In the news recently, there has been discussion about grammar schools. Do you think grammar schools are a good idea, or should they be scrapped?
Personally, I think they're a good idea
Scrap Grammar Schools and the UK's education system will just fall further and further into mediocrity. And your poll doesn't make any sense - the options should be "Good" and "Bad", not "Yes" and "No"
Grammar schools give the impression of making kids do well by siphoning off the most academic while leaving the rest with a poorer educational experience.
Most people support grammar schools right up to the point they or their kids don't get in.
It really is one of the only ways for the social mobility of bright kids from less fortunate backgrounds. Obviously I am aware of the affect it has on the comprehensives in the same area however, if someone wants to do well at a comp they will. I lived in Essex and went to one of the grammars here until the end of my gcses in 2009 and really the grammar school system does benefit Essex's education system a heck of a lot. many people from my year were not well off at but they were bright so they got in. Another important point is they perform better than the private schools.
Talking as someone who, for a period in my life, went to an area where most people did the 11+ , it is IMPOSSIBLE to overemphasize how much pressure is placed on the poor kids who do it. Schools make virtue of the fact they start cramming the kids when they are 9! Parents go to ridiculous lengths. You'd just get people buying their way in with tuition.
And to be fair if you took 20 bright kids, yes you're going to have better results because they're the brightest! Duh!
I really don't think educational segregation should happen at such a young age.
Your poll suggests them as urgently required.
I go to a grammar school and it certainly isn't about more support and better facilities - our school is very ill equipped in particular areas and there have been many issues, no doubt there are some good teachers however by and large the VAST majority of work is self done by students who doss till study leave and cram hard, like the case in most other schools. If there is anything a grammar school who provides it is the overtly competitive atmosphere.
Which in some ways is a positive in producing results but obviously must have some negagtives about it as well. As it stands there are numerous grammar schools around the country which have been producing consistent results over the past 100 years and do provide the environment for those who wish to really push their academics bounds.
Can I also point out the fact my brother failed to get into the grammar school that I go to, and at his current school he is being FORCED to take a BTEC, whereas at grammar schools that isn't the case.
The BTECs are easier for the less academic, which will boost the grades of comprehensive schools, but I don't see why academic people in comprehensive schools should be forced to take a BTEC when they're capable of taking a GCSE?
Grammar schools are a bad idea. They force segregation on society from the age of 11. They place unnecessary pressure on people at the age of 11. In most cases a child's future is determined at the age of 11, not allowing for late developers or for people of have issues/problems around this time. The 11+ exam is also something that those with money can take advantage of, paying for private tuition from an early age whilst those without the money cannot do this, putting their children at a disadvantage.
Whilst there will always be some exceptions to what I've said above (the exceptions being the things pro-grammar school people through around to defeat these points) the above are the general trends you definitely see in places where you have Grammar schools.
They basically promote elitism and segregation and force some parts of society to stay down. I wouldn't support a move back to having more grammar schools.
We need to ensure that all our schools are decent schools and that all pupils can flourish at every single school in the country.
I went to Grammar school, and it was a bit like going to private school except you didn't pay. Most of the parents were still the wealthiest people in the area and a lot of the students were pretty lazy despite being intelligent. The teaching quality was fairly high but there were some absolutely dreadful teachers so it all balanced out. It was a very good school, though. One of the best in the area.
I'm in favour of grammar schools, but I think they separate ability too early. I'd advocate testing at 13 or 14 instead of 9 or 10, because kids are too young to take that sort of pressure at that young age. In addition, the test should be secret and no practice papers released so that kids with richer parents can't get expensive tutoring to give less able but wealthier kids too much of an advantage.
The lower ability schools should be no less funded and have more emphasis on subjects outside of academics, without preventing those there to be academic if they wish to. If people come out with a plumbing qualification that's better than coming out with 4 Es at A Level.
Meh never really saw the point in going to one, parents pushed me to go but I insisted my comprehensive was good enough.