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B361 - The British Military and Veterans Hospitals Bill (Second Reading), Rt. Hon. thunder_chunky

A bill for the creation and opening of a hospital with facilities for current and former members of the military. With our role in Afghanistan continuing, and with the constant possibility of our armed forces being commited to other regions of the world either to fight or to act as a peacekeeping force, there still exists the possibility of loss of life or serious injury.
We owe it to our troops to give them the care and attention they deserve.

BE IT ENACTED by The Queen's most Excellent Majesty, by and with the advice and consent of the Commons in this present Parliament assembled, in accordance with the provisions of the Parliament Acts 1911 and 1949, and by the authority of the same, as follows:-

1. Military hospitals must be opened to give exclusive care and treatment whether physical, mental, or otherwise to men and women who are currently and have formerly served in her majesty's armed forces.

(1) For the purposes of this Act- A separate wing will be built alongside a hospital for the purpose of combat veterans, past and present.

(2) The hospital will include an A&E, operating facilities and various other forms of medical care, as well as psychiatric, and groups for former servicemen and women who since leaving have become addicted, whether it be alcohol, drugs, or otherwise.

(3) The hospital will be situated with direct links to an airfield of sufficient capability to support planes used to return injured troops from combat zones.

(4) This military wing will be attached to the major hospital in Sellyoak

(5) A selection of special rehabilitation and health centres with the same purpose will also be set up around the country so there is a more local alternative to hand. These will be attached to or based near a selection of main millitary bases around the county. These will include Catterick Garrison, RAF Brize Norton, and Aldershot Garrison.

(6) If there is sufficient space and facilities avaliable, the wing will also be open to civillians if a situation arises where said assistance is needed

(7) This wing will also accomodate members of the emergency services who have been injured and require specialist treatment and rehabilitation.

2. Enforcement and Punishment

(1) This act includes current and former soldiers who have been served the British Armed Forces despite being from a foreign country not within the British Isles or the commonwealth, for example current and former members of the Ghurka Rifles.

(2) Where there is significant need, in which case existing hospitals are unable to cope, civilians may be treated in a fashion equal to that of military patients.

(3) A select commitee will be selected to discuss potential sites as soon as possible. It will consist of a mixture of millitary doctors and senior staff officers, and civilian planners sub-contracted by the government.

(4) A sum of £30 million shall been brought forward for this project for the first year to fund the building, supply, and recruitment for this wing for the first year although the sum may be reviewed depending on further possible funding needs.

(5) After the first year the annual sum for funding will be adjusted accordingly, this is a decision which will be made by the Health minister and senior members of the NHS.

Commencement, short title and extent.

(1) This Act may be cited as "The British Military and Veterans Hospitals Bill Act 2011"

(2) This Act shall come into force at the end of the period of two months beginning with the day on which it is passed

(3) This Act extends to Great Britain and Northern Ireland
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I voted yes when it was put forward accidentally and I stick by with my support
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Didn't I just vote on this in the Division Lobby? :hmmmm2:

EDIT: Oh I see. Well it's a yes anyway.
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You're not having a good day today are you?

I voted aye before and like this Bill. It's still an aye from me.
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You're not having a good day today are you?

I voted aye before and like this Bill. It's still an aye from me.
Yeah, it appears I must have left my brain in bed this morning.
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Yeah, it appears I must have left my brain in bed this morning.
Mistakes happen, we all have days like that. Thanks for amending that so quickly.
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still a no from me, don't see why they should get seperate hospitals.

I believe in universal healthcare, not healthcare that depends on the type of job you do or money you earn.

require NHS hospitals to have the facilities and resources needed and fund them to do so if its a real issue.
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Still no, because it still doesn't discriminate against soldiers who were dishonourably discharged.
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Still no, because it still doesn't discriminate against soldiers who were dishonourably discharged.
That's because I'm still undecided on that.
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That's because I'm still undecided on that.
Just so you know, it's a yes from me if it is changed.
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still a no from me, don't see why they should get seperate hospitals.
1. It is separate.
2. A lot of these soldiers get abused when in a public NHS hospital which is unacceptable if they are fighting for our freedom and to help bring better rights to those abroad.
3. The NHS lacks capacity to take on the regular ill public, let alone wounded soldiers.
(Original post by thunder_chunky)
That's because I'm still undecided on that.
Dishonourably discharged or not they still deserve access to the military hospitals in my opinion, change this to say they can't and I vote no as they still put their lives on the line for us.
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I think I'll leave it as it is. I can always submit an amendment or addition at a later date.
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(Original post by tehFrance)
1. It is separate.
2. A lot of these soldiers get abused when in a public NHS hospital which is unacceptable if they are fighting for our freedom and to help bring better rights to those abroad.
3. The NHS lacks capacity to take on the regular ill public, let alone wounded soldiers.
1. okay grammar nazi
2. I have yet to see anything other than anecdotal evidence of this...and frankly your view of what they do is highly idealized and ignorant.
3. which is why NHS funding needs to be increased...for EVERYONE's benefit, not just one profession.
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1. okay grammar nazi
2. I have yet to see anything other than anecdotal evidence of this...and frankly your view of what they do is highly idealized and ignorant.
3. which is why NHS funding needs to be increased...for EVERYONE's benefit, not just one profession.
1. Yes that's me :fuhrer:
2. There have been reports, can't remember where I read it so I may be mixing it up
3. What the NHS needs is a complete restructuring programme to improve service not more money.
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1. Yes that's me :fuhrer:
2. There have been reports, can't remember where I read it so I may be mixing it up
3. What the NHS needs is a complete restructuring programme to improve service not more money.
2. anecdotal ones in right wing papers from what I recall...

3. it needs some changes sure, PFI's, Foundation Hospitals and other marketization creeps need to go, managers are too numerous and overpaid also, but there is little doubt from what I have seen and read that some hospitals and services need more funding to meet demand, imo you don't skimp out on healthcare.
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2. I have yet to see anything other than anecdotal evidence of this...and frankly your view of what they do is highly idealized and ignorant.
And yours is painfully patronising, at least in my view.
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And yours is painfully patronising, at least in my view.
yes, clearly not blindly worshiping anyone who works in the british army is patronizing :rolleyes:
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(Original post by SciFiBoy)
2. I have yet to see anything other than anecdotal evidence of this...and frankly your view of what they do is highly idealized and ignorant.
(Original post by SciFiBoy)
yes, clearly not blindly worshiping anyone who works in the british army is patronizing : rolleyes :
Again. It's nothing to do with whatever you believe about the armed forces, it's more to do with the way that you dismiss someone else's opinion out of hand.
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yes, clearly not blindly worshiping anyone who works in the british army is patronizing :rolleyes:
Who said I blindly support the British army? I don't but I do believe that even those that are dishonourably discharged still have the right to medical treatment that is not in the public domain where they have a chance of being abused by the ungrateful public.
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This is in cessation.
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