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Reply 40

Kittennffc

I read something ages ago saying that they use brick dust, ant powder, talcum powder, and all sorts of highly toxic things in it :frown:

I watched a friend of mine snort a line of sugar just because he was bored. It was disgusting - didn't make him high, but still disgusting.

Reply 41

ApeXaviour

7

Coke is usually only cut with baking soda (sometimes some talc too). It's not like E, hash or speed in this regard as it's such a fine (when cut, it's a crumbly block when pure) white white powder you could easily tell if it'd been contaminated with other things. So not too much chance of rat poison or brick dust in this specific case.

Anonymous

so if u did it once... just a little bit u wudnt die or anything?

Barring a heart defect or allergic reaction. No, you wouldn't die.

Anonymous

like when u rub it on ur gums does it actually do anything or do u have to snort it?

Snorting is far more effective. Rubbing it into your gums does produce a minor effect. You'd notice a tingly sensation and then your gums going quite numb (you could cut them and not notice). It's usually done with the end bits thats too little to snort but it sticks to your fingers.

Rubbing the last grains into your gums is kinda pathetic IMO. It's like a junkie trying to get any type of last little hit from what's left. At least smokers rarely smoke their cigarrette down to the butt..

Anonymous

in a way i kinda think if i WAS gonna give him an ultimatum i shud at least see what it does b4 nagging about it! (dont start shouting at me coz im 99% not gonna do it)

I'd discourage you to try it solely on it's effects. And because if you find it good, you'll be psychologically addicted for the rest of your life. At 40 thinking: "this office christmas party would be so much better if I had some white".

Reply 42

34253

2

The trouble with weed is that it will stop having an effect if you do it enough and will just lead onto other drugs that are far harder!

Reply 43

dede

11

Elipsis

The trouble with weed is that it will stop having an effect if you do it enough and will just lead onto other drugs that are far harder!

hehe ... the thing under your name ("ring my banana phone") sounds kinky.

and I agree about weed. Question: what is the punishment for possession of marijuana in England?

Reply 44

34253

2

dede

hehe ... the thing under your name ("ring my banana phone") sounds kinky.

and I agree about weed. Question: what is the punishment for possession of marijuana in England?

Nothing at all really, it gets confiscated and at worse you could spend a night in the cells but thats doubtfull.

Reply 45

President_Ben

15

dede

Question: what is the punishment for possession of marijuana in England?

Depends on quantity.

Enough to supply - very bad.

Only enough to be judged as personal consumption - currently, none afaik.

But cannabis may soon (if not already has been) set to be reclassified as a B class drug (again). So it could soon be very bad.

Reply 46

34253

2

Cancel what i said i just found this http://www.homeoffice.gov.uk/drugs/drugs-law/Class-a-b-c/

2 years or an unlimited fine for possesion or 14 years for dealing, i know that this would never happen but that is crazy.

Reply 47

President_Ben

15

Elipsis

Cancel what i said i just found this http://www.homeoffice.gov.uk/drugs/drugs-law/Class-a-b-c/

2 years or an unlimited fine for possesion or 14 years for dealing, i know that this would never happen but that is crazy.

It doesn't distinguish between quantities of possession, which is nice and vague of them :rolleyes:

Reply 48

they are always vaugue lol! i dont agree about weed leading onto harder drugs tho... because it totally depends on the person!

Reply 49

LostRiot

14

The government says....

Reclassification means the Government acknowledge that cannabis is not as harmful as other Class B substances like Speed. But the supply and possession of cannabis is still illegal. Penalties for supplying stay the same (with a maximum of 14 years). The maximum prison sentence for possession has been reduced from five years to two. Fines and other non-custodial sentences like compulsory community service will still apply.

For those over 18, most offences of cannabis possession are likely to result in a warning on the street and confiscation of the drug. But you could be arrested if you smoke in a public place, near a place where there are children e.g a school, or where public order is at risk. Those who repeatedly commit offences will be arrested and will be prosecuted.

If you are under 18, and it's your first offence of cannabis possession you will normally be arrested, taken to the police station and given a warning or a reprimand.

If it's not your first offence, you will be given either a final warning or you will be charged. If you have been given a warning in the past and you get caught again you'll most likely be charged. When you get a warning you are referred to the local Youth Offending team (YOT).

Jut thought its important everyone knows what the law actually means.

Reply 50

always + forever

1

Are you still going to mention this to your bf? If so, my advice would be NOT to go down the 'drugs are stupid and only idiots to them' as (even if this is what you think) you're bf's going to be immensely hostile to that reasoning. (see this happen so many times) He is obvivously experienced, and knows what he's doing, and thus your argument has to be more like 'I'm worried about you - doing coke this often has to be bad for you': he's not going to want to engage in a moral conversation about his drug use, and don't make it one, otherwise you'll get no-where. :biggrin:

Reply 51

LostRiot

14

Mylla

thus your argument has to be more like 'I'm worried about you - doing coke this often has to be bad for you': he's not going to want to engage in a moral conversation about his drug use, and don't make it one, otherwise you'll get no-where. :biggrin:

yeah definatley, geting in moral debates with people who takes hard drugs doesn't work, theres 2 cards they can play 1. its more dangerous to drive in a car than take coke, 2. You havn't taken it, if you did you'd know how great it is, - and you really don't want to get into that one.

Reply 52

As above, don't go that route. I used to do both coke and e regularly. I can assure you his world is based around the use of these. ie. most of his friends enjoy it too, he won't take kindly to you ripping it apart in one swift movement. At the end of the day not all drug users are scum, i'm at uni, socialising, working and can easily go out clean. Your dude may be different, but yeh, i'd tell you to convince him to cut down.. hopefully sooner or later he may cut it out completely or near enough!

Reply 53

TKR

15

"im very anti drugs"

well thats a reasoned and logical argument if ever i saw one

Reply 54

Anonymous

As above, don't go that route. I used to do both coke and e regularly. I can assure you his world is based around the use of these. ie. most of his friends enjoy it too, he won't take kindly to you ripping it apart in one swift movement. At the end of the day not all drug users are scum, i'm at uni, socialising, working and can easily go out clean. Your dude may be different, but yeh, i'd tell you to convince him to cut down.. hopefully sooner or later he may cut it out completely or near enough!

see he's doing really well in uni, he did really well in college when he was on it... its not as if i can say its gonna ruin his life if he's doing so well... i might just tell him im worried about him... not ask him to stop... just say like "im worried incase something happens to u" and see what he says

Reply 55

But it *can* ruin lives.. say that, and play it from there, if it's not bothering your relationship it should be okay, it's purely for his health!

Reply 56

Anonymous

But it *can* ruin lives.. say that, and play it from there, if it's not bothering your relationship it should be okay, it's purely for his health!

see but in the same breath i cud go "dont ever leave the house coz u cud die!"

Reply 57

erk

14

Precisely. But I, we, he chooses to take drugs and thus you're choosing to potentially endanger your life, personally i think alot of it is to do with self-control, but hey. anyway, i hope the situation will be cool. :smile:

Reply 58

Phonicsdude

19

Anonymous

my boyfriend does coke... i dont do it and dont intend to coz im very antil drugs!

can anyone tell me what it does etc coz i have no idea what he's on about when he says he's taking it...

should i be worried?

I read the first half a dozen responses and they were pretty painful.
So I skipped the rest.

I havn't done cocaine and would never do it. That is through personal choice. I have friends who do cocaine on an infrequent basis.
I think anyone who does it, does so because they are slightly reckless.
It is more addictive than other drugs that give you a similar type of high.
It lasts for less long (30-40 minutes!)
It is relatively expensive.
You snort it.

My advice would be to be around him when he is taking cocaine. If it turns him into a real d*ck (in my experience it doesnt turn people into a monster) then tell him it's you or the drug.
If you dont mind him wilst he is on cocaine, then just be there to moderate his use. 5 or 6 lines a month max, say.
As soon as the drug starts to affect him when he is not actually on the drug's high (i.e. in his everyday life) then that is when you need to give him an ultimatum.
Renenberm whilst he is a boyfriend, you are not married and you are not siblings. You can just leave if it gets too much. If he is stupid enough to choose a drug over you, then your relationship could never last.

If it never affects his life and he can moderate his use and is just a happy junkie whilst on the drug then it is probably worth staying with him.

Do ask him though why he takes it and not other drugs (ecstasy say...that is both cheaper and last longer...although it does have an associated comedown..!).

Good luck whatever.

Reply 59

mangomaz

14

Hmm this is a very tough one. Do you know how often he does it?

I dont agree with the people who say to give him an ultinatum of 'me or drugs' because theres not a whole lot of reason to if the drugs arent affecting him or the relationship negatively. From what you say (he did really well in college etc) he seems to have a good head on his shoulders. I have quite a few friends who use class A drugs and they know what they're doing, the risks involved and have a great time doing it. Like other people said, the main problem with coke is its addictive properties. If the addiction is under control then dont just rashly end the relationship.

DEFINITELY talk to him about it though, its obviously something that is quite an important issue to you. If anything, he will give you peace of mind that he knows what hes doing. I would get worried however if he responded to your talking to him (as long as you dont approach it in an aggressive or negative way) by refusing to talk about how often he does it, how much hes spending and whether he knows the risks involved. He should feel comfortable enough and open enough with you to tell you things like that.

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