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I think they should absolutely be allowed to adopt, any loving couple who wants children should, and they won't make their kids wear bad shoes.
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I think it's disgusting even to THINK about gay people adopting children. is it fair on the kid? Come on, kids are MEANT to have a mother and a father. If not, how do they learn stuff from them? I mean, emotionally, that's the way its supposed to be. I mean, just think about it - you can't MAKE a baby without a woman and a man, so why should it be sensible to bring them up with two men - or two women. it's silly, it's perverted, and it's sick.
And dont start up about single parents - sometimes it's inevitable, but its not advisable, and once again I state the fact that a man and a woman together create the most stable environment for a kid, and if a man and a woman would THINK about how they are emotionally damaging the CHILD before divorcing, etc., maybe there wouldn't be so many hasty divorces.
Personally I find those who expose too much flesh (including women) sick, some parts of religion, and porn for that matter, guess it's subjective. :rolleyes: Can't wait for the winter to arrive. And about woman and man. What's the deal with single parents then? Plenty of them about.
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Not necessairly, I think that would be very offensive to a LOT of single parents and their children, just because it was hard to get somewhere, doesn't mean it's not a thing to be proud of i.e. what if a mother struggled for years to leave her violent husband, and finally did, I think that's something to be hugely proud of. I also think that any parent who successfully manages to keep together a family with the pressures of modern society should be extremely proud.



Maybe true of SOME people, but dont transfer your own horrid little prejudices onto swathes of people without actually knowing anything about their opinions in the first place :rolleyes:

I will tell you the pride of most single parent is when the kids turn out to be good which means their sweat wasnt wasted. beyond that ... think again
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so stop comparing as i really do not think single parents would appreciate been compared in the same light with gay parents :tsr:
you are right.... most single parent families wouldn't, due to the fact that there is so much more support, and stability around for children in a family where there are two adults than one... (this may surprise you, but gay couples do actually supply two, individual, adults, whom are both able to support the child in their own way, and as a pertnership...)

i really don't think that single parents would appreciate being compared to gay couples in EXACTLY the same way as STRAIGHT couples: in a single parent family, if something goes wrong, or if the parent gets stressed/upset, there is very rearely a place to turn to... it in lonely, and VERY hard... and i think that if you ask single parents, most would appreciate how much more a child could get from living in an environment, even a gay one, where there are more parents to give support (to both the child and the other parent) than just the one....
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I don't see why there's anything wrong with single parents, they eventually find a mate and ta da. A 'stable' family. I'd prefer having a child be with a single parent than a gay couple.

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I don't see why there's anything wrong with single parents, they eventually find a mate and ta da. A 'stable' family. I'd prefer having a child be with a single parent than a gay couple.

A.B.
i never said there was, just that a single parent would probably be able to appreciate the advantages of being in couple....

and the 'eventually find a mate' is a VERY large assumption... its often incredibly hard, 1: to meet someone when looking after kids as the sole carer, and 2: keeping that partner with the blessing of your kids, and with the partner accepting them aswell....and that's assuming that the parent wants another partner having separated (for whatever reason) from their old spouse...
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Should Gays be allowed to adopt?
Why I'd be as proud as punch to go to school and tell my classmates that I had two wonderful daddy's.


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For my English coursework, I chose to argue this topic for my discursive essay. (It got full marks. Yes, I am wonderful, thank you )

My opinion is yes, they should be allowed to adopt.

While researching for my essay, I was shocked to discover that single gay people can adopt without any trouble, but a gay couple cannot. Why on earth is this? It sounds like the system is trying to stamp down on homosexuality; either live your life alone without a partner, "become" straight, or forget any hopes of raising children! One of the main escuses given for gay couples not allowing to adopt, is that some feel it would be an "unstable" home for children to be brought up in...surely a home with two parents, gay or not, would be more stable than one who is being prevented from finding a partner?

I fail to see the logic in banning the masses of gay couples willing and able to adop children, when there are so many out there alone, parentless, and who are moved from temporary home to temporary home. Until there is some stable evidence to say that all gay couples are a bad influence on children and are incapable parents, I can't see any reason to stop them raising a child.

Yes there are some reasons against them adopting, which have been mentioned on this thread, but they aren't good enough reasons to deny them their right. There's the fact that the children could be teased at school; but so would children who have overweight parents, or parents of a different religion or race than the majority of children at that school, but I have yet to hear of overweight people being told to lose weight before adopting.

As for the theroy that every child needs two parents and they should consist of a male and a female, there hasn't been any evidence of single parents rasing mentally or physically unstable children; if there was, their right to adoption would have been questioned a long time ago.

The list goes on and on...a pile of feeble excuses, all of which are based on ignorant opinons and which are no where near strong enough to deny any gay couple the right to adopt.

The ban will be lifted soon enough, and people years from now will look back on our time and think of our system as shocking and disgusting; just like the majority of us look back on Victorian times and view their treatment of women as a disgrace. It'll just take time, like every other problem in this world which is being prevented from being solved due to prejudiced and narrow minded views.
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There's the fact that the children could be teased at school; but so would children who have overweight parents, or parents of a different religion or race than the majority of children at that school, but I have yet to hear of overweight people being told to lose weight before adopting.
Here's an example, I go to a Catholic school, nuns, chapel, and all of that. But I'm not Catholic, nor are my parents. Yes, they've teased me, but in a good natured way. There is a whole variety of religions these days; overweight parents, a whole bunch of people are 'too thin' ot a little bit on the fat side or just plain 'fat'. BUT only one type of socially accepted couple: female and male.
Maybe someday homosexuals will be accepted, and maybe they can adopt children without criticism one day. But MY personal opinion is that they shouldn't. Why? Because it creates an unstable environment at home, and home is where everything starts, a good education, a balanced diet, sharing and caring, etc. But each of these things are affected by certain factors, wether the family is poor or rich, tall or short, Catholic or Jewish, gay or straight.
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But MY personal opinion is that they shouldn't. Why? Because it creates an unstable environment at home, and home is where everything starts, a good education, a balanced diet, sharing and caring, etc. But each of these things are affected by certain factors, wether the family is poor or rich, tall or short, Catholic or Jewish, gay or straight.
Considering the amount of juveniles I've seen in court who are fat, thick and evil who were dragged up by two rutting heterosexuals, I think it's fair to give homosexuals a try (despite being allowed to anyway).
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(Original post by ~MOi~)
But MY personal opinion is that they shouldn't. Why? Because it creates an unstable environment at home, and home is where everything starts...
How is a home with a gay couple any more unstable than one with straight one? It's all very well to say that your personal opinion is that a gay couple can't provide a stable enviroment for children, but you must have some reason to support this; such an opinion must be based on something.
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How is a home with a gay couple any more unstable than one with straight one? It's all very well to say that your personal opinion is that a gay couple can't provide a stable enviroment for children, but you must have some reason to support this; such an opinion must be based on something.
Evidence from UK sources only.
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Here's an example, I go to a Catholic school, nuns, chapel, and all of that. But I'm not Catholic, nor are my parents. Yes, they've teased me, but in a good natured way. There is a whole variety of religions these days; overweight parents, a whole bunch of people are 'too thin' ot a little bit on the fat side or just plain 'fat'. BUT only one type of socially accepted couple: female and male.
Maybe someday homosexuals will be accepted, and maybe they can adopt children without criticism one day. But MY personal opinion is that they shouldn't. Why? Because it creates an unstable environment at home, and home is where everything starts, a good education, a balanced diet, sharing and caring, etc. But each of these things are affected by certain factors, wether the family is poor or rich, tall or short, Catholic or Jewish, gay or straight.
*******S

Everything you mentioned "good education, a balanced diet, sharing and caring" are things that can easily be obtained from gay parenting.
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(Original post by ~MOi~)
Maybe someday homosexuals will be accepted, and maybe they can adopt children without criticism one day. But MY personal opinion is that they shouldn't. Why? Because it creates an unstable environment at home, and home is where everything starts, a good education, a balanced diet, sharing and caring, etc. But each of these things are affected by certain factors, wether the family is poor or rich, tall or short, Catholic or Jewish, gay or straight.
Yes... so why are you singling gay parents out as the only ones who have an effect on the home environment?
Furthermore, what harm do you think a gay couple are going to do to the child? Because gay parents can certainly share and care, provide a good education and a balanced diet. They're intelligent, normal people you know, and want the best for their children as any other parent would. Your implication that they can't provide such things is insulting to say the least.

EDIT: oh, sorry redroadkill, I didn't read ahead before answering. In fact, you're talking so much sense ( :p: ), rep to you!
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Can homosexuals adopt children in the USA? j/w
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I would feel seriously ****ed up if my parents were a gay couple-i'd be bullied 24.7 and would end up up taking my life.
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Can homosexuals adopt children in the USA? j/w
i suppose it depends which state you happen to live in? any americans? to be honest I'm woefully uninformed - er... can gaypeople adopt together in Britain?
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I would feel seriously ****ed up if my parents were a gay couple-i'd be bullied 24.7 and would end up up taking my life.
Well. That settles that then.

I don't know how you can possibly say that having never experienced anything like it. Maybe you'd be a bit more tolerant and open minded if gay people had brought you up? Maybe a little stronger and able to take the bad parts of life as well as the good?

There is evidence that children of lesbians are just as well adjusted as those of straight couples... your post is pure speculation, with no factual basis. Please attempt to reconcile the two
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I would feel seriously ****ed up if my parents were a gay couple-i'd be bullied 24.7 and would end up up taking my life.
A lot of kids are probably feeling "****ed up" due to the fact that they have no parents and are living in children's homes. A lot of them would probably much prefere someone to love and care for them, regardless of their sexual orientation. OK, if one of these kids really didn't want to be adopted by a gay couple, fair enough. But those who would like to be aren't given the choice, which just isn't fair.
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I would feel seriously ****ed up if my parents were a gay couple-i'd be bullied 24.7 and would end up up taking my life.
Touche! I would've repped you, but no more reppies for me!

October project, yes, yes, yes.... but education, diet, family principles, are ALL affected by the HOME. If the parents are overwiehgt and have some eating disorder, the kid could get disorders, too. i.e McDonalds every day, instead of a healthy diet. etc. How can mal-nutritioned parents give thier child a good diet? Very hard to do. Gay parents are normal BUT they fancy folk of the sam sex. Do you really think that having homosexual parents is the same thing as if they had straight? Same parents theoretically. But the basics are altered. Think about it.
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