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(Original post by Joey_Johns)
If she has lived in a foreign country for a while it would explain things dont you think? Its not as though its a big deal anyway.
If she has lived in a foreign country for a while it would explain things dont you think? Its not as though its a big deal anyway.
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hehe, it has rather deviated...
hehe, it has rather deviated...
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(Original post by vienna95)
ive never evaded the question. where have u asked it before? im British and have never inferred otherwise.
ive never evaded the question. where have u asked it before? im British and have never inferred otherwise.
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im doing this topic for my french Alevel oral exam!!! its really good to find out other peroples arguements for and against, does anyone think it would work in England? (in non religious schools) despite the fact that we've never really tried to spearate religion and education from each other?
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(Original post by Emma18)
im doing this topic for my french Alevel oral exam!!! its really good to find out other peroples arguements for and against, does anyone think it would work in England? (in non religious schools) despite the fact that we've never really tried to spearate religion and education from each other?
im doing this topic for my french Alevel oral exam!!! its really good to find out other peroples arguements for and against, does anyone think it would work in England? (in non religious schools) despite the fact that we've never really tried to spearate religion and education from each other?
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(Original post by kildare)
True. But many members of the Muslim Council are as French as Chirac himself.
True. But many members of the Muslim Council are as French as Chirac himself.
There are different degrees of "Frenchness" you know. A 1st generation Algerian is NOT as French as someone who can trace his ansestry back to the Norman invasion.
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Do you think many members of the Muslim Council can trace back their roots in France over, what a 1000 years?......like Chirac probably can.
There are different degrees of "Frenchness" you know. A 1st generation Algerian is NOT as French as someone who can trace his ansestry back to the Norman invasion.
Do you think many members of the Muslim Council can trace back their roots in France over, what a 1000 years?......like Chirac probably can.
There are different degrees of "Frenchness" you know. A 1st generation Algerian is NOT as French as someone who can trace his ansestry back to the Norman invasion.
What a difference in attitude to say, Australia, where newly arrived immigrants are not seen as Italian, Turkish, Thai etc. but rather as 'new Australians' - and then not for long.
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(Original post by yawn1)
I actually agree with you that what I think (yes, I am British although I'm still not sure that you are) is irrelevant to the predicament that France finds itself in over this issure - although of course, I and my fellow countrymen plus many other nations in the world are appalled by the proposals.
I would suggest that as it has nothing to do with this country that we don't waste any more time in discussing the matter.
I actually agree with you that what I think (yes, I am British although I'm still not sure that you are) is irrelevant to the predicament that France finds itself in over this issure - although of course, I and my fellow countrymen plus many other nations in the world are appalled by the proposals.
I would suggest that as it has nothing to do with this country that we don't waste any more time in discussing the matter.
Apart from some of the contributors to this forum and the Islington dinner party set I think you'll find the remainder of your fellow countrymen are not appalled at all.
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(Original post by yawn1)
Perhaps because there are different degrees of 'Frenchness' is why they have the problems with this legislation in the first place.
What a difference in attitude to say, Australia, where newly arrived immigrants are not seen as Italian, Turkish, Thai etc. but rather as 'new Australians' - and then not for long.
Perhaps because there are different degrees of 'Frenchness' is why they have the problems with this legislation in the first place.
What a difference in attitude to say, Australia, where newly arrived immigrants are not seen as Italian, Turkish, Thai etc. but rather as 'new Australians' - and then not for long.
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"Appalled"? Bit of an overreaction isn't it?
Apart from some of the contributors to this forum and the Islington dinner party set I think you'll find the remainder of your fellow countrymen are not appalled at all.
"Appalled"? Bit of an overreaction isn't it?
Apart from some of the contributors to this forum and the Islington dinner party set I think you'll find the remainder of your fellow countrymen are not appalled at all.
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(Original post by yawn1)
No - our nation is renowned for its tolerance to all peoples
No - our nation is renowned for its tolerance to all peoples
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