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Why do people HATE JEWS?
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#21
(Original post by jammyd)
I agree with this. Personally, the issue is more Israel than Judaism.
I agree with this. Personally, the issue is more Israel than Judaism.
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#22
(Original post by jammyd)
I agree with this. Personally, the issue is more Israel than Judaism.
I agree with this. Personally, the issue is more Israel than Judaism.
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#23
(Original post by Saf!)
gud point..............personally i don't hate all jews
gud point..............personally i don't hate all jews
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(Original post by Saf!)
i don't understand either.........but i know a lot of ppl who hate jews bacause of wots happening in israel now
i don't understand either.........but i know a lot of ppl who hate jews bacause of wots happening in israel now
Does it beat what happened in Indonesia where Timorans have been buthered for religious reasons?
Does it beat whats happening in Africa where religious minorities are being wiped out?
How about what the Chinese did with the Tibetans?
Why are jews being singled out? Its not just Palestine. Its age-old religous hatred me thinks.
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#25
Hating of all Jews... that's what I hate about antisemitism.
Firstly, it's entirely religious. Anybody who takes religion seriously enough to consider killing another person because of it should be shot. That's my view anyway.
Secondly, it's pointless. I haven't seen a single antisemitist argument that has been valid or even remotely respectable. In fact, I haven't really seen a reason for antisemitism.
Thirdly, it's stupid generalisation. It targets every Jew... from the Israeli religious extremists all the way to the totally innocent Jewish school kid.
Please, if there are any antisemitists on here, what is the point?
Firstly, it's entirely religious. Anybody who takes religion seriously enough to consider killing another person because of it should be shot. That's my view anyway.
Secondly, it's pointless. I haven't seen a single antisemitist argument that has been valid or even remotely respectable. In fact, I haven't really seen a reason for antisemitism.
Thirdly, it's stupid generalisation. It targets every Jew... from the Israeli religious extremists all the way to the totally innocent Jewish school kid.
Please, if there are any antisemitists on here, what is the point?
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#26
(Original post by Frances)
I think that the problem is that some people just can't seperate the actions of some members of a religion and the religion as a whole. It's not just Jews who have to deal with that, but Muslims and Christians too.
I think that the problem is that some people just can't seperate the actions of some members of a religion and the religion as a whole. It's not just Jews who have to deal with that, but Muslims and Christians too.
Ben Gurion: "We must ensure all anti-zionism is seen as anti-semitism"
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#27
(Original post by Frances)
I don't hate any Jews... although I think that Arial (Ariel?) Sharon is a bit of an idiot.
I don't hate any Jews... although I think that Arial (Ariel?) Sharon is a bit of an idiot.
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#28
(Original post by llama boy)
And that some members of said groups actively and deceitfully attempt to conflate the concepts.
Ben Gurion: "We must ensure all anti-zionism is seem as anti-semitism"
And that some members of said groups actively and deceitfully attempt to conflate the concepts.
Ben Gurion: "We must ensure all anti-zionism is seem as anti-semitism"
I think people can disagree with Israel without being anti-semitist at all.
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#29
(Original post by thefish_uk)
Hating of all Jews... that's what I hate about antisemitism.
Firstly, it's entirely religious.
Hating of all Jews... that's what I hate about antisemitism.
Firstly, it's entirely religious.
Hitler believed that the race of the Jews must be destroyed, regardless of religion. He openly mocked discrimination on religious grounds...
For the Jew was still characterised for me by nothing but his religion, and therefore, on grounds of human tolerance, I maintained my rejection of religious attacks in this case as in others. Consequently, the tone, particularly that of the Viennese anti-Semitic press, seemed to me unworthy of the cultured tradition of a great nation’
(Adolf Hitler, Mein Kampf)
(Adolf Hitler, Mein Kampf)
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#30
(Original post by DoctorNO)
Why are jews being singled out? Its not just Palestine. Its age-old religous hatred me thinks.
Why are jews being singled out? Its not just Palestine. Its age-old religous hatred me thinks.
Most states adhere to the Machiavellian ideology of the state coming before religion. That might just be Christianity though, i'm not sure.
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#31
(Original post by thefish_uk)
WHAT!?
I think people can disagree with Israel without being anti-semitist at all.
WHAT!?
I think people can disagree with Israel without being anti-semitist at all.
It doesn't stop there being a concerted campaign to blur that distinction.
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#32
(Original post by llama boy)
Ben Gurion: "We must ensure all anti-zionism is seem as anti-semitism"
Ben Gurion: "We must ensure all anti-zionism is seem as anti-semitism"
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#33
(Original post by llama boy)
This could not be more wrong.
Hitler believed that the race of the Jews must be destroyed, regardless of religion. He openly mocked discrimination on religious grounds...
This could not be more wrong.
Hitler believed that the race of the Jews must be destroyed, regardless of religion. He openly mocked discrimination on religious grounds...
But still... there are Jews who inherit being a Jew, like a race, and Jews who convert.
My other points still stand, right?
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#34
(Original post by thefish_uk)
Okay, I'm sorry.
But still... there are Jews who inherit being a Jew, like a race, and Jews who convert.
My other points still stand, right?
Okay, I'm sorry.
But still... there are Jews who inherit being a Jew, like a race, and Jews who convert.
My other points still stand, right?
Your latter statement is true, the term itself is unclear.
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#35
I think the main reason many people dislike i wouldnt use the word hate jews (this is a generalisation) is because in the case of Israel and Palistine the Jews seem to dwell on the fact they were treated horrifically during the holocaust years and they use it as an excuse to treat palistinians so horrifically....i know this is a socially sensitive and one may say taboo topic but i thought i would give it a try! 
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#36
(Original post by Nafisa)
I think the main reason many people dislike i wouldnt use the word hate jews (this is a generalisation) is because in the case of Israel and Palistine the Jews seem to dwell on the fact they were treated horrifically during the holocaust years and they use it as an excuse to treat palistinians so horrifically....i know this is a socially sensitive and one may say taboo topic but i thought i would give it a try!
I think the main reason many people dislike i wouldnt use the word hate jews (this is a generalisation) is because in the case of Israel and Palistine the Jews seem to dwell on the fact they were treated horrifically during the holocaust years and they use it as an excuse to treat palistinians so horrifically....i know this is a socially sensitive and one may say taboo topic but i thought i would give it a try!
Imagine the Holocaust never happened would there have been the mass migration to Israel/Palestine and thus the start of a conflict?
Precisely. There wouldn't. So it's all Hitler's fault.
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#37
(Original post by thefish_uk)
Ah, there's a whole thread about it. Maybe they use the Holocaust to try and get sympathy and support.
Imagine the Holocaust never happened would there have been the mass migration to Israel/Palestine and thus the start of a conflict?
Precisely. There wouldn't. So it's all Hitler's fault.
Ah, there's a whole thread about it. Maybe they use the Holocaust to try and get sympathy and support.
Imagine the Holocaust never happened would there have been the mass migration to Israel/Palestine and thus the start of a conflict?
Precisely. There wouldn't. So it's all Hitler's fault.
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#38
(Original post by Nafisa)
dont forget americas either....there cant be a disaster without the us being involved...come on!!!
dont forget americas either....there cant be a disaster without the us being involved...come on!!!
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#39
(Original post by thefish_uk)
Of course. They get involved in everything. Today we looked in History at how they declared themselves the world's international police force immediately after WWII.
Of course. They get involved in everything. Today we looked in History at how they declared themselves the world's international police force immediately after WWII.
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#40
(Original post by Nafisa)
I think the main reason many people dislike i wouldnt use the word hate jews (this is a generalisation) is because in the case of Israel and Palistine the Jews seem to dwell on the fact they were treated horrifically during the holocaust years and they use it as an excuse to treat palistinians so horrifically....i know this is a socially sensitive and one may say taboo topic but i thought i would give it a try!
I think the main reason many people dislike i wouldnt use the word hate jews (this is a generalisation) is because in the case of Israel and Palistine the Jews seem to dwell on the fact they were treated horrifically during the holocaust years and they use it as an excuse to treat palistinians so horrifically....i know this is a socially sensitive and one may say taboo topic but i thought i would give it a try!
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