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    I currently am planning to retake my first year at my Sixth form due to a total change in direction of careers, after previously wanting to do Dentistry, I released that despite getting 1 A*, 8 A's and 2 B's at GCSE, I haven't the ability -

    Music is a real passion of mine, I spend most evenings playing the guitar which I'm now working towards my Grade 6, and I've self taught myself piano, which I can play some rather hard pieces, which whilst took me a while, I've learned a great deal - Hard pieces such as: Clair De Lune, Arabesque No. 1 - Debussy I can both play at full speed etc (I love Debussy)

    I REALLY want to do Music at A-Level, but I don't know if I manage it without having no theory experience other than guitar lessons since the age of 7, but still nothing 100% theory based - I have the motivation to teach myself Theory up to Grade 5 over summer as apparently that's recommended, but still...

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    - Would it be possible to teach myself up to Grade 5 level theory over the summer?

    - Should I focus on one instrument such as my guitar, or also work on my piano?

    - Any other tips or information would be really appreciated from other peoples past experiences

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    I did Maths, Chemsitry, Biology and I.T this year

    My school also so Music Technology, but I don't think this'll be looked upon as well, such as I have the ability to learn, as I like to think my GCSE's show (I didn't really work hard for them aswell)

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    Many thanks, Jack
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    I did Music A-Level
    Firstly, if you are musical, theory isn't too hard, you just have to learn it!! A breadth of instruments is always good but at A-Level it doesn't matter if you stick to one instrument (my teacher in fact told us it was better because we could show a variety of technique and skills on one instrument...)

    Basically, you DO NOT need GCSE music!!! My A-Level music experience did not benefit from having taken GCSE!!!

    Hope that helps
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    One of my friends didn't do Music GCSE and enrolled into a specialist music college and does Music a-level alongside the sciences
    I think you'll be fine, you play instruments and everything...
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    I've just finished my music A level this year after resitting year12.
    I agree with 'thestudent55555' theory isn't that hard if your musical anyway.
    I suppose it depends on the type of course your doing but I'd say it might be better to just focus on your guitar and then you can have the help of your teacher for performance. And I honestly wouldn't worry to much about the grade 5 theory, someone from my year had neverdone any theory before and managed fine with the work
    You only use an odd few bits of vocab from gcse tbh anyway.
    good luck one what ever you decide and here to help next year if you need it
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    You don't need GCSE to do AS. You have the performance capabilities and you need some theory to back it up - you probably have most of that already from reading music and playing your instrument. Our college requires Gd 4 performance and Gd 4 Theory to let you do music (unless you can really impress the boss with one or the other). You need to get to Gd 5 (which you have already exceeded) by the time of your performance (about March/April) and you will need theory to do your composition and analysis.

    Bite the theory bullet and go for it.
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    who gave me a negative rating for that comment dont get why
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    (Original post by Nikki_mijo14)
    who gave me a negative rating for that comment dont get why
    Don't know but i've repped you to balance it out - there's a lot of spurious negging goming on.
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    ah thankyou x
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    I've just finished music AS in my A2 year after changing my plans, and i didn't do gcse music... the only catching up i had to do really was in music history, i.e. knowing the dates, composers and characteristics of the periods of music, but that can easily be caught up on and you'll do it if you interested enough to retake the year etc.
    I did grade 5 theory before i started and that does help because you there's a chords and lines section in the exam, so just brush up on that so you don't feel behind (even though you could catch up anyway, it's nice not to feel like you're drowning at the beginning!) and everything will be fine
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    (Original post by jackfarrer)
    I currently am planning to retake my first year at my Sixth form due to a total change in direction of careers, after previously wanting to do Dentistry, I released that despite getting 1 A*, 8 A's and 2 B's at GCSE, I haven't the ability -

    Music is a real passion of mine, I spend most evenings playing the guitar which I'm now working towards my Grade 6, and I've self taught myself piano, which I can play some rather hard pieces, which whilst took me a while, I've learned a great deal - Hard pieces such as: Clair De Lune, Arabesque No. 1 - Debussy I can both play at full speed etc (I love Debussy)

    I REALLY want to do Music at A-Level, but I don't know if I manage it without having no theory experience other than guitar lessons since the age of 7, but still nothing 100% theory based - I have the motivation to teach myself Theory up to Grade 5 over summer as apparently that's recommended, but still...

    -----------------------------------Basically-----------------------------------------

    - Would it be possible to teach myself up to Grade 5 level theory over the summer?

    - Should I focus on one instrument such as my guitar, or also work on my piano?

    - Any other tips or information would be really appreciated from other peoples past experiences

    ----------------------------------Additional Info-----------------------------------

    I did Maths, Chemsitry, Biology and I.T this year

    My school also so Music Technology, but I don't think this'll be looked upon as well, such as I have the ability to learn, as I like to think my GCSE's show (I didn't really work hard for them aswell)

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    Many thanks, Jack
    I'm not sure that you should really be looking at a career in music if you've been learning the guitar for 9 years (I am assuming you're 16 years old), playing every evening, and are still on Grade 6, and have not learnt any theory at all.

    Your piano, on the other hand, points in a different direction. If you've self-taught yourself Clair De Lune by Debussy (which I would estimate to be a Grade 7 piece going by ABRSM qualification standards), it's clear that you have considerable talent. Mix that with your drive and you may want to look to become a piano teacher (although there is a long road ahead) - I would recommend getting a teacher yourself first, to see how far you can go.

    - Would it be possible to teach myself up to Grade 5 level theory over the summer? : It's hard to tell if you haven't learnt any theory at all yet, but I learnt all of the theory from scratch on my own in a very short period of time and it really isn't all that difficult (up to Grade 5). Nonetheless, if you want to get a career in music you will need to go up to Grade 8 at least.

    - Should I focus on one instrument such as my guitar, or also work on my piano?: At least according to what you've told me, I would recommend dropping the guitar, getting a piano teacher and playing primarily on the piano.

    - Any other tips or information would be really appreciated from other peoples past experiences: Not having done GCSE will really not affect you if you're very good at musical performance, but you ought to get well ahead of Grade 6 before the A-Level.
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    (Original post by jackfarrer)
    My school also so Music Technology, but I don't think this'll be looked upon as well, such as I have the ability to learn, as I like to think my GCSE's show (I didn't really work hard for them aswell)

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    Many thanks, Jack
    You're quite right that unfortunately Music technology still has not gained much respect as an academic subject. (I asked the question in Cambridge recently and the guy actually chuckled a little :mad:)

    However, in a non-scientific, strictly anecdotal poll of my past students; those who did strictly conventional music (Royal Northern, Royal Welsh etc.) are now scrabbling around for peripatetic teaching jobs or are working in other fields altogether, those who did just Music Tech... have not answered the survey; but of those who did both, three are now working in film/TV music and six are working in recording studios - two of them own their own studio between them.

    Make of it what you will.
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    I'm not sure that you should really be looking at a career in music if you've been learning the guitar for 9 years (I am assuming you're 16 years old), playing every evening, and are still on Grade 6, and have not learnt any theory at all.

    Your piano, on the other hand, points in a different direction. If you've self-taught yourself Clair De Lune by Debussy (which I would estimate to be a Grade 7 piece going by ABRSM qualification standards), it's clear that you have considerable talent. Mix that with your drive and you may want to look to become a piano teacher (although there is a long road ahead) - I would recommend getting a teacher yourself first, to see how far you can go.

    - Would it be possible to teach myself up to Grade 5 level theory over the summer? : It's hard to tell if you haven't learnt any theory at all yet, but I learnt all of the theory from scratch on my own in a very short period of time and it really isn't all that difficult (up to Grade 5). Nonetheless, if you want to get a career in music you will need to go up to Grade 8 at least.

    - Should I focus on one instrument such as my guitar, or also work on my piano?: At least according to what you've told me, I would recommend dropping the guitar, getting a piano teacher and playing primarily on the piano.

    - Any other tips or information would be really appreciated from other peoples past experiences: Not having done GCSE will really not affect you if you're very good at musical performance, but you ought to get well ahead of Grade 6 before the A-Level.
    - Hiya, as your points are contrary to the others users, I'd thought I'd reply, with some further information to see whether you know something the others don't on this thread, or whether you simply misunderstand my situation

    - "I'm not sure that you should really be looking at a career in music if you've been learning the guitar for 9 years (I am assuming you're 16 years old), playing every evening, and are still on Grade 6, and have not learnt any theory at all."

    I understand what you mean here, I am 17 now, but haven't done grades since I was 15, as whilst I haven't stopped playing, I've just not gone for exams, I did Cavatina by Stanley Myers and Canco del Lladre which I recommend you take a look at, it's a lovely piece Plus I have done some theory, obviously I've had to do musical knowledge for every piece so I know dynamics, particular styles of music, and due to my keen interest in music I've got some knowledge of certain styles of music in history

    - "Your piano, on the other hand, points in a different direction. If you've self-taught yourself Clair De Lune by Debussy (which I would estimate to be a Grade 7 piece going by ABRSM qualification standards), it's clear that you have considerable talent. Mix that with your drive and you may want to look to become a piano teacher (although there is a long road ahead) - I would recommend getting a teacher yourself first, to see how far you can go."

    This would appear the case, but I simply believe that despite the ability I may appear to have on the piano, my overall ability lacks, as in with the Guitar I could be given a piece and learn it in a night, the piano is simply down to patience I think.

    I don't know if this is impressions, as it probably is, and probably due to your strong feedback, you obviously have experience in this field - I don't really aim to go into music, it's simply a passion of mine, I'm considering being a high school music teacher, as in a subject music teacher, rather than instruments individually - If you have any knowledge on this, please do let me know, thank you - I await your feedback
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    (Original post by jackfarrer)
    - Hiya, as your points are contrary to the others users, I'd thought I'd reply, with some further information to see whether you know something the others don't on this thread, or whether you simply misunderstand my situation

    - "I'm not sure that you should really be looking at a career in music if you've been learning the guitar for 9 years (I am assuming you're 16 years old), playing every evening, and are still on Grade 6, and have not learnt any theory at all."

    I understand what you mean here, I am 17 now, but haven't done grades since I was 15, as whilst I haven't stopped playing, I've just not gone for exams, I did Cavatina by Stanley Myers and Canco del Lladre which I recommend you take a look at, it's a lovely piece Plus I have done some theory, obviously I've had to do musical knowledge for every piece so I know dynamics, particular styles of music, and due to my keen interest in music I've got some knowledge of certain styles of music in history

    - "Your piano, on the other hand, points in a different direction. If you've self-taught yourself Clair De Lune by Debussy (which I would estimate to be a Grade 7 piece going by ABRSM qualification standards), it's clear that you have considerable talent. Mix that with your drive and you may want to look to become a piano teacher (although there is a long road ahead) - I would recommend getting a teacher yourself first, to see how far you can go."

    This would appear the case, but I simply believe that despite the ability I may appear to have on the piano, my overall ability lacks, as in with the Guitar I could be given a piece and learn it in a night, the piano is simply down to patience I think.

    I don't know if this is impressions, as it probably is, and probably due to your strong feedback, you obviously have experience in this field - I don't really aim to go into music, it's simply a passion of mine, I'm considering being a high school music teacher, as in a subject music teacher, rather than instruments individually - If you have any knowledge on this, please do let me know, thank you - I await your feedback
    I understand what you mean here, I am 17 now, but haven't done grades since I was 15, as whilst I haven't stopped playing, I've just not gone for exams, I did Cavatina by Stanley Myers and Canco del Lladre which I recommend you take a look at, it's a lovely piece Plus I have done some theory, obviously I've had to do musical knowledge for every piece so I know dynamics, particular styles of music, and due to my keen interest in music I've got some knowledge of certain styles of music in history

    Sorry, clearly I misunderstood your background as regards the guitar. However, when you say that you haven't stopped playing, the question is: have you only continued to play at the Grade 6 level, or have you continued to improve (as you did until you were 15, since you were going up in grades) but simply not taken the exams? If you've continued to improve, you should be at or close to Grade 8 standard by now, in which case you will hardly have a problem with performance at A-Level (AS or A2). If you've stayed at the Grade 6 standard, you should work hard to pull yourself up to at least Grade 7 if not Grade 8 by the time of your first AS performance - from what you sound like, I would guess that this would be possible to do, but it would require considerable work.

    As for your knowledge of theory, you really do need to learn it from an exam board (I would recommend ABRSM) up to Grade 5 to equip you for the things you need to do at A-Level. In addition to that, take a look at the specification for your board and see what specialist knowledge you will need (e.g. about past composers, history, etc.) and get a bit of a head start on that.

    This would appear the case, but I simply believe that despite the ability I may appear to have on the piano, my overall ability lacks, as in with the Guitar I could be given a piece and learn it in a night, the piano is simply down to patience I think.

    I'm not sure what the problem is here. If you're capable of picking up difficult piano peices and learning them, that's all you need for an A-Level. In any case, I can't give a better diagnosis without watching you play myself. That said, if you really don't think your piano can be as good as your guitar, then it's fine to stick to the guitar. At A-Level, I don't think it really makes a difference.

    I don't know if this is impressions, as it probably is, and probably due to your strong feedback, you obviously have experience in this field - I don't really aim to go into music, it's simply a passion of mine, I'm considering being a high school music teacher, as in a subject music teacher, rather than instruments individually - If you have any knowledge on this, please do let me know, thank you - I await your feedback

    You would still need considerable knowledge to be a high school music teacher; you would need to be able to play one instrument (the major recommended one being the piano, in my opinion) to around a Diploma standard (because you would regularly get students at or above Grade 8 and you would have to be able to teach them). You would also need Grade 8 theory (as theory is, as far as I know, the main part of the job for the non-specialist teachers). But if you really want to go into musical teaching as a career, these things shouldn't be a problem - I would focus on making sure your theory and performance skills are up to A-Level scratch, as that is the pressing problem for you at the moment.
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    Hi guys just wandering if I can do computing for a - level if I haven't done it for gcse?
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    It would be possibly if you really worked but you REALLY NEED THE THEORY have you done any composition???
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    It would be possibly if you really worked but you REALLY NEED THE THEORY have you done any composition???
    This is a really old thread so I'm going to close it. But thanks for the reply
 
 
 
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