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So my boyfriend paid £35 for a 2 week ad of his car on Autotrader. It ends in a couple of days and all he has had is people emailing him trying to scam him. Here is a couple of the emails for example:

''Is your listed car still available for sale .if yes get back to me soonest and i will be happy to know the condition of the car ..thanks..''

''Hi,
I will only be making payment via paypal safest online payment (pls visit www.paypal.com) as have been burnt many times via online Bank transfer/payment and for the convenience of both parties i have organized with someone to come pick it up as soon as we're through with payment.I want you to know that i would have come with cash in hand myself and do the necessary things before concluding on payment but i'm not in the country right now due to my work commitments,we will complete the deal only using an authorized PayPal coz I already prearranged the whole process with them, using their escrow Safe Pay Program for merchandise .I think this is more than fair for both of us.The payment will be handled by PayPal Escrow.if you do not have a paypal account before you can get your email register with them at there site www.paypal.com and get back to me with your PayPal email address or PayPal ID so that i can proceed with the payment immediately.

Lastly, i will offer you £5000 and that i want you to know that i will be responsible for the PayPal transfer charge as well .Kindly get back to me with your PayPal email address so that i can proceed with the payment as soon as possible..
Best Regard.'' Other people with the same guy scamming them: http://antifraudintl.org/showthread.php?t=36634 http://www.pistonheads.com/gassing/t...415.48722&nmt=

He has also had several harrassment calls from CarData UK which I googled and found out to be a scam. http://www.usedcarmart.co.uk/forum/t...-be-aware.html

Has anyone else had such a useless experience?
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I don't think there is much Autortrader can do about stopping these people, as all theses scammers do is look for adverts just like any genuine buyer. But as long as people keep falling for it they will keep doing it, which is a shame because like you say it's really annoying when you are trying to sell a car. I don't use Autotrader as I find it's full of traders. May I suggest Adtrader, Gumtree or eBay, they are all better IMO.
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(Original post by Elwyn)
I don't think there is much Autortrader can do about stopping these people, as all theses scammers do is look for adverts just like any genuine buyer. But as long as people keep falling for it they will keep doing it, which is a shame because like you say it's really annoying when you are trying to sell a car. I don't use Autotrader as I find it's full of traders. May I suggest Adtrader, Gumtree or eBay, they are all better IMO.
I agree, this seems to be the case. Auto trader isnt that bad, your boyfriend has just had a bad experience on this occasion.
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'Is your listed car still available for sale .if yes get back to me soonest and i will be happy to know the condition of the car ..thanks..''
What's scammy about this one?
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What's scammy about this one?
It isn't written in proper english.. the text was in grey instead of black, there were no hello's or thankyou's...
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Maybe, just MAYBE people don't want to buy his car? Advertising is a weak force. What car is he selling?
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Maybe, just MAYBE people don't want to buy his car? Advertising is a weak force. What car is he selling?
Yes I realise people may not want to buy his car but I'm not complaining about that. I am complaining about the amount of spammers and fraud he has received through the website.
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Yes I realise people may not want to buy his car but I'm not complaining about that. I am complaining about the amount of spammers and fraud he has received through the website.
It's no better or worse than anything else for that. Ebay, gumtree, local newspaper, pistonheads, they all fall foul of scammers. there's no way to stop it centrally.
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It's no better or worse than anything else for that. Ebay, gumtree, local newspaper, pistonheads, they all fall foul of scammers. there's no way to stop it centrally.
Yes but websites like gumtree and eBay are free so I would expect and not complain about spam, whereas he's paying £35 for 2 weeks of advertisement to be inundated with spam and fraudsters and you don't expect that for £35.
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well you can choose to not have your email up, and also can choose to have a telesafe number also so people like these don't call...

personally I have normally had good luck with autotrader, but selling my current car has been a nightmare..hardly anyone calling for it
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It isn't written in proper english.. the text was in grey instead of black, there were no hello's or thankyou's...
I wouldnt say it was a scammer down to poor grammar?? :confused:
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What car is he selling? some cars attract a lot of scammers e.g. Audi TT's
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What car is he selling? some cars attract a lot of scammers e.g. Audi TT's
A 2006 Ford Focus..
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Yes but websites like gumtree and eBay are free so I would expect and not complain about spam, whereas he's paying £35 for 2 weeks of advertisement to be inundated with spam and fraudsters and you don't expect that for £35.
He's not paying it to not be spammed, he's paying it to gain a large reach to a specialised, receptive audience who are actively seeking the product. Ebay ain't free either. If you sell a car on there it'll cost you £40. Admittedly you pay a very small fee if you don't sell, but autotrader can't work like that. Besides, it's only £35. You can't expect that much for £35.
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It isn't written in proper english.. the text was in grey instead of black, there were no hello's or thankyou's...
Are you new to the internet?

Also sod emailing to get a sale. Better to stick to phone calls.
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The PayPal thing is a scam because they ask for your details and then send you an email saying you've received the funds when you actually haven't (The email is a fake email that looks like it's from paypal).

The 'person' arranged to pick it up can't take any blame either because they can plead ignorance and just say they were told to pick up a car and didn't realise it was to do with a scam etc..
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it is this type of messages that deterred my father from advertising his old toyota prius on such sites.
however, as soon as he advertised the car himself (i.e., for sale sign on car window) he got a sale after 1 day.
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Dont most people pay for a car in cash?
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First time trying to sell my car & I'm sickened by all these scammers - here are a couple of messages:

" Alright i want you to know that am so much interested in buying this car from you,the mileage,the car location .So i am ready to buy it now for my first born that just got married, i am Engineer Road Construction Building due to the nature of my work i traveled allot and also am not in the state presently. but am not in the state at the moment so i won't be able to come for the inspection .. I insisted on PayPal because i can pay from my pay-pal account, as i have my bank a/c attached to it, i will need you to give me your PayPal email address and the price so i can make the payments asap, i will not be able to come and look at it,i have a shipping company that will come for the pick up of the car and they will be responsible for signing of the paper and title I'll email my details to them, as soon as we have conclude.. And do not forget to remove the add okay,This is my number you can reach me at +447024037491

1,Your Pay-pal email account.
2,Your home address.
3,Last Asking Price.

Thanks"


and:

"Hi,
Thanks for the prompt response.. I am ready to buying it now as a for
birthday gift for brother in-law. I am at sea at the moment as I am a
marine engineer and due to the nature of my work, phone call making
and visiting of website are restricted but I just have to squeezed out
time to check this advert and send you an email regarding it. I really
want the car to be a surprise package for brother in-law so I wont let
him know anything about the car until it gets delivered to him, I am
sure he will be more than happy with the car. I insisted on PayPal as
my mode of payment because I don't have access to my bank account
online and also, I don't have internet banking, but I can pay from my
PayPal account. I have my bank account attached to my PayPal account,
so I will need you to give me your PayPal email address and your final
price so I can make the payments asap for the car and please if you
don't have a PayPal account yet, it is very easy to set up, go to
www.paypal.com and get it set up, after you have set it up I will only
need the e-mail address you use for the registration with PayPal so as
to put the money through. I have a pick up agent that will come and
pick the car up after I have made the payments for the car...

My Regards."


Best to give these guys a bit of exposure so if anyone else receives emails from people 'away at sea' they can google the message and see it's a fraud.

Interestingly, all 4 of the scam messages I've had are from gmail addresses, probably to make it look more serious.

I've only ever bought from eBay using Paypal but am told it's heavily weighted in favour of the buyer (probably a good thing in general), with a 7-day cooling-off period so ppl can withdraw their payment during that time.

Safe buying, safe selling guys!
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A 2006 Ford Focus..
There's the problem then.

There's so many focus' for sale it's a buyers market. Unless it's got silly low miles there is unlikely to be much interest.
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