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Reply 1
Tutorials are generally an important part of teaching here, although it varies from department to department, I get them about once a week on average but I think alot of scientists get them a lot more. Teaching is not done in college but at the central university departments so quality of education is not dependen on the collegiate system.

I don't think it's trying to pretend to be Oxbridge really. It was set up at a time when the collegiate system was all the model there was for a university to follow but there are many difference between here and the oxbridge system, although certainly colleges are about the biggest part of student life in Durham. The university is in the top ten in Britain overall, and is in the top 5 for several subjects including Law, Physics and Archaeology and I've found the quality of teaching here to be very good on the whole.
That greatly depends on what subject you are applying to read and what year of the course you are on. I am a 2nd year physicist and i have no tutorials as such (although i do have 3-hours a week of examples classes instead, and an academic tutor who i can e-mail if i am in desperate need)

Last year i had 3 tutorials a week, one physics and two maths. The physics tutorials were a group of 4 and the maths about 10-15.

As Heavs said, teaching is not done in college. Your college is the centre of you social life really.
Reply 3
Can people doing PPE leave comments about the tutorial system at Durham please?
Reply 4
1 to 1 - not really - not for economics... more like 10-15 to one

and theres loads of differences between duzzer and oxbridge

we're not as anal, we don't have to work as hard... etc etc etc
And, at Oxbridge, you will not get that much time in tutorials for certain subjects.
Reply 6
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Reply 7
We're a bit less pretentious too..
Reply 8
spy007
Hi, at oxbridge the tutorials play a very important part of teaching, with nearly 1 to 1 teaching more than 2 hours a week. Is this how its like at durham in some colleges?

Im thinking of applying, it looks lovely like oxbridge, but is it just trying to pretend it is- or is it very similar with the quality of education in the collegiate system??


Tutorials in my subjects tend to be rather big– more like seminars and infrequent. Academic life isn't based in the colleges, which are basically halls of residence but with more of a sense of community.
So no, the teaching isn't like Oxbridge… however it's still to a high standard, as evidenced by league tables and so on and blah. :biggrin:
Reply 9
In Oxbridge tutorials, the academics are pretentious and will hold a cup of tea differently to show this to everyone...

Their dominion is signified by holding a cup of tea without holding the handle. They cup the mug in their hands cherishingly, as it weren't hot in the slightest, and the handle points toward you, while their hands wrap lovingly around the sides.

I find that the most pretentious thing in the world, closely followed by a slow-paced speech pattern, to try and feign that they are thinking all the time, and sitting in a big, dusty old chair, under the pretense that they aren't cold and despicable.

I have a whole bag of chips on my shoulder. Yes, it's rather hot.
No one does the extensive 1 to 1 tutorials that Oxbridge do anymore.


Several other places did them up to around 10 to 15 years ago but government started to cut back the money to universities drastically and so many universities had to just put more students into the same class or make staff cuts. This dangerous process is still continuing and started to massive rush for favouring international fee paying students (among other things).
Reply 11
One of my tutorials is 4 on 1 which isn't bad and the largest group I'm in is 8.
And it's also so that the government can say that xx% of people go through 'university', by funding loads of courses (laughably called degrees) that will cost the people who do them loads of money and get them very little advantage from doing in the long run. All this just reduces the quality of teaching in decent subjects and devalues the higher education system. Sorry to sound precocious, but I mean, you don't need a degree in media studies to become a journalist - you just need to be a good writer, and that's not something that can (or should) be taught (at the taxpayer's expense).
Reply 13
My tutorials are 7 to 1 :smile:
Reply 14
What, all 2 of them per term? :rolleyes:. We had a discussion with Jim Innes about when the geg. dept. changed from using more tutorials to 'independent learning' a few years ago and there was/is 'a lot of debate within the department over whether that was the right thing to do'.
Reply 15
I do a politics module (Ideas and Ideologies) and for that we have a tutorial every other week in a group of 10. That seems small enough really, you still get plenty of opportunity to speak, and to hear other peoples ideas (which is useful if you haven't done as much reading as you ought). My other modules have their tutorials a bit more randomly, I usually have a couple a week though, for one module or another. They don't even let you get a part-time job at Oxford... I'm guessing the lecturers want to suplement their own incomes with bar-work!
Reply 16
kozwoz
They don't even let you get a part-time job at Oxford... I'm guessing the lecturers want to suplement their own incomes with bar-work!
That is very sensible, although I'm in a probable minority who has a huge amount of contact time (around 30hrs a week) I cant imagine anyone ever having time to have a part time job (other than the college bar) without severe impact on the quality of work
Reply 17
Ouch, what subject do you do?! I only have about 9, so I could manage it no trouble, at least in first year... I don't reckon it's sensible banning people from working either, if their schedules permit it, 'cos i imagine there are a fair few people who need the money... Though to be fair those probably aren't the people that Oxford would take anyway.... Bastards. (can you tell I'm a reject?)
Reply 18
kozwoz
Ouch, what subject do you do?! I only have about 9, so I could manage it no trouble, at least in first year... I don't reckon it's sensible banning people from working either, if their schedules permit it, 'cos i imagine there are a fair few people who need the money... Though to be fair those probably aren't the people that Oxford would take anyway.... Bastards. (can you tell I'm a reject?)
I'm in the 2nd year of chemistry, oh and currently 16 of the hours are on thursday and friday. No a ban maybe is over the top, I accept some people need the money, and to be fair 'those people' arn't at durham in the same way as oxford (well of course they are but less than other unis)
Bear in mind, Oxbridge don't let students fail for running out of cash. Blank cheques galore.