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Reply 1
Your talking ****

But if all else fails just keep saying to yourself

I must not fear, fear is the mind killer, fear is little death that bring total oblivion
I must not fear, fear is the mind killer, fear is little death that bring total oblivion
I must not fear, fear is the mind killer, fear is little death that bring total oblivion
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saturn
Ive had anxiety for years and blacked out cause of it a few times in the past (cowardly I know lol) but im wondering is it actually possible to ignore fear and not care what happens or is it useless aiming to have this attitude? I just wanna be a 'tough' guy who doesn't care what happens. By tough I mean no fear :confused:

Or am I talking ****?


Hi Saturn.

Personally, I think fear is an emotion that you cannot change. Much like love or anger, you may be able to suppress it for a while or perhaps become less fearful of things, but I don't think it's possible for it to ever go away. x
Reply 3
saturn
Ive had anxiety for years and blacked out cause of it a few times in the past (cowardly I know lol) but im wondering is it actually possible to ignore fear and not care what happens or is it useless aiming to have this attitude? I just wanna be a 'tough' guy who doesn't care what happens. By tough I mean no fear :confused:

Or am I talking ****?

No its not possible to be 100% Fearless, if your looking to control or improve your anxiety then its best to either seek counselling,
or just purely question what your anxious about and find a more reallistic positive answer.
This is what makes some people tough, because they know how to control there anxiety effectively.

P.S dont forget, when you see these guys acting tough in the streets, there not really tough, infact there the ones hiding there fear and just despereatley wanting to cause trouble to make them feel tough.
Reply 4
I think there is a condition where you can actually be fearless, but that might just be tabloid newspapers warping my mind. Other than that, everyone's bound to be scared of something or another.

Fear's not really a bad thing, it's a safety harness. Nothing wrong with being mindful and sensible. Try not to worry about being (perceived as) "tough".
Reply 5
Its just there are people with anxiety/panic disorders like me who have councelling/worry about it all their life and there are others who you couldn't possibly imagine to have anxiety who just get on with things. I want to be the latter but is this possible after having anxiety and fainting for 2 years (im mainly anxious about fainting)? If I suddenly change my attitude now to the attitude that people who dont get anxious have, will it go away?

Btw what attitude do non anxious folk have lol?
Reply 6
saturn
Its just there are people with anxiety/panic disorders like me who have councelling/worry about it all their life and there are others who you couldn't possibly imagine to have anxiety who just get on with things. I want to be the latter but is this possible after having anxiety and fainting for 2 years (im mainly anxious about fainting)? If I suddenly change my attitude now to the attitude that people who dont get anxious have, will it go away?

Btw what attitude do non anxious folk have lol?

I think CBT would be good for you, go and see your doctor about it, because your currently stuck in the vicious cycle of thought that CBT would deal with very well.
By the way CBT means cognitive-behavioral therapy incase you dont know, dont worry its not as daunting as the name may seem its just like counselling really.
Reply 7
MNBStyle
I think CBT would be good for you, go and see your doctor about it, because your currently stuck in the vicious cycle of thought that CBT would deal with very well.
By the way CBT means cognitive-behavioral therapy incase you dont know, dont worry its not as daunting as the name may seem its just like counselling really.


Ok thanks, the thing is I have learned to control the anxiety to some extent by positive thinking ie 'it'l go away', 'its not reality only a feeling' etc but I can't stop it from starting in the first place and being mild so I can't see CBT as being much use..maybe im wrong? Ive been offered antidepressents but I can't be bothered with all the worry of side effects and weaning off them.
Reply 8
saturn
so I can't see CBT as being much use..maybe im wrong? Ive been offered antidepressents but I can't be bothered with all the worry of side effects and weaning off them.

Well CBT worked for me, and i was in a similar position to you along with not wanting to take tablets due to side effects
Reply 9
MNBStyle
Well CBT worked for me, and i was in a similar position to you along with not wanting to take tablets due to side effects


Glad to hear it worked :smile: How long did you have anxiety for? Has it more or less gone now? Sorry you don't have to answer :redface: :cool:
Reply 10
saturn
Glad to hear it worked :smile: How long did you have anxiety for? Has it more or less gone now? Sorry you don't have to answer :redface: :cool:

I had Anxiety for about 2 years, it has pretty much gone now but of course i still get anxiety issues from time to time, but the CBT did help very much indeed
Reply 11
MNBStyle
I had Anxiety for about 2 years, it has pretty much gone now but of course i still get anxiety issues from time to time, but the CBT did help very much indeed


Cool, I might as well give it a try, thanks :smile:
Reply 12
saturn
Cool, I might as well give it a try, thanks :smile:

Anytime, and good luck
Reply 13
saturn
Ive had anxiety for years and blacked out cause of it a few times in the past (cowardly I know lol) but im wondering is it actually possible to ignore fear and not care what happens or is it useless aiming to have this attitude? I just wanna be a 'tough' guy who doesn't care what happens. By tough I mean no fear :confused:

Or am I talking ****?


Fear is an emotion like any other, Thus it can be suppressed. After being at welbeck dsfc (army officer college) for a 1.5 years and then getting kicked i have found that it is rare to feel fear at all. The only thing i can suggest is to confront your fear. Just GO FOR IT!!

I dont think that drugs are the answer as they just f*** up your brain!

BTW what types of fear are you talking about?
Fear is good, as it is fear that lets us know that we are alive. Fear is the body's way of saying "I'm alive, and I want to stay this way." It can however, be ignored. Supressing any emotion is never a good idea, or taking drugs of any kind in my opinion.

I will not say the old **** about "there's nothing to fear but fear it self" cos I suffer from some messed up version of vertigo, and I hate the living c**p out of spiders. I will however say that a great way to get around your fears, is to take up extreme sports.

I am a snowboarder, have been for quite a while now, and I have found that almost all the fears I had from before have gone. The pure adrenaline of living on the edge for those few minutes is enough to make you realise that there is a hell of a lot to live for, but fear just gets in the way. I was aracnaphobic, but snowboarding made me realise that it was just a phobia getting in the way of my life. I still hate them and can't have them on me, but I don't instantly climb on the nearest thing to me when I see one.

My vertigo still exists, but I don't suffer from it when I'm on my snowboard, which is why it is a messed up version. I can be 200 feet off the ground and be fine (as well as you can be on that big a drop) but without it I'd be ****ing myself big time.



In short, find something that pushes you to the edge, do it, then take another look at your fears and you will think "why were they so bad?". It isn't just me it worked on, but loads of my mates too.



If that doesn't work, Neuro Linguistic Programming is always a good one. Basically a type of hypnosis that Paul McKenna uses a bit and can be used to erase the memory of fears and phobias. A mate who was afraid of textiles had that done a while ago, and he was fine. Luckily he forgot why he was afraid of them in the first place too.
saturn
Ive had anxiety for years and blacked out cause of it a few times in the past (cowardly I know lol) but im wondering is it actually possible to ignore fear and not care what happens or is it useless aiming to have this attitude? I just wanna be a 'tough' guy who doesn't care what happens. By tough I mean no fear :confused:

Or am I talking ****?




If I ever start to worry about something, I ask myself two questions.


1. Is there any chance this will cause me to goto prison
2. Will It kill me (in a short space of time)

and if the above to answers are no, then whats the point in worrying about it? what is the worst that can happen?

If it wont make you goto prison, or kill you, theres no point worrying about it.
Reply 16
Bob123
Fear is an emotion like any other, Thus it can be suppressed. After being at welbeck dsfc (army officer college) for a 1.5 years and then getting kicked i have found that it is rare to feel fear at all. The only thing i can suggest is to confront your fear. Just GO FOR IT!!

I dont think that drugs are the answer as they just f*** up your brain!

BTW what types of fear are you talking about?


anxiety disorder and fear of fainting. With fainting its not the actual embarrasment the experience just scares the hell out of me!!
Reply 17
fear is something instilled into you. everyone at sometime feared something, i mean i still hate walking down dark alleys at night in case i get jumped :redface: the thing is everyone fears different things. it is unnatural not to. and anyone who says that they do not fera anything are liars :motz: