Msci is NOT a masters degree? why didnt i know this?

I believe it's a cheap way to get onto a phd? You do your MSci then move straight onto a phd thereby skipping the step of getting a masters.

Reply 2

angrydanmarin

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Cos the chemistry masters is called MChem? I think its the same for all subjects. If it's Mart or Msci then it's still just a bachelors. But if its MPhil (for philosophy) or MEng (for engineering), then its a masters.

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Reply 3

michael clayton

It is an undergraduate masters degree so it won't be as regarded as a postgrad qualification- no advantage imo, just go straight for an MSc.

Reply 4

kerily

Can't you sometimes go MSci -> PhD, instead of the usual BSc -> MSc -> PhD route, thus saving a year of paying higher fees?

Reply 5

OP

Original post by kbountra

It is an undergraduate masters degree so it won't be as regarded as a postgrad qualification- no advantage imo, just go straight for an MSc.

surely if there was NO advantage then noone would do an msci? :confused:

Reply 6

OP

Original post by kerily

Can't you sometimes go MSci -> PhD, instead of the usual BSc -> MSc -> PhD route, thus saving a year of paying higher fees?

but it would take the same amount of time? and i wouldnt pay fees anyway?
i know some masters are covered by saas , but idk if chemistry is right enough...

i shall look into it :smile:

Reply 7

Ewan

Original post by LouisVuitton43

surely if there was NO advantage then noone would do an msci? :confused:

Stay in education longer? :colondollar:

Honestly that's why most of the people on my course are sticking with the MSci.

Reply 8

Lyndon1504

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You've got me scared now,, I'm doing a 4 year MPhys instead of a 3 year BSci, will my MPhys be a masters degree?!

Reply 9

Manitude

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Surely you can do an MChem? If what I've read is correct then the course I'm doing (MPhys) is roughly equivalent to MSc rather than MSci. I assume the same applies to MChem.

Reply 10

EierVonSatan

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MSci = Master in Science
MSc = Master of Science

It is a masters degree, just an undergraduate one and it's a very common way for people to get onto PhDs.

Reply 11

kerily

Original post by LouisVuitton43

but it would take the same amount of time? and i wouldnt pay fees anyway?
i know some masters are covered by saas , but idk if chemistry is right enough...

i shall look into it :smile:

Oh, you're Scottish :colondollar:

I'm not. So my plan was that if I wanted to do a PhD (can't know if I do before even starting my degree) I could do an MSci in 4 years at the £3.5k rate, and then go onto a PhD, as opposed to doing a BSc for 3 years at the £3.5k rate, then an MSc for a year at the ~£10k rate, then going on to a PhD. If it worked out that way, it'd save me a lot of money :smile:

Does anyone know if this would work, or if I'm hopelessly deluded?

Reply 12

OP

Original post by kerily

Oh, you're Scottish :colondollar:

I'm not. So my plan was that if I wanted to do a PhD (can't know if I do before even starting my degree) I could do an MSci in 4 years at the £3.5k rate, and then go onto a PhD, as opposed to doing a BSc for 3 years at the £3.5k rate, then an MSc for a year at the ~£10k rate, then going on to a PhD. If it worked out that way, it'd save me a lot of money :smile:

Does anyone know if this would work, or if I'm hopelessly deluded?

Woow. thats a big difference... :o:

Reply 13

michael clayton

Original post by LouisVuitton43

surely if there was NO advantage then noone would do an msci? :confused:

I will rephrase- no 'real' advantage other than extra lab experience. A postgrad masters is in a specific subject area where you would be given targeted expertise....perfect for progression onto a PhD

Reply 14

OP

Original post by Manitude

Surely you can do an MChem? If what I've read is correct then the course I'm doing (MPhys) is roughly equivalent to MSc rather than MSci. I assume the same applies to MChem.

i dont think so... there wasnt a choice on ucas anyway :tongue:

ill look into it when im older i suppose. im only first year the now and i have a lot to pass before im considered for the Msci anyway :tongue:

Reply 15

Mad Vlad

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Original post by angrydanmarin

Cos the chemistry masters is called MChem? I think its the same for all subjects. If it's Mart or Msci then it's still just a bachelors. But if its MPhil (for philosophy) or MEng (for english), then its a masters.

Pretty sure it's Engineering... :erm:

Reply 16

kerily

Original post by LouisVuitton43

Woow. thats a big difference... :o:

I keep trying to encourage my parents to move to Scotland or Wales, so that my little sister (who's 11) won't have to pay uni fees at £9k :awesome:

I'm hoping that my plan will work; if not, I'll look into doing a postgraduate masters abroad instead, where they often have lower or non-existent tuition fees.

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OP