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That depends on how well you can concentrate. Yeah, cities have a lot more to do, and you can go out alot more, but at least in American most universtities in the middle of nowhere organize alot of events and shows, too, so you'll be distracted wherever you go!

Has anyone who applied to American universities got in yet?
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A friend of mine has gotten into Boston Uni. She just started this year
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I would really like to go to Uni somewhere in a city. Because at the moment, I'm like..countryside..and I find it really boring. Would the city bring too many distractions though?
Columbia is fantastic, in a great area of Manhatten (bordering Harlem i think). They have this great program whereby you are given Friday off to go and work in the city, doing a kinda sponsorship. They have really big firms take on Columbia students once a week. I think this is fantastic, and would be alot of fun and a good way to ease yourself into the world of work. MIT and Harvard are in both Cambridge, a big student satellite town of Boston. Very beautiful, and with lots to do.
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Columbia is fantastic, in a great area of Manhatten (bordering Harlem i think). They have this great program whereby you are given Friday off to go and work in the city, doing a kinda sponsorship. They have really big firms take on Columbia students once a week. I think this is fantastic, and would be alot of fun and a good way to ease yourself into the world of work. MIT and Harvard are in both Cambridge, a big student satellite town of Boston. Very beautiful, and with lots to do.
Thanks a lot for that!...I was wondering, what are the prices of Columbia? Is it really hard to get into?
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truck loads of money?
Supposing you can pay for a Princeton or a Yale ($30k) or Berkeley ($20k), i.e. your parents can pay even it is still a big sum for them, is it worth it compared to say, a York (UK) on domestic fees of £1100?
In my books, the top US univesristies are unambiguously "better" in just about every respect to the Oxbridges Yorks etc. Far better teaching, and much more of it. Far better resources. A broad gneeral curriculum giving you the freedom to find your own speciality
(the big downside is having to live under the reign of the Republicans etc and being an accomplice to may rotten individualistic traits of US society, although "New" Labour aren't much better I admit).
So do you reckon it is worth it? Some £20,000 more, per year!
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Thanks a lot for that!...I was wondering, what are the prices of Columbia? Is it really hard to get into?

It is fairly hard to get into, like all ivy leagues. I don't think as difficult as Harvard though. If you really like it, you should really apply Early Application as this statistically increases your chances alot. It's available for international applicants, and means that you submit your application to them by Nov 1st and if you are accepted you are "ethically obliged" to go there. They inform other US universities and so you can't apply elsewhere in the US, and expect you to withdraw applications to other international Unis. I would expect Columbia is expensive, given it is in Manhatten. But I don't know for sure.
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In my books, the top US univesristies are unambiguously "better" in just about every respect to the Oxbridges Yorks etc. Far better teaching, and much more of it. Far better resources. A broad gneeral curriculum giving you the freedom to find your own speciality
(the big downside is having to live under the reign of the Republicans etc and being an accomplice to may rotten individualistic traits of US society, although "New" Labour aren't much better I admit).
So do you reckon it is worth it? Some £20,000 more, per year!
Well, I agree that the great American Unis do beat Oxbridge completely in certain areas. But the Liberal Arts approach does not suit everyone. Many students want to get on and specialise at Uni. Many couldn't bear the thought of having to learn a wide variety of topics. Most people at my school aren't suited to this style, on the whole they are either scientists or artists. The scientists would hate to have to learn about greek civilization, or the american constitution. Likewise, the artists would not want to study calculus, or physics. I believe that the first two years in most good Unis is like this. And only after this do you start to specialise. Which introduces the second disadvantage - that usually you spend at least 5 years at american Uni. Again, there are loads of people just dying to start proper work.

If you are suited to the liberal arts approach, any Ivy League beats the hell outta every british Uni in terms of everything - teaching, research, facilities (which is why I am strongly in favour of topup fees. I just wish the Unis could charge more than £3K)
What I am thinking of doing is staying in Britain for my undergraduate studies, and then go to an american graduate school (such as Harvard Business School) to further my speciality. This way you get the best of both worlds.
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Now let's say your taking an arts subject. This means that ultimately you'll be paying 6000 times 4 (4years in college)= 24,000 pounds more than a UK degree at the end of your undergraduage degree...that's a lot of money. True there is financial aid, but you'll be paying loans for a few years ahead.

Someone going to college for the arts would *definately* not be going to Harvard! lol! For instance, the most expensive school a musician would go to is Yale, but that is generally only if they want to minor in music, and become a doctor or lawyer or something.

So, would it be cheaper me to go to a university in UK? Or would it end up costing more because I am from the US? Because I would much rather go to school over there!
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If you go to an in-state public university, than it will probably cost more in the UK, because of the exchange rate and all. Plus living expenses are higher there, so it would add up. But if you want to go to a private university (i.e. Harvard, Yale, Columbia, whatever) it would cost way more than here. So it just depends on what kind of education you want.
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