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People being judgemental

I notice right, that when I dress up, I often get freebies/certain things on discount whereas if I look like I just walked out of class/gym, I certainly don't get this treatment.

Instead I get asked at the doors of *certain* shopping places for my bag to be checked, hmm. Big difference too, considering I look the same in the face and everthing, just the clothing is not the same. I also notice that when I don't dress up, people are more hostile to me, like I'm some kind of theif, and they always charge me the full price of anything (or worse, rip me off), even though I may be clearly giving signs I can't afford a particular item.

Do you think that this huge difference is something to be concerned about in today's society, I mean don't just take my meek example, I'm sure there are others far worse than mine lol :biggrin:

Anyway keep this nice peoples, am sorta doing a sociological research thing here :cool:

Reply 1

President_Ben

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The stunning realisation that first impressions make a difference? That clothing is an expression of the person wearing the clothes forms a part of this?

Sociology strikes again with another amazing revelation :rolleyes:

Reply 2

President_Ben

The stunning realisation that first impressions make a difference? That clothing is an expression of the person wearing the clothes forms a part of this?

Sociology strikes again with another amazing revelation :rolleyes:

I think it shouldn't matter what someone wears when they are just buying groceries though :rolleyes:

Or just general stuff, like things for car or garage. That's kinda the experience I was talking about...

Reply 3

President_Ben

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Anonymous

I think it shouldn't matter what someone wears when they are just buying groceries though :rolleyes:

Or just general stuff, like things for car or garage. That's kinda the experience I was talking about...

Another amazing insight:

People form stereotypes as they may act in a way that is rationalising and reductionist rather than rational. This is blinding stuff sociology comes up with - blinding!

I don't think skin colour or gender should come into it but all often, it does.

Reply 4

President_Ben

Another amazing insight:

People form stereotypes as they may act in a way that is rationalising and reductionist rather than rational. This is blinding stuff sociology comes up with - blinding!

I don't think skin colour or gender should come into it but all often, it does.

Yep, that would be true. Have had plenty of experience in that too, but this thread isn't about that so I'll keep to the subject matter :smile:

Firstly, you don't need to be so harsh and judgemental, get a grip! This is an internet forum. Secondly, I've had enough of BS happen to me today to take extra from you.

But hey you seem to be a pretty ok person for the most part and you're helpful so I'll leave it at that.

So do you think it's interesting that the shift in prejudice has now turned to seeking 'poorer' groups to put down? It's what I've noticed lately everywhere, on TV, in everyday society, etc.

P.S. I appreciate your insight on the reductionist theory, I expect you are the type to excell at university. But I could be wrong, don't wanna become judgemental myself lol.

Reply 5

fundamentally

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Anonymous

if I look like I just walked out of class/gym, I certainly don't get this treatment.

Instead I get asked at the doors of *certain* shopping places for my bag to be checked, hmm.

Well, if you look like a slag or a chav, they are going to check your bags.

Reply 6

Ferrus

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I've noticed people, even my lecturers at uni will treat me very differently depending on wheter or not I have a beard at the time.

Reply 7

El Scotto

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Anonymous

I notice right, that when I dress up, I often get freebies/certain things on discount whereas if I look like I just walked out of class/gym, I certainly don't get this treatment.

Instead I get asked at the doors of *certain* shopping places for my bag to be checked, hmm. Big difference too, considering I look the same in the face and everthing, just the clothing is not the same. I also notice that when I don't dress up, people are more hostile to me, like I'm some kind of theif, and they always charge me the full price of anything (or worse, rip me off), even though I may be clearly giving signs I can't afford a particular item.

Do you think that this huge difference is something to be concerned about in today's society, I mean don't just take my meek example, I'm sure there are others far worse than mine lol :biggrin:

Anyway keep this nice peoples, am sorta doing a sociological research thing here :cool:

Its just the way things are.

Impressions are everthing.

If you look like a student, you'll get treated like a student.

If you look business, you'll get treated business.

Though If anyone ever tried checking my bags anywhere, I'd totally kick off at them and leave, I'd think theres other places more worthy of my money.

I'd probably even write a letter of complaint too.

Think you should stand up for yourself more and stop looking like a shoplifter :wink:

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ferrus

I've noticed people, even my lecturers at uni will treat me very differently depending on wheter or not I have a beard at the time.

The impression is, people with beards have something to hide.
Theres a saying, never trust a man with a beard unless its santa.
Its also lazy and unkempt.

Reply 8

Ferrus

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El Scotto

The impression is, people with beards have something to hide.
Theres a saying, never trust a man with a beard unless its santa.
Its also lazy and unkempt.

Yes I know, I have nothing to hide, but the indolence it shows is spot on.

Reply 9

El Scotto

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ferrus

Yes I know, I have nothing to hide, but the indolence it shows is spot on.

I hate spending time shaving myself.

I semi consider growing it and immacing it or something So I dont have to shave for a bit!

Reply 10

Ferrus

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El Scotto

I hate spending time shaving myself.

I semi consider growing it and immacing it or something So I dont have to shave for a bit!

As I say I just let it grow as nature intended... untill I decide I need to shave for a specific reason.

Reply 11

Crimson Black

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ferrus

As I say I just let it grow as nature intended... untill I decide I need to shave for a specific reason.

Which would probably be the Labour government passing the Shaving On Tuesdays Act 2006, which would bring into effect a mandatory 'tuesdayal' shave. It would be repealed by the Lords, arguing that freedom of expression was on the line, but it would still come into effect one year later. The Shaving on Tuesdays Act 2006 would allow unwarranted searches of a person's beard believed in harbouring WMDs. They will at least have more chance of finding them in our beards than in Iraq.

Reply 12

President_Ben

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Anonymous

So do you think it's interesting that the shift in prejudice has now turned to seeking 'poorer' groups to put down? It's what I've noticed lately everywhere, on TV, in everyday society, etc

Has it shifted? :confused:

I thought they have always had the short straw...

Reply 13

OppressedMass

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I dont know anyone who gets discounts for being pretty...

Reply 14

Mata

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OppressedMass

I dont know anyone who gets discounts for being pretty...

Depends what sort of shop you go into. If its one where they're allowed to fiddle the price a little (i.e. if they think you'd buy it £20 cheaper then they'll knock off £20) then you can easily get a discount.

Also, you can get free or reduced entry to clubs etc. Its not even about being pretty, just decent-looking and wearing nice clothes, and smiling a lot. Dressing like a 'slut' doesn't work in my humble opinion, you have to look polished.

Reply 15

belle_27

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'Tis true, how you look changes people's opinion towards you. I wore this pretty wrap top with jeans to school one day and I found people were looking at me and smiling all day. Even people who I know dislike me smiled when I passed them. Whereas when I decide that I don't care how I look and go in wearing very baggy dark green trousers with a pinky/red top and a white strappy top underneath and look absolutely rubbish, people star at me like I'm absolute trash, just because I couldn't be bothered to look decent for a school day at my all girls school!!!!

Its the same in shops, I went into Esprit once, wearing a strippy pink top (not particularly nice looking one) and jeans, the looks I got from them were digusting. We're a really critical bunch of people over here.

Reply 16

President_Ben

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I tend to find dressing like this handsome chap:

http://www.transom.org/shows/photos/200210.vader1.240.jpg

Can cause quite a stir and reaction.

Reply 17

ApeXaviour

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OppressedMass

I dont know anyone who gets discounts for being pretty...

Agreed.. I've never heard this.

OP how do you dress casually? I mean do you look like a chav? Big loopy earings and a tracksuit? This may cause shop personel to be suspicious of your intentions.

When I used to work in a video rental shop it used to really grind my gears when pretty or well made up girls would come up and expect special treatment. Granted it wasn't all of them or nearly all of them but some just expected you to wait on the hand and foot. Anyone who came to me with this attitude I'd deliberately treat rudely. It was funny, initially they'd flirt a little and then when I'd act like a rock they'd give ya the dirtiest of dirty looks. If someone was polite to me, nomatter who they were I treated them with respect. Especially children, I found customers would often just barge infront of kids, so I'd ignore them and serve the kid. Their money is just as good as yours mate.

Reply 18

Segat1

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Stop being so judgemental of people in shops! You're making such a generalisation!

Reply 19

President_Ben

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How being pretty (and putting out) can lead to some rather big advantages:

http://www.croydonguardian.co.uk/news/localnews/display.var.668161.0.sex_scandal_at_lunar_house.php

Ape - I share your attitude and try to exercise it.

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