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British National Party: Party Platform
There seems to be a great deal of BNP debate going on here, so I was wondering if any BNP members could explain their parties platform, and personal views that led them to join the BNP.
If you are not a BNP member, please do not post here. I would like to get the BNP side of the story. Please no anti-BNP, or debate provoking posts. I want this to be a discussion from BNP members, so that I can find out what BNP members actually believe.
Later, after there has been some discussion, I would not mnd some debates, but not at this point.
Cheers.
If you are not a BNP member, please do not post here. I would like to get the BNP side of the story. Please no anti-BNP, or debate provoking posts. I want this to be a discussion from BNP members, so that I can find out what BNP members actually believe.
Later, after there has been some discussion, I would not mnd some debates, but not at this point.
Cheers.
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What made me join?
I've noticed that Whites are second rate citizens for quite a few years but was blinded by the BBC propaganda that the BNP was evil and wanted to kill anyone who couldn't trace English ancestory back 40 million years. Then I watched the program that 'exposed' the BNP on TV, I found it interesting and wanted to find out more about the party so consulted their website, where I read the news articles and learnt was was happening to this country. I read the manifesto and found myself agreeing with practically every point so joined the party.
Why hear about the party's platform from us? Why not just look at their website: http://www.bnp.org.uk/policies/policies.htm
It would take me hours to explain all that.
I've noticed that Whites are second rate citizens for quite a few years but was blinded by the BBC propaganda that the BNP was evil and wanted to kill anyone who couldn't trace English ancestory back 40 million years. Then I watched the program that 'exposed' the BNP on TV, I found it interesting and wanted to find out more about the party so consulted their website, where I read the news articles and learnt was was happening to this country. I read the manifesto and found myself agreeing with practically every point so joined the party.
Why hear about the party's platform from us? Why not just look at their website: http://www.bnp.org.uk/policies/policies.htm
It would take me hours to explain all that.
Aristogeiton
What made me join?
I've noticed that Whites are second rate citizens for quite a few years but was blinded by the BBC propaganda that the BNP was evil and wanted to kill anyone who couldn't trace English ancestory back 40 million years. Then I watched the program that 'exposed' the BNP on TV, I found it interesting and wanted to find out more about the party so consulted their website, where I read the news articles and learnt was was happening to this country. I read the manifesto and found myself agreeing with practically every point so joined the party.
Why hear about the party's platform from us? Why not just look at their website: http://www.bnp.org.uk/policies/policies.htm
It would take me hours to explain all that.
I've noticed that Whites are second rate citizens for quite a few years but was blinded by the BBC propaganda that the BNP was evil and wanted to kill anyone who couldn't trace English ancestory back 40 million years. Then I watched the program that 'exposed' the BNP on TV, I found it interesting and wanted to find out more about the party so consulted their website, where I read the news articles and learnt was was happening to this country. I read the manifesto and found myself agreeing with practically every point so joined the party.
Why hear about the party's platform from us? Why not just look at their website: http://www.bnp.org.uk/policies/policies.htm
It would take me hours to explain all that.
So you felt that Whites were being discriminated against, and that was what made you want to join the BNP?
no, I didn't 'feel' that. I 'saw' that Whites are discriminated against. Plus I agree with the BNP's other policies - the education ones, the ones on the enviroment and capital punishment for example.
I also realized what Labour was doing to this once great country - it's a joke what this country is turning into.
I also realized what Labour was doing to this once great country - it's a joke what this country is turning into.
The BNP are a working class party, who espouse a very fascist message. Obviuosly this means economically left wing policeis and socially right-wing policies.
As far as I am concerned being economically left-wing in this day and age is VERY backward and this alone sohuld be enough for people to shy away from this party.
For most, it is the socailly right-wing measures which they find repulsing.
They stand FAR apart from my libertarian principles, although I am a patriot, as is demonstrated by the British flag hanging behind me and my belief that the British Empire was a net good for the world.
As far as I am concerned being economically left-wing in this day and age is VERY backward and this alone sohuld be enough for people to shy away from this party.
For most, it is the socailly right-wing measures which they find repulsing.
They stand FAR apart from my libertarian principles, although I am a patriot, as is demonstrated by the British flag hanging behind me and my belief that the British Empire was a net good for the world.
Aristogeiton
no, I didn't 'feel' that. I 'saw' that Whites are discriminated against. Plus I agree with the BNP's other policies - the education ones, the ones on the enviroment and capital punishment for example.
I also realized what Labour was doing to this once great country - it's a joke what this country is turning into.
I also realized what Labour was doing to this once great country - it's a joke what this country is turning into.
So there was the environmental and social policy aspect of the BNP that attracted you?
SolInvincitus
So there was the environmental and social policy aspect of the BNP that attracted you?
Absolutely - it was the combination of all the policies that made me join. I particularly like the education, law and order, enviromental and military policies though.
This is the only party who are interested in keeping and securing British customs, culture, traditions and exists to secure a future for the indigenous peoples of these islands in the North Atlantic which have been our homeland for millennia. We use the term indigenous to describe the people whose ancestors were the earliest settlers here after the last great Ice Age and which have been complemented by the historic migrations from mainland Europe. The migrations of the Celts, Anglo-Saxons, Danes, Norse and closely related kindred peoples have been, over the past few thousands years, instrumental in defining the character of our family of nations.
Batazer
This is the only party who are interested in keeping and securing British customs, culture, traditions and exists to secure a future for the indigenous peoples of these islands in the North Atlantic which have been our homeland for millennia. We use the term indigenous to describe the people whose ancestors were the earliest settlers here after the last great Ice Age and which have been complemented by the historic migrations from mainland Europe. The migrations of the Celts, Anglo-Saxons, Danes, Norse and closely related kindred peoples have been, over the past few thousands years, instrumental in defining the character of our family of nations.
There are many ways to be patriotic and there are many ways for standing up for your country. The BNP cannot stand for Britain as a whole. They represent a very small and very extreme subset of opinion. You are entitled to your beliefs in a democracy of course.
gideon2000uk
There are many ways to be patriotic and there are many ways for standing up for your country.
How can I be patriotic or stand up for my own country when I can't even fly the English flag without being called racist because of political correctness gone mad thanks to New Labour.
I used to support the Cons because i thought that they would want the morals and pride back into the country instead of all this PC and focusing on the minorities instead of the majority i also hoped they would stop immagration, fat chance though.
However after what ive seen over the years and becomming more aware about politics they are just the same as labour.
After watching interveiws on TV with Nick Griffin you have to amire how he does not submit or change his veiws just because they call him racist, he always answers the question straight, unlike nearly all of the LabLibCons.
At the end of the day i feel like im alienated in my own country letting in all these folks and giving them more rights than the indigenous population. Equal opportunity isn't Equal opportunity anymore it's Equal outcome which is wrong.
I feel we have lost all morals in this country with killings everyday, teenage pregancys,sexual deseases everywhere, Chavs which throw bricks at amublances, gun crime, loss of community and ghettos where some white can't walk around incase of being set appon.
And i blame the government of now and past. You can't blame people for wanting a better life trying to come to the UK however we can't take in the whole world either, because somtimes you gotta look after youself first.
I belive the BNP would sort this country out for the better. Make crime really pay by hanging murders and pedos and stop people comming here and just living off benifits.
My beliefs might not be so strong if i could say what i wanted however it always comes down to shut up you racist bigot nazi its either that or jail.
Sorry its not very constructed but im quiet tired.
However after what ive seen over the years and becomming more aware about politics they are just the same as labour.
After watching interveiws on TV with Nick Griffin you have to amire how he does not submit or change his veiws just because they call him racist, he always answers the question straight, unlike nearly all of the LabLibCons.
At the end of the day i feel like im alienated in my own country letting in all these folks and giving them more rights than the indigenous population. Equal opportunity isn't Equal opportunity anymore it's Equal outcome which is wrong.
I feel we have lost all morals in this country with killings everyday, teenage pregancys,sexual deseases everywhere, Chavs which throw bricks at amublances, gun crime, loss of community and ghettos where some white can't walk around incase of being set appon.
And i blame the government of now and past. You can't blame people for wanting a better life trying to come to the UK however we can't take in the whole world either, because somtimes you gotta look after youself first.
I belive the BNP would sort this country out for the better. Make crime really pay by hanging murders and pedos and stop people comming here and just living off benifits.
My beliefs might not be so strong if i could say what i wanted however it always comes down to shut up you racist bigot nazi its either that or jail.
Sorry its not very constructed but im quiet tired.
Batazer
How can I be patriotic or stand up for my own country when I can't even fly the English flag without being called racist because of political correctness gone mad thanks to New Labour.
As far as I am aware there is no law against flying the English flag. It all comes with property rights. If anyone tried to make you take your flag down I'm sure you would win in the courts. Liberty is the strongest political force in my opinion, and the right to fly a flag is hardly controversial in my view. I actually have a British flag hanging behind me now in my room at university; the worst comment i've had is that it's 'tacky.'
I'm not the biggest fan of labour; however there are some policies which you might agree with:
*citizenship tests/ceremonies
*terror laws
Personally, I'm not that right-wing on immigration. The centre ground at the moment says the sensible thing; namely, that we should allow only immigration that is economcally beneficial to our country. As far as I can see, this represents a very patriotic and sensible policy on the matter.
Most people in this country would also agree that asylum claims need to be sped up and bogus claimants need to be removed swiftly. I agree with the Conservatives, that they should work instead of sponging of the state and that failed applicants should be promptly removed. We do have a patriotic duty to look after our fair share of genuine applicants however and tihs duty should also be a patriotic duty.
gideon2000uk
As far as I am aware there is no law against flying the English flag. It all comes with property rights. If anyone tried to make you take your flag down I'm sure you would win in the courts. Liberty is the strongest political force in my opinion, and the right to fly a flag is hardly controversial in my view. I actually have a British flag hanging behind me now in my room at university; the worst comment i've had is that it's 'tacky.'
http://www.bnp.org.uk/news_detail.php?newsId=668
http://www.bnp.org.uk/news_detail.php?newsId=561
http://www.bnp.org.uk/news_detail.php?newsId=548
And my personal *favourite*:
http://www.bnp.org.uk/news_detail.php?newsId=539
Sirlooney
I feel we have lost all morals in this country with killings everyday, teenage pregancys,sexual deseases everywhere, Chavs which throw bricks at amublances, gun crime, loss of community and ghettos where some white can't walk around incase of being set appon.
I do wonder what exactly you expect the government to do about all of this?
Obviously, as ever, we need a strong police force, fair laws, justice, adequate prison capacity and tough sentences for criminals.
We also need to give power back to teachers to administer stricter punishments in schools, so they do not live in fear of attack from students.
As for everything else. I'm not sure how you could make any real diffrence. What exactly would you suggest to remedy these ills?
Well...stronger police force, fair laws, justice, capital punishment, corporal punishment, national service...there are lots of ways.
This is all appauling as everyone on this forum would freely admit. I hardly think the BNP are the right organisation to champion the right ot fly the flag however considering that they are part of the problem in many people's eyes.
I would certainly support a motion in Parliament to make flying the flag of your country on your property a right as if such a right needs to be spelled out.
I blame all of the lefty idiots coming out of university these days, who are taught to hate our country from an early age by so many liberal teachers.
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Aristogeiton
Well...stronger police force, fair laws, justice, capital punishment, corporal punishment, national service...there are lots of ways.
National service is taking it a bit further than I would like because it compels people to change their life plans and there is no need for such a diversion away from economically useful activity, it is not an AWFUL idea though. Perhaps it could be used as a tool to straighten out young offenders.
My main objection is that I am a middle-class ponse and I would hate it, however much pride and respect I do hold for the people who die and have died to protect my liberty, I would hate to be compelled to be tortured my some nasty drill sergeant.
Um.... gideon2000uk...
He doesn't want a debate, this is a fact finding mission.
I'm aware that my posting to point this out is a little hypocritical, as I'm not a BNP member, but why not respect the OP's request that only BNP members reply about their motivations and resons for joining the party? He says this isn't a thread for debate, but that it's purely for the BNP members on this forum to give their reasons.
SolInvincitus
If you are not a BNP member, please do not post here. I would like to get the BNP side of the story. Please no anti-BNP, or debate provoking posts. I want this to be a discussion from BNP members, so that I can find out what BNP members actually believe.
He doesn't want a debate, this is a fact finding mission.
I'm aware that my posting to point this out is a little hypocritical, as I'm not a BNP member, but why not respect the OP's request that only BNP members reply about their motivations and resons for joining the party? He says this isn't a thread for debate, but that it's purely for the BNP members on this forum to give their reasons.
^ he does want explanation of the party's platform though, which I'm sort of providing.
I think it would straighten people out. Teenagers have practically no respect at all these days, they just hang around on street corners looking intimidating or whatnot (obviously, not all do this, but there is quite a few). And national service would help them grow up before university, give them some pride in the country, some sense of morals, respect for their peers and elders, discipline, perhaps help them get fitter - there's a lot of benefits.
There'd be a choice between military or civil service for people - so you wouldn't even get a drill sergeant!
gideon2000uk
National service is taking it a bit further than I would like because it compels people to change their life plans and there is no need for such a diversion away from economically useful activity, it is not an AWFUL idea though. Perhaps it could be used as a tool to straighten out young offenders.
My main objection is that I am a middle-class ponse and I would hate it, however much pride and respect I do hold for the people who die and have died to protect my liberty, I would hate to be compelled to be tortured my some nasty drill sergeant.
My main objection is that I am a middle-class ponse and I would hate it, however much pride and respect I do hold for the people who die and have died to protect my liberty, I would hate to be compelled to be tortured my some nasty drill sergeant.
I think it would straighten people out. Teenagers have practically no respect at all these days, they just hang around on street corners looking intimidating or whatnot (obviously, not all do this, but there is quite a few). And national service would help them grow up before university, give them some pride in the country, some sense of morals, respect for their peers and elders, discipline, perhaps help them get fitter - there's a lot of benefits.
There'd be a choice between military or civil service for people - so you wouldn't even get a drill sergeant!
Aristogeiton
^ he does want explanation of the party's platform though, which I'm sort of providing.
Oh yeah, that too. My comments weren't aimed at you.
Though I suppse gideon's replies are intelligently challenging you to reply with your beliefs and those explanations. Hm. Carry on.
I appologise for being provocative -- Please continue posting BNP members. I am just as curious as Sol Invictus!
I'm particularly curious about:
*why you joined
*voluntary repatriation
*your outdated socialist economic policy of nationalisation and protectionsm
Apart from these issue I am also concerned to hear BNP policy on homosexuality, because I understand that usually the far-right take quite an extreme view and I would be concerned that my recently won rights of civil partnership would be taken away from me as well as my right to practice my sexuality in my own home.
Again... Appologies for seeming overly provocative and for derailing the thread somewhat... I do have a great deal of respect for those who are not afraid to stand up for what they believe is right for their country.
I'm particularly curious about:
*why you joined
*voluntary repatriation
*your outdated socialist economic policy of nationalisation and protectionsm
Apart from these issue I am also concerned to hear BNP policy on homosexuality, because I understand that usually the far-right take quite an extreme view and I would be concerned that my recently won rights of civil partnership would be taken away from me as well as my right to practice my sexuality in my own home.
Again... Appologies for seeming overly provocative and for derailing the thread somewhat... I do have a great deal of respect for those who are not afraid to stand up for what they believe is right for their country.
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