's atempt in the Challenge cup. Its dreadful.
The BBC head of sport tonight announced in an interview on Radio Mersey that he was planning "major changes" in the way that the BBC presented Rugby League. He said that there would be an announcement some time soon but did not elaborate on his points.
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(Original post by Mark_KK)
How about The Simpsons or South Park, perhaps the X-Files or ER aswell?
These don't quite make it to those big name shows though. I can see they have created alot of popular viewing. But I still maintain that for every Simpsons, there's a 1000 "The PJs" and for every X Files, there's a million Montel Williams.
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You contradict yourself with style.
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The BBC head of sport tonight announced in an interview on Radio Mersey that he was planning "major changes" in the way that the BBC presented Rugby League. He said that there would be an announcement some time soon but did not elaborate on his points.
Only about 6 years to late....

I bet they copy off sky. Typical.

I'm intrigued to what they will do...
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(Original post by Joey_Johns)
WTF? And changing rooms is quality entertainment? Lol
Changing rooms / changing rooms spin off = change the channel!
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You may not like it, I hate it, but it's one of the most popular shows in the world. Was considered to be one of the most successful shows ever.
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Changing rooms / changing rooms spin off = change the channel!
Thats why they are ''innovative''.
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That highlights a good example. The BBC invent some quality programming like changing rooms, and the competitive sky channels make a million spin offs, all **** poor.
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That highlights a good example. The BBC invent some quality programming like changing rooms, and the competitive sky channels make a million spin offs, all **** poor.
Er, the only spin offs I've seen have been produced by the BBC. They are repeated many times on the BBC's many crap digital channels like ''Uk Style''.
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That highlights a good example. The BBC invent some quality programming like changing rooms, and the competitive sky channels make a million spin offs, all **** poor.
Quality is not the right word.

Addictive to girls maybe, not to boys though.
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(Original post by Mark_KK)
I propose that the licence fee be scrapped or dramatically reduced for the following reasons:

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It is archaic, when it was introduced the BBC was the only broadcaster and thus anyone who was watching T.V. had to be watching the BBC.

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Now we have hundreds of possible channels to watch offered by many different providers, many people dont watch the BBC at all and thus are paying for something that they do not require.

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In light of the above many people would be happy to adjust their sets so they could not recieve the BBC if it were legal / possible.

4.
There is institutional bias in the BBC, look at some of the recent political scandal, also look at the way some communities or sections of society are either belittled or totally ignored, one example of this is their shoody treatment of the working class backgrounds from various parts of Yorkshire and Lancashire.

5.
The BBC is not accountable to anyone thus most of the time can do what it wants with no or little conseuqnce.

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The amount of money spent on various programmes is disproportionate to the amount of people watching / listening to them. Many of the digital channels have been a complete waste of time and in one programme that revolved around competitors playing video games through their tv remote it would have been cheaper to send each viewer their own console. They also seem to spend most money per viewer on the Six Nations Rugby Union where they payed something like £86 million for the tv rights - totally stupid if you ask me and not in the interests of the licence fee payer.

Anyone else think of any good reasons that this needs restructuring?
Who would pay for the BBC then?
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Who would pay for the BBC then?
Not me.
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Not me.
If the fee went, how would it be paid for?
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Er, the only spin offs I've seen have been produced by the BBC. They are repeated many times on the BBC's many crap digital channels like ''Uk Style''.
No, it was repeated by every major television broadcaster in every country in the world. Alot like big brother.
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Quality is not the right word.

Addictive to girls maybe, not to boys though.
Ah yes, so sorry, I forgot that quality meant "in the taste of Joey_Johns" now.
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Er, the only spin offs I've seen have been produced by the BBC. They are repeated many times on the BBC's many crap digital channels like ''Uk Style''.
UK Style isnt the BBC's channel.

Amazingly, all the channels with "BBC" in the name are theirs, eg "BBC 3", "BBC News 24" etc
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If the fee went, how would it be paid for?
I'd rather it was just scrapped. Problem solved. Its shithouse.

All the quality programming can move to other channels. The rest like the news can be totally scrapped, there are enough FREE news channels already.
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I'd rather it was just scrapped. Problem solved. Its shithouse.

All the quality programming can move to other channels. The rest like the news can be totally scrapped, there are enough FREE news channels already.
What do you want to be scrapped?

What channels can programmes move to?

There are no free news channels.
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