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Very well said! He hasn't replied to my Piaget post either - heehee!
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This could be a really contentious issue! I was just wondering if some people believe that so called "easy Alevels" exist, that advocate unfair allocations of uni places?!

Is it fair that some Unis do not like Art / Drama / Theatre Studies and do not allow these subjects to form part of thier offers?

It is an issue that personally doesn't affect me as i am doing a range of alevels. Biology, Law, Sociology and German.
I find i have to work twice as hard in Bio and German than in sociology to get the same results, as it feels standard-wise its easier to get higher grades in soc than the others. Law, i think is a mid-point!

Is it fair to compare a student with alevel Maths, Science or Language to one with the Arts / media / psychology?

Some subjects seem unfair in ways that the Examiner / Markers opinion is really influential. Like English creative writing and Art. Some art in galleries today are considered masterpieces but wouldnt get an E if they were emulated in an exam.!!

This problem would be solved if we did a Eurpean form of assessment like the Bac? Non?

(ive tried to keep an unbiased view and open up discussion I am not undermining any students work or skill area- please don't slaughter me too much!!)

Hmm, it's really difficult to say I suppose. I do Biol, Chem and Geog and did Physics to AS and I think Phys and Chem are pretty challenging, but then, I can't ever imagine being able to pass an Art orf Theatre Studies exam, as I can't draw and I can't act!! I think, perhaps, sucbjects like Music, Drama, Art and languages require a real flair, whereas other subjects you can blag through at A level a bit more by good solid learning! Of course, it's a different story when you come to do a degree! I'm sure anyone doing a Chemistry degree has an equal, although quite different, talent to someone doing a degree in Fine Art!

Hmm... that was a load of random waffle, sorry! x x x x
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This gets really depressing. Assuming that everyone is who they purport to be, the public school stereotypes seem to be alive and kicking. As a public school boy myself I can only say I've never met anyone like this. Such a shame they have to create false impressions about the rest of us.

Anyway, about the original topic: does anyone here do general studies? I just wondered since my cousin and I were both told by our Cambridge college that their offers did not include general studies.

Mind you I'm doing Geography A2 and getting a lot of stick about it from school mates saying its a piss-easy subject. Not that I'm complaining!
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(Original post by madmazda86)
Very well said! He hasn't replied to my Piaget post either - heehee!
Can't be bpthered scrolling back so tell me what you were saying about good old Piaget.
Boss Lady you can say what you bleeding well want but I can tell you that i attend Habs, i live in Radlett if thats any clue as to who I am.
The psychology girl, quit throwing mickey mouse psychology questions at me and hit me with some real stuff. Mind you you'd probably need to get a p.h.d thesis for that to happen.lol
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Speaking as someone who has done it, Sociology AS does closely resemble a joke.
agreed. I did the whole A-level and it was laughably easy. But then I wanted an easy choice because I did Politics, Eng Lang and Eng Lit too which all had quite a heavy workload.
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Can't be bpthered scrolling back so tell me what you were saying about good old Piaget.
Boss Lady you can say what you bleeding well want but I can tell you that i attend Habs, i live in Radlett if thats any clue as to who I am.
The psychology girl, quit throwing mickey mouse psychology questions at me and hit me with some real stuff. Mind you you'd probably need to get a p.h.d thesis for that to happen.lol
How are they Mickey Mouse questions if you can't even answer them properly? You got them wrong
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(Original post by madmazda86)
How are they Mickey Mouse questions if you can't even answer them properly? You got them wrong
Madmaz, as a fellow Psychology sufferer I know as well as you that this dipsh*t couldn't answer those questions in a million years. In fact, I reckon he's spent the last 2 days desperately trying to research your eloquent questions (hence why he hasn't bothered to rear his ugly head/post). Ah, I've got it- his pc malfunctioned at the info coming in off the Psychology websites he visited- clearly it was only used to websites such as www.needhelppullingwomen.com and www.101waystomakefriends.com
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Whoever this William is, he should be blocked because all he's doing is posting senseless, unconstructive abuse. It's not about state or private schools....no-one is superior and I'm sure most people who attend private schools agree. It's narrowmindedness and lack of respect that is the real problem here.
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Madmaz, as a fellow Psychology sufferer I know as well as you that this dipsh*t couldn't answer those questions in a million years. In fact, I reckon he's spent the last 2 days desperately trying to research your eloquent questions (hence why he hasn't bothered to rear his ugly head/post). Ah, I've got it- his pc malfunctioned at the info coming in off the Psychology websites he visited- clearly it was only used to websites such as "www.needhelppullingwomen.co m" and "www.101waystomakefriends.co m"
*chuckles* Indeed - I Googled my own questions and I can see why he got confused over what came up

Edit: Pesky HTML tags
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(Original post by madmazda86)
*chuckles* Indeed - I Googled my own questions and I can see why he got confused over what came up

Edit: Pesky HTML tags
He probably spelt 'Google' Goggle. And I'm quite sure 'Psychology' is way out of his league- and I'm just talking about spelling the word, let alone the actual subject. Have u noticed Boss Lady's posts? He's even lying about attending a private school. What a sad, sad little boy :rolleyes:
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Can't be bpthered scrolling back so tell me what you were saying about good old Piaget.
Boss Lady you can say what you bleeding well want but I can tell you that i attend Habs, i live in Radlett if thats any clue as to who I am.
The psychology girl, quit throwing mickey mouse psychology questions at me and hit me with some real stuff. Mind you you'd probably need to get a p.h.d thesis for that to happen.lol
Right, well anyone can claim to live in Radlett anyway. And you don't seem to have answered any of my questions which is a bit suspicious.....
I assume William Foster is not your real name then though.....
Let's assume you do attend Habs (although I must admit I'm still unconvinced), why are you acting in such a snobbish way as to bring our school into disrepute? You don't seem to have ANY respect for anyone else.
I agree that alot of these subjects mentioned before e.g film studies probably don't involve very much tradiitonal academic work and are more vocational, and in this way I do think A-levels are being watered down abit, saying you have an a-level has much less of an affect. I don't think you should be able to go around saying you have AAAAA at A-level when they were all in subjects like media sudies, film studies etc, whereas a person with BBBBB in stuff like chemistry, maths, english etc can't and yet probably has had a much more rigorous course. However, universities recognise this and therefore give more credit to these traditional subjects which are more intense and basically harder to study. There should i reckon be a VA(vocational a-level) and AA(academic alevel) to create a clear distinction between the two. I think you gotta learn how to express your views in a calmer manner dude. And by the way, in the girls school we can do Theatre Studies in the Sixth form, my mate did it for AS, and my bro is doing GCSE computing/ IT and okay granted you guys do it one year early but still, it doesn't look terribly "academic". In all fairness though every other option available here for A levels/ GCSE is very academic.

Basically my main worry with these so calledf easy a levels is the fact that I don't think the courses are as intense as they should be. There are many cases where someone has wagged all their media studies classes at school and yet ended up with an A in media studies, whereas with chemistry or something of the like, that would be impossible!
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I agree that alot of these subjects mentioned before e.g film studies probably don't involve very much tradiitonal academic work and are more vocational, and in this way I do think A-levels are being watered down abit, saying you have an a-level has much less of an affect. I don't think you should be able to go around saying you have AAAAA at A-level when they were all in subjects like media sudies, film studies etc, whereas a person with BBBBB in stuff like chemistry, maths, english etc can't and yet probably has had a much more rigorous course. However, universities recognise this and therefore give more credit to these traditional subjects which are more intense and basically harder to study. There should i reckon be a VA(vocational a-level) and AA(academic alevel) to create a clear distinction between the two. I think you gotta learn how to express your views in a calmer manner dude. And by the way, in the girls school we can do Theatre Studies in the Sixth form, my mate did it for AS, and my bro is doing GCSE computing/ IT and okay granted you guys do it one year early but still, it doesn't look terribly "academic". In all fairness though every other option available here for A levels/ GCSE is very academic.

Basically my main worry with these so calledf easy a levels is the fact that I don't think the courses are as intense as they should be. There are many cases where someone has wagged all their media studies classes at school and yet ended up with an A in media studies, whereas with chemistry or something of the like, that would be impossible!

I can't say that we done anything that I'd consider particularly "vocational" in either Media or Film... maybe the media production coursework for AS media, but that's only one part of the AS course, and everything in the second year is essay based. I also don't know anybody who's wagged all the lessons and came out with an A in either subject... in fact I only know one person who came out with an A in media, but that was due to one particular module that everybody screwed up I think.

I like media because it's a way of looking at society through something which had an enormous impact on it... why is that not worth studying?
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I like media because it's a way of looking at society through something which had an enormous impact on it... why is that not worth studying?
Because narrowminded idiots think they are cool bad mouthing courses they don't understand. They lack the ability to think outside the box.
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Because narrowminded idiots think they are cool bad mouthing courses they don't understand. They lack the ability to think outside the box.
Well... yeah, basically.
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Because narrowminded idiots think they are cool bad mouthing courses they don't understand. They lack the ability to think outside the box.
Uncalled for. No point disrespecting someone and claiming they don't understand! At least Frances was tryng to tell me about the course.
Don't do a William Foster on me!

I haven't done the course, so it is hard to comment I must admit. Alot of the knowledge I have about the course is hearsay, however someone posted a link to some past exam questions on here somehwere and when I had a look at them, I felt I would have been able to have a reasonable stab at them without having had any classes in the subject. I am doubtful I could do this with biology for example. I am not saying I would get a good grade, or even pass!! But I suspect I could probably get by in it, whereas with like bio I'd need such specialist in depth knowledge, I'd be pretty much stuck.

Also, I am not sure the point of doing media. Job wise it isn't really that useful, and okay you say you enjoy studying it...But I study chess (yes I study it not play it) and yet I'm not saying there should be an A-level in Chess studies or soemthing.
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Look Suz ask me that question about Piaget again i never read your post.
I am not stupid enough to give my identity away like that, I can have you or anyone damaging my reputation (maybe not too great but at least i have a good one).
I never bragged about getting straight A's, indeed i cannot as i got a B in AS maths (and yes i'm proud of myself for it).
Ok maybe SOME of those subjects are not as easy as made out to be but you've got to admit some are just abysmal.
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Uncalled for. No point disrespecting someone and claiming they don't understand! At least Frances was tryng to tell me about the course.
Don't do a William Foster on me!

I haven't done the course, so it is hard to comment I must admit. Alot of the knowledge I have about the course is hearsay, however someone posted a link to some past exam questions on here somehwere and when I had a look at them, I felt I would have been able to have a reasonable stab at them without having had any classes in the subject. I am doubtful I could do this with biology for example. I am not saying I would get a good grade, or even pass!! But I suspect I could probably get by in it, whereas with like bio I'd need such specialist in depth knowledge, I'd be pretty much stuck.

Also, I am not sure the point of doing media. Job wise it isn't really that useful, and okay you say you enjoy studying it...But I study chess (yes I study it not play it) and yet I'm not saying there should be an A-level in Chess studies or soemthing.
Yeah, sciences and maths and stuff you probably would need to have studied the subjects to even have a clue what the questions are going on about. Media Studies you could probably have a go at without going to the lessons, but it doesn't mean you have the knowledge or the theory to actually get anything close to the answer they're looking for. And you could probably do the same with something like an English Lit. exam to be honest...having looked at the exam paper, I could have a good stab at those questions. However, this wouldn't mean that my answer would be any good or that English lit. is easy.

And I don't care about jobs right now, I'm taking A levels to get onto a good degree at a good University, which I've managed. And I actually find that considering I'm doing a politics degree, there is actuall a reasonable amount of relevant stuff in media and film.
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And you could probably do the same with something like an English Lit. exam to be honest...having looked at the exam paper, I could have a good stab at those questions. However, this wouldn't mean that my answer would be any good or that English lit. is easy.
How the hell could you answer an English Lit paper without having studied the text? Are you confused or something?
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Yeah, sciences and maths and stuff you probably would need to have studied the subjects to even have a clue what the questions are going on about. Media Studies you could probably have a go at without going to the lessons, but it doesn't mean you have the knowledge or the theory to actually get anything close to the answer they're looking for. And you could probably do the same with something like an English Lit. exam to be honest...having looked at the exam paper, I could have a good stab at those questions. However, this wouldn't mean that my answer would be any good or that English lit. is easy.

And I don't care about jobs right now, I'm taking A levels to get onto a good degree at a good University, which I've managed. And I actually find that considering I'm doing a politics degree, there is actuall a reasonable amount of relevant stuff in media and film.
No i doubt you would be able to have a decent stab at english lit because you do have to know the book in question for that. Question, What kind of things do you study in media?

And I think it's a bit shortsighted of you to dismiss jobs, logic should tell you that the university will not be the only thing that gets you a job. Your alevels are another factor that will. Also most of the top unis do actually look down on things such as media. Maybe this represents the fact that it is new and therefore unestablished, but it does seem to be less hard than others.....
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How the hell could you answer an English Lit paper without having studied the text? Are you confused or something?
That's the point. You couldn't answer the media studies questions without studying the texts that you need... they may not ask about specific texts, but you are supposed to study some and use them in your answer... but everybody studies different things, so they don't ask about one in particular. But you need to actually look at it in some detail and to know it pretty well.

The Reading the Media text you don't see until the exam, but you do need to be able to apply the key concepts that you've learnt in order to do well. You may think it sounds simple, but it didn't stop 17 people in my year getting a U on that module last year.
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