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Consequences of selling to under-age
A friend of mine has been caught by trading standards for selling alcohol to an under 18. She doesn't make a habit of it, and it was an honest mistake. We both work in a supermarket that has a good record for this sort of thing, so i'd assume they wouldn't make an example of her. Apparently she's been cautioned. They say they could still take it to the courts, but it's difficult to say right now. She's planning to go to uni in September.
Does anyone know what trading standards usually do in this sort of situation? And could the caution affect her uni application?
Does anyone know what trading standards usually do in this sort of situation? And could the caution affect her uni application?
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A shop my mum used to be the manager of was setup by the police. They payed a 15 year to go into the shop an made her look a lot older so she looked bout 25 an one of the guy behind the counter served her then the police came in an it went to court. My mum lost her job an in the end it turned out that the police were wrong for setting the shop up.
Moloktis
A shop my mum used to be the manager of was setup by the police. They payed a 15 year to go into the shop an made her look a lot older so she looked bout 25 an one of the guy behind the counter served her then the police came in an it went to court. My mum lost her job an in the end it turned out that the police were wrong for setting the shop up.
That's similar to what happened to my friend. They came in with a girl who looked easily over 18, but wasn't, apparently, and stood at a safe distance while she served her.
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notts
i wouldnt be surprised if your friend got fired, but i doubt it will affect her uni application
We thought that she might get fired. But they haven't even suspended her, all they've done so far is make her cry and send her home
I know a few people who've been caught out by the "old looking young person trick". They can actually be fined up to £2000 for it, but that rarely happens, and certainly not the first time.
Fortunately, yeah. Most managers realise that no-one is completely infallible.
This happened to me at Asda the other day...I got asked for ID for alcohol (which is out of the ordinary) and so I asked the girl how old she thought I was...she said she thought about 23, but that the managers at Asda were scaremongering cashiers into thinking they should ID everyone who didn't have wrinkles!
I'm a barmaid so If I don't think that a person is 18 or over then I haveto ask for ID, If I didn't and they we're found to be underage then I would get Fired, However If trading standards got involved then I'm sure the whole place would get inspected and possily loose it's lisence or a caution!
NOTE: I've been working tonight so I may not make sense or have any relevence to the post! If so I apoligise
NOTE: I've been working tonight so I may not make sense or have any relevence to the post! If so I apoligise
Got ID'd in just about every pub last night. Since the new licencing laws apparently 5 or 6 pubs have been closed down in York!
We get told to ask for id from anyone who looks under 21. People get really arsey about it sometimes. But this girl did look pretty old. I'd say about 20. There are posters all over the place warning to ask for ID if they don't look 21 at our work
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It was an honest mistake cos she thought that she wasn't selling to someone under 18
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MNBStyle
Im sorry, but how can it be a honest mistake when you should always ask for id anyway???
It was an honest mistake cos she thought that she wasn't selling to someone under 18
I have to say, I've never been asked for ID in supermarkets. Partly this is because, in my home town, most of the assistants have either known me since I was little, or are old school-friends, and therefore know my age, but I fully expected to be ID'd at uni.
I don't even get ID'd in pubs and bars here... expect, ironically, the one time I forgot my ID
(got in anyways, with a warning not to forget it next time)
I don't even get ID'd in pubs and bars here... expect, ironically, the one time I forgot my ID
(got in anyways, with a warning not to forget it next time)dogtanian
This is why I think that shops that sell age resricted products should ID everyone who looks under thirty as a policy, and have big signs up everywhere saying as much. Maybe even just everyone..
It would product the innocent cashiers who become the scapegoats for this.
It would product the innocent cashiers who become the scapegoats for this.
I've often thought that that's the best way to do it. Then if anyone has a problem they can just say, "It's our policy, would you like to talk to my supervisor?". That would probably annoy the supervisors a bit. Oh well
MNBStyle
Even so, she still should of asked for id dont you think???
Im not knocking the girl im just saying, because if i was doing her job i wouldnt ask for id all the time.
Im not knocking the girl im just saying, because if i was doing her job i wouldnt ask for id all the time.
Yes, she should have asked for ID cos the girl she was serving didn't quite look 21, and we're told to ask for ID from anyone who looks younger than 21. But what i meant by "I think it was an honest mistake" is that she wasn't selling to a friend that she knew wasn't old enough, and she wasn't selling to anyone who she thought wasn't old enough. That for me qualifies it as a mistake, because she didn't knowingly sell it to someone under age.
But the thing is, it's quite subjective. I might have thought she looked 20, but she might have thought 21 or 22. It's quite easy to be fooled, especially with girls and wonders of make-up. Also, trading standards pick people who look old enough to buy alcohol, to go in an try to buy alcohol. If they look 17 then there's not much point, cos that'll catch no-one out.
jamlan
A friend of mine has been caught by trading standards for selling alcohol to an under 18. She doesn't make a habit of it, and it was an honest mistake. We both work in a supermarket that has a good record for this sort of thing, so i'd assume they wouldn't make an example of her. Apparently she's been cautioned. They say they could still take it to the courts, but it's difficult to say right now. She's planning to go to uni in September.
Does anyone know what trading standards usually do in this sort of situation? And could the caution affect her uni application?
Does anyone know what trading standards usually do in this sort of situation? And could the caution affect her uni application?
It's her own fault for not asking for ID - if she gets fired then she has no one to blame.
pratikv
It's her own fault for not asking for ID - if she gets fired then she has no one to blame.
That's nice, and it may well be the case. But do you happen to know the likelihood of her being taken to court? Or what usually happens in these circumstances? She isn't trying to find anyone to blame. To quote "I just feel really stupid, and i feel bad that i might have got others in trouble too" ie the manager. We're just a little worried about what's gonna hppen to her. I hope you understand
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