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Hi,
I am currently studding Maths, Further Maths, Physics and Business Studies finishing my first year at A level.
In GCSE, i got 5 A* (Maths and Science inc), 5 A's and a B (in PE lol)
I am seriously considering dropping Further maths, providing when i recieve my results in August i have achieved an A in maths (did the whole A level in one year)

Would it be better to continue the Further Maths be it just at AS, i am just concerned that it may affect the chance of me getting an A in physics, and therefore affect the chance of me getting into southampton (1st pick uni i think)who have great links with F1 teams which would be my "dream job".
Do you think i would cope based on my record so far, its just i imagine the second year will get so much harder with FP2, FP3 and M3!

Lastly really confused if i should do Aeronautical/Automotive/Mechanical Engineering, i would love to get involved in the automotive industry, particularly F1 and the preffered course for an F1 job is Aeronautical Engineering, but as these jobs are hard to come by if i dont make it into F1 i dont really know what i would do with that degree, as i most probably wouldnt want to design planes, so i would likely end up doing something related to business/finance in the city which is not what i would particularly enjoy doing!?

I'm so confused, as you can probably tell so any advice or help people can offer would be highly appreciated!

Thanks in advance, and sorry for the long post!
Original post by DrMute
Hi,
I am currently studding Maths, Further Maths, Physics and Business Studies finishing my first year at A level.
In GCSE, i got 5 A* (Maths and Science inc), 5 A's and a B (in PE lol)
I am seriously considering dropping Further maths, providing when i recieve my results in August i have achieved an A in maths (did the whole A level in one year)

Would it be better to continue the Further Maths be it just at AS, i am just concerned that it may affect the chance of me getting an A in physics, and therefore affect the chance of me getting into southampton (1st pick uni i think)who have great links with F1 teams which would be my "dream job".
Do you think i would cope based on my record so far, its just i imagine the second year will get so much harder with FP2, FP3 and M3!

Lastly really confused if i should do Aeronautical/Automotive/Mechanical Engineering, i would love to get involved in the automotive industry, particularly F1 and the preffered course for an F1 job is Aeronautical Engineering, but as these jobs are hard to come by if i dont make it into F1 i dont really know what i would do with that degree, as i most probably wouldnt want to design planes, so i would likely end up doing something related to business/finance in the city which is not what i would particularly enjoy doing!?

I'm so confused, as you can probably tell so any advice or help people can offer would be highly appreciated!

Thanks in advance, and sorry for the long post!



Although full A level in Further Maths is desired by most engineering schools, especially the top ones, having an AS level in it is already a good indicator of your capability.

Not sure why don't you drop business studies? Having 3 mathematical subjects is easier because you don't have to switch your brain into different areas during revision.


Automotive engineering is very specialized, Aero or Mech leaves you more doors open. Mech. engineering and Aero. engineering are essentially the same thing except Aero. has to do more with aerodynamics and Mech. with inside bits.


From Imperial statistics, they have more Aero engineers who joined F1 than Mech. engineers.
Reply 2
Original post by DrMute
Hi,
I am currently studding Maths, Further Maths, Physics and Business Studies finishing my first year at A level....................................


I think you are the only one who can answer the questions yourself.
But to help you decide i think you should look into the syllabus and the course for further maths, aeronautical and mech eng.

https://workspace.imperial.ac.uk/college/Public/pdfs/ugsyllabus/UG_syllab_Aeronautics_09-10.pdf

https://workspace.imperial.ac.uk/college/Public/pdfs/ugsyllabus/UG_syllab_MechEng_09-10.pdf

http://www.schoolworkout.co.uk/a_level.htm

here look at the fp3. and if you want to look at the fp2 stuff. PM me. (My school does OCR so I only have OCR stuff.)

Personally, I find FP3 quite challenging but I think I'll still get a respectable grade.
FP2 just a slightly hard version of C3 and C4.

For me, mech eng has a more diverse job prospect (ie banking, energy, oil), not saying you cant with aero eng. If you choose mech eng over aero eng, i wouldnt say you will be disadvantaged in anyway in the forumla one industry. alot of mech eng students work for F1 teams.

and hope you are resitting to get your A* in maths.

Hope this helps to make up your mind. but really wait for your result before making you mind up.

this is a quote for you :P
The greater danger for most of us lies not in setting our aim too high and falling short; but in setting our aim too low and achieving our mark.

Good luck what ever you do. :smile:
Reply 3
At the moment, no Southampton Engineering course requires Further Maths, although it would be an advantage. In semester 1 you basically go over the entire further maths A level anyway, so it just really effects how much work you're going to be doing for the first year.

If you think that taking further maths is going to make it harder for you to get good grades in you're other subjects then i'd think aboout drpping it. AAA is more useful than ABBB or AABC.

That said, further maths AS is very easy and useful for engineering. FP1 is a lot easier than FP2 and 3 and if you want an easy module then try and take D2 - it's pretty much useless but worryingly easy. If you don't think you can manage an AS then maybe just try and take one or two mechanics modules on the side, to show that you're interested in you're subject.

As to which kind of engineering you should do, Aerospace engineering teaches you aerodynamics, parts of mechanical engineering, electronics, programming etc. If you're more interested in the overall design and shape of the car then maybe look at doing Aero. If you're interested in the engine and all the little moving parts then maybe mechanical would be better. I have the impression that Automotive engineering is somewhere in between and specifically focused on cars.

Southampton does courses in Mechanical Engineering with Aerospace engineering and Mechanical Engineering with Automotive engineering, and I think that you can switch your specialisation up until the end of year 2.

Good luck :smile:
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Reply 4
I would just like to say thanks for your help guys, and the reason for me wanting to continue business studies is that i am confident i can get an A in it without doing too much work so its a safe bet if you like to mkae sure i get 3 A's as I'm not confident i will be able to get an A in Further Maths, hoping for a B :frown:
And thats good news babyMilo lol at the name :smile: that Mech. Engineers still have a chance of getting into F1, i was under the impression that they prioritised Aero engineers and as its becoming a more popular course i thought they wouldnt need to employ as many Mech engineers as it isnt the preffered degree.
BTW are you currently studding engineering, and if so at what uni?

Do people think Aero Eng will be harder than Mech eng, i dont know why but that is the impression i have!?
Reply 5
Original post by DrMute
I would just like to say thanks for your help guys, and the reason for me wanting to continue business studies is that i am confident i can get an A in it without doing too much work so its a safe bet if you like to mkae sure i get 3 A's as I'm not confident i will be able to get an A in Further Maths, hoping for a B :frown:
And thats good news babyMilo lol at the name :smile: that Mech. Engineers still have a chance of getting into F1, i was under the impression that they prioritised Aero engineers and as its becoming a more popular course i thought they wouldnt need to employ as many Mech engineers as it isnt the preffered degree.
BTW are you currently studding engineering, and if so at what uni?

Do people think Aero Eng will be harder than Mech eng, i dont know why but that is the impression i have!?


Same I am going to be studying MEchanical engineering because its allows me to go down a variety of avenues and I have heard Aero is insanely hard!!
Original post by chira07
At the moment, no Southampton Engineering course requires Further Maths, although it would be an advantage. In semester 1 you basically go over the entire further maths A level anyway, so it just really effects how much work you're going to be doing for the first year.

If you think that taking further maths is going to make it harder for you to get good grades in you're other subjects then i'd think aboout drpping it. AAA is more useful than ABBB or AABC.

That said, further maths AS is very easy and useful for engineering. FP1 is a lot easier than FP2 and 3 and if you want an easy module then try and take D2 - it's pretty much useless but worryingly easy. If you don't think you can manage an AS then maybe just try and take one or two mechanics modules on the side, to show that you're interested in you're subject.

As to which kind of engineering you should do, Aerospace engineering teaches you aerodynamics, parts of mechanical engineering, electronics, programming etc. If you're more interested in the overall design and shape of the car then maybe look at doing Aero. If you're interested in the engine and all the little moving parts then maybe mechanical would be better. I have the impression that Automotive engineering is somewhere in between and specifically focused on cars.

Southampton does courses in Mechanical Engineering with Aerospace engineering and Mechanical Engineering with Automotive engineering, and I think that you can switch your specialisation up until the end of year 2.

Good luck :smile:


thanks!!! well said :smile:
Reply 7
Original post by chira07
At the moment, no Southampton Engineering course requires Further Maths, although it would be an advantage. In semester 1 you basically go over the entire further maths A level anyway, so it just really effects how much work you're going to be doing for the first year.

If you think that taking further maths is going to make it harder for you to get good grades in you're other subjects then i'd think aboout drpping it. AAA is more useful than ABBB or AABC.

That said, further maths AS is very easy and useful for engineering. FP1 is a lot easier than FP2 and 3 and if you want an easy module then try and take D2 - it's pretty much useless but worryingly easy. If you don't think you can manage an AS then maybe just try and take one or two mechanics modules on the side, to show that you're interested in you're subject.

As to which kind of engineering you should do, Aerospace engineering teaches you aerodynamics, parts of mechanical engineering, electronics, programming etc. If you're more interested in the overall design and shape of the car then maybe look at doing Aero. If you're interested in the engine and all the little moving parts then maybe mechanical would be better. I have the impression that Automotive engineering is somewhere in between and specifically focused on cars.

Southampton does courses in Mechanical Engineering with Aerospace engineering and Mechanical Engineering with Automotive engineering, and I think that you can switch your specialisation up until the end of year 2.

Good luck :smile:


Thanks, some good points there, i think i have decided to continue with the Further Maths now, reason being we have already been taught the whole of M2, and most of FP1, and it seems that it really helps with the first year :smile:

Also I am dont really know what i would be more interested in as i have never had the chance to learn about either yet, with the first years similar for Mech and Aeronauticle/Aerospace Eng i can always switch once i have learnt more about it which is good to know!!

Also do people think Aeronauticle Eng will be harder than Mechanicle Eng?

Thanks For you help everyone!!! :smile:

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