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    (Original post by vierstein)
    except he didn't say that but "I'll give 0 rep to anyone voting for BNP", a little different, and more obvious that it was a joke.
    Looks like it has been changed to me.

    I responded to concerns addressed regarding this by other members, and acted in the most decent way. One vote is a very small price to pay for what has been an overall shamefully dishonest election campaign on their behalf, it is like the Watergate of TSR.

    If you're not happy with the one vote being removed, then I suggest you call a vote of no confidence because the vote will not be counted as long as i'm speaker.

    As I have already said, there was significant pressure on me to ban the BNP earlier in the election, and I was reluctant to do so. If you think what i've done is bias then youre on another planet.
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    (Original post by tis_me_lord)
    Real life and TSR are not comparable.

    The leader of the lib dems could be a heroin addict and still be our TSR leader, but not in real life.

    It makes far more sense to give tem 1 or 2 seats and let them find a new leader 'cos there are enough legitimate and honest members to have some seats!
    Name them. I doubt there's a single BNP member in this forum who wasn't banned at least once.
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    so going "i'll give 0 rep to anyone that votes BNP" is some sort of great bribery ring.

    lol some people here are farcical.

    oh noooo the evil BNP got 16 votes...TEH SKY IS FALLING!!!1 more worrying is how so many people were so ill advised as to vote liberal. thats truly disgusting
    The previous bribery was not connected with the BNP (as far as anyone knows).

    And personally, on here I have not taken an anti BNP stance on here, just an anti-bribery stance.

    If I was so against the BNP I would not have suggested the allocation of seats as seen in proposal 1 in the voting thread as that gives the BNP 8% of the seats where as the other two proposals give then 6% and 6.17% respectively.

    I could so easily have suggested something to give them a lower number of votes (and to be even fairer, I even pointed out to one BNP member that a proposal 1 gave them a higher % of seats than the other two to correct their flawed conclusion that the option which gave them the more seats in real numbers was the best option for them).
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    (Original post by technik)
    so going "i'll give 0 rep to anyone that votes BNP" is some sort of great bribery ring.

    lol some people here are farcical.

    oh noooo the evil BNP got 16 votes...TEH SKY IS FALLING!!!1 more worrying is how so many people were so ill advised as to vote liberal. thats truly disgusting
    Excuse me, but I am respecting the far right by arguing for what's fair, despite hating their policies. Can't you show a little respect for the fact that some of us just have different opinions to you?

    It's a student forum, what do you expect to be the case? 20% are lib dem in real life, is that disguisting? Anyone has the right to vote for whoever they want.

    (Original post by Bismarck)
    Name them. I doubt there's a single BNP member in this forum who wasn't banned at least once.
    Well I can't name BNP members off the top of my head... but in D&D there often seem to be plenty around...
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    Looks like it has been changed to me.
    oh, it's been changed? my mistake, that's disgusting lying and cheating on the part on the BNP, count another vote for having the BNP banned entirely from me please.

    And sebbie, that link to the stormfront forum only shows how racist and prejudiced the BNP are, they were probably banned for reasons related to that, racism or other discrimination isn't and shouldn't be tolerated.
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    (Original post by vierstein)
    I'd like to say though, that the only two active BNP members in this thread have joined very recently, less than a couple of days ago, and I am relieved that one of them at least has been banned.
    I myself have been a member slightly longer than them, and have not reached the required number of posts, and have refrained from spamming to achieve that number so i could vote.
    I see little legitimacy in the BNP party and would like an electoral fraud commission to investigate the party (and any other party which is accused of fraud).

    Congratulations to the Lib Dems and Carl.
    And thanks everybody who voted Green.
    Cheers
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    (Original post by tis_me_lord)
    Well I can't name BNP members off the top of my head... but in D&D there often seem to be plenty around...
    As i've said, each BNP member on here claims around 10 accounts.
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    (Original post by Beekeeper)
    As i've said, each BNP member on here claims around 10 accounts.
    There's 1.6 BNP members? :confused:
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    (Original post by tis_me_lord)
    There's 1.6 BNP members? :confused:
    keyword "around", and not all the accounts were used to vote, and other votes from duplicated accounts were removed.
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    (Original post by vierstein)
    keyword "around", and not all the accounts were used to vote, and other votes from duplicated accounts were removed.
    So duplicated accounts have been removed already? :confused:
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    (Original post by tis_me_lord)
    There's 1.6 BNP members? :confused:
    Votes made from duplicate accounts were removed earlier in the election.
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    (Original post by Beekeeper)
    Votes made from duplicate accounts were removed earlier in the election.
    So you can find it out and take them away... why is this not being done now then?
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    (Original post by tis_me_lord)
    So you can find it out and take them away... why is this not being done now then?
    Votes made from duplicate accounts have been removed.

    I can't see your problem, it just looks like youre trying to cause trouble to me.

    I could start a poll now asking whether people would like the BNP to be banned or not, and I can guarantee you the majority would vote to give them the boot. My intervention has been minimal to say the least.

    I am not prepared to discuss the electoral miscnduct of certain members any further, i've justified my decision and only a very small minority seem to have a problem.
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    Votes made from duplicate accounts have been removed.

    I can't see your problem, it just looks like youre trying to cause trouble to me.

    I could start a poll now asking whether people would like the BNP to be banned or not, and I can guarantee you the majority would vote to give them the boot. My intervention has been minimal to say the least.

    I am not prepared to discuss the electoral miscnduct of certain members any further, i've justified my decision and only a very small minority seem to have a problem.
    So the 16 is without duplicate accounts?

    I'm not having a massive go at you, I'm just trying to do what's fair.

    Also, in real life a majority would have parties banned who aren't their own, doesn't mean it's right to do so...
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    (Original post by tis_me_lord)
    Well I can't name BNP members off the top of my head... but in D&D there often seem to be plenty around...
    And they all get banned...often.
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    The BNP has 36 members, those of those who would have been eligable to vote are:

    andyukguy
    aristogeiton
    batazer
    blackadder
    cosmik debris
    damnbuster
    gaskell
    GIBB
    jjuk
    mallethead
    mangomaz
    pinkfloyd
    steezy20

    so thats 13...so theoretically it is possible...

    but, considering 6 have been banned from voting because of electoral fraud, that actually makes 7, so I doubt that 9 people who are non-party members voted.
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    (Original post by tis_me_lord)
    Excuse me, but I am respecting the far right by arguing for what's fair, despite hating their policies. Can't you show a little respect for the fact that some of us just have different opinions to you?

    It's a student forum, what do you expect to be the case? 20% are lib dem in real life, is that disguisting? Anyone has the right to vote for whoever they want.
    meh i dont care...i voted tory.

    and yes...20% in real life is about 20% too much

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    (Original post by Beekeeper)
    Votes made from duplicate accounts have been removed.

    I can't see your problem, it just looks like youre trying to cause trouble to me.

    I could start a poll now asking whether people would like the BNP to be banned or not, and I can guarantee you the majority would vote to give them the boot. My intervention has been minimal to say the least.

    I am not prepared to discuss the electoral miscnduct of certain members any further, i've justified my decision and only a very small minority seem to have a problem.
    i hope no non-uk citizens were allowed to vote...that would be shocking laxity and fraud...
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